At least in the new pics of Jeese, they look less awkward than usual. Maybe they are getting used to it. Interesting that these pics are said to be after a "night of passion," but they still don't have any chemistry. If you want to look a pic after a night of passion, I think this might better fit the bill.
June Carter and Jack Twist. What a lovely couple. Their dreams roles have come and gone and the lights have gone out. Why do you all give a shit? No one else does.
for the people who read rags, the problem with Reeke is that it's nothing scandalous. there's nothing more boring than seeing two perfectly healthy couple doing their daily stuff. i mean, who cares? bring us wife cheater, home-wrecker, super age-different boy-toy... at least they should get some juicy bits like one of their parents don't approve of this relationship. Or have Reese compare her sex life with jake and ryan etc.
Now that's what I call a morning after pic - Jake looking like a studly peacock, strutting with his hands in his pockets and that satisfied smirk on his face, (I'd forgotten how sexy he looks in this pic!) and eyes hidden behind dark glasses, and Austin looking like he was up all night - tired, but satisfied, both looking disheveled and like they haven't had a wink of sleep, t-shirt thrown on inside out, and bed-head hair all over the place! Austin looks like he was hit by a hurricane. Going out for some quick sustenance before a second go-round? ;)
LOL - Guisi-poo, I thought of that after I posted - a third, or fourth! ;) Also, in a better world, they'd be able to walk arm-in-arm, kiss and enjoy being together afterwards.
Meh. A few days back I would have said "what fresh hell is this" but I expect to see new goodies every other day now. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could associate this sudden avalanche of Jeese with the very sweet New York reportage from Ted. Don't PR have any idea of subtle?
Yep NETB, in a better world - which I'm afraid J&R have set back by another few decades.
I'm copying this over from last night. I didn't post this to be a trouble-maker. I really want to participate on this blog but I also want to know what we're doing.
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Here's a question. Why are we wasting so much time talking about Jake and Reese when we admonish other people who post here that there are far worthier blogs for them to post about...Jake and Reese?
Can nobody see the odd in that? Or maybe the hypocrisy? No?
Or is it that we only like to rag on and insult Jake and Reese here?
Liz, the invitation you mention was directed at those who believe Jake and Reese are a real couple and who expressed distress and/or anger at OMG posters who think otherwise. There are indeed blogs and forums out there which are pro-Jeese and supportive of this "relationship". I don't know if this is your case but if the hat fits, you will certainly feel happier and more at home over there.
No, frenchy, I never said I was pro Reese/Jake. I just don't find the bashing and negativity surrounding them on this blog to be productive or useful in any way.
For the time being it is what it is. We can sit around and wring our hands about it or we can remove the Reese portion from the equation altogether and focus on upcoming Jake projects, upcoming Austin projects and the like.
I'd like to be able to discuss these things without feeling like I've entered into an all-girls 6th grade classroom.
I don't particularly like talking about Reeke, but when the pictures presented of Jake are of Reeke, it leaves us nothing else to talk about. Have not checked this AM but I loooked around a few general gossip spots last night. Consensus still seems to be primarily 1. boring or 2. fake.
Liz, what say we compromise, eh? Some of us don't want to be under the watchful eye of the censor, either. This blog is a lot better and even-handed than most of the others, but yet won't resort to idolatry. SpecialK and Wicked make a point of being respectful first. A poking fun at folly never hurt anyone.
Liz, your question is a good one. My response is that we have to deal with reality and what we're presented with, which is Jeese. I don't see how we can ignore that. It's being rammed down our throats. We can only watch and say what we believe to be true about it, hopefully in a respectful manner. I hope we are trying to talk about upcoming projects for both Jake and Austin, but right now the daily news is Jeese. I am looking forward to Austin's upcoming appearance on FNL and I know others are as well. I feel sure that once Austin is on FNL we will be talking about that. It will be nice to have some current discussion about Austy.
We can only watch and say what we believe to be true about it, hopefully in a respectful manner.
I appreciate that, wicked. But over the days and with more pictures surfacing the chatter here has gone from "Oh look, a set up photo op" to something bordering on pettiness and mean-spiritedness.
I disagree with your assessment that Jake/Reese are being "jammed down our throats". It's only so if you seek out those places that are trying to do that. Certainly posting pics of the two of them together --- such as you have at the top of today's blog post for instance --- only adds to the pettiness and vitriol.
I've witnessed WFT devolve into something totally unrecognizable lately. I just don't want to see that happen here when I think you have the best of intentions and a slightly higher caliber of intelligent and thoughtful posters.
I tottally agree ondine. The forum/blog that I usually comment on about Jake has my registered name and mods (which is fine) but holy cow if you think that Jake and reese are anything other than true romantic love. Any post that questions it is countered with a post by another member who practically pimps for the Jeese, and who it seems has taken over the whole thread. Hardly anyone posts there anymore because of the sugar-saccharine overload.
But here we can vent and question and discuss and think and exchange viewpoints and agree and disagree, all openly and without recrimination, as it were. And surprisingly, it has stayed polite and fun (many thanks to the OMG blog owners/mods).
This place has been a true lifesaver for me. Again, thank you Mods, and the other regular and irregular posters, you've been great.
Liz, I am curious to know your answer to this- what would you have us do in response to Jeese? Should we ignore it and not post pics of them? I honestly want to know. I would like to know what others think about it too. For me, I want to post what is currently going on with both Jake and Austin. Right now, like it or not, what's going on with Jake is Jeese. That's why we post those pics. I feel like we would be trying to ignore reality if we didn't post them. People will have their individual responses to the fact that Jake is out with Reese. If you think their responses are petty and vitriolic, offer another viewpoint.
also the third one in the equation -Austin- is in ....who knows where he is now. In Uruguay? in Buenos Aires, Argentina? or who knows.
BTW, Buenos Aires is a gay friendly city (http://www.thegayguide.com.ar/) And this weekend there's the "Gallery G" expo & shopping for the gay community, a combination of art, culture and products of all kinds, and an auditorium where shorts and movies are presented (http://www.galleryg.com.ar/).
I can certainly imagine Austin visiting there :) And no wonder Jake has that sad look on his face lately.
wicked at 3:17, unfortunately right now, what's going on with Jake and Austin is Jeese. This blog is awesome as it is. I want to say thank you and keep up the great job.
Liz, I am curious to know your answer to this- what would you have us do in response to Jeese? Should we ignore it and not post pics of them? I honestly want to know.
From the beginning I was always under the impression that Jake was bisexual. At the moment it appears that maybe he's taking a break from boys. Okay whatever. But as I said before, the Reese thing is what it is.
To offer another viewpoint on Jake and Reese, if that's what you were referring to, would only be met with suspicion and scorn. At which point I'd be told there are many other blogs and sites I can visit to bask in the Jake hetero-ness to my heart's content. When it's not that at all.
IF he's bisexual shouldn't we respect the choice of the moment he's made? Sure it's not what we would LIKE to see, but it's his choice. Sure we don't have to like it, but again his choice.
I don't find tearing him and Reese down will suddenly make Austin pop back on the scene.
And to play devil's advocate for a minute - All those fans who are basking in Jeese at the moment have to wade through a lot of nasty shit themselves. That's if they're brave enough to look at comments on pap picture sites. Hell, innuendo is rampant just on the captioning of a lot of those Jeese photos such as on X17, TMZ and Flynet. Who does that help? Jake? Reese? Austin? Will any of those comments make Jake and Austin come out anytime soon? If anything it will push them further back since people have such strong reactions to anything Jake does. Or says.
Well, Dany just stated she is shutting down. The trolls will be happy but I cant see why. At least those of us who think Jake is gay were largely contained to 2 websites, 3 if you count DC. Seems to me that would have been easier for them to manage, but oh well. Now they will have to visit all the sites to argue with the jake is gay commenters.
Re the Reese issues, again I will say that the reality is that is what is going on now. While Jake may have 3 movies lined up, that's all they are. Lined up. Zodiac got pushed back how many times. Who knows when we will actually see the films theatrical release so not much else to talk about until then.
In the past month of posts which is almost as long as this whole thing started up. We have only posed pictures with Reese in them 5 times.
And four of them have been comparing them to Jake with Austin, or to themselves when they were not "dating", and the other time with them both when they we "not officially together"
I really don't think we have been over the top with the Jeese stuff. I think many times we are just comparing it to a relationship that we think is the real deal.
It is hard and we have had a barrage of Jeese thrown out there. But like Wicked said, at the moment we have to deal with it.
And the 25 other days? We have been looking at Jake and Austin pics for the most part.
And to play devil's advocate for a minute - All those fans who are basking in Jeese at the moment have to wade through a lot of nasty shit themselves. That's if they're brave enough to look at comments on pap picture sites. Hell, innuendo is rampant just on the captioning of a lot of those Jeese photos such as on X17, TMZ and Flynet.
I think I've read just the same thing before - on the Gyllenspoon blog. You don't happen to be the one running it?
It's cool if you are, but that doesn't mean we will appreciate you spreading the message of your blog here.
Fact is OMG and WFT fans hardly ever go other jake blogs to try to convince people, while pro Reese fans/trolls spend more time in sites dedicated to J&A... i do find Liz's "carrot and stick" approach kind of funny though.
I think it is important to talk about Jeese, and it is what is going on right now, so why should we all pretend it is not happening. If nothing else, I think it is good for people to express that they're not buying it, and on a daily basis if need be. Why should this pr campaign get a free ride. I for one believe pr looks at sites like this.
I think it is fine when you post pictures of Jeese and compare them to J&A or to make other points I find myself spending time comparing pictures anyway, like the Jeese "morning" pictures and the J&A behead pictures.
Cdoggray5 I really liked your comments on the previous post. And (((me))), good to see you posting.
If WFT closes (which will be an incredible shame) it follows Jakewatch in being two of the main Jake fanblogs closing down in the wake of Reeke.
Now, this may be planned, but I can't see how alienating large sections of your fans can do anyone any good. I don't think its doing Reese'e rep much good either.
At the moment I feel sorry for both Jake and Reese. I think they are being very badly advised about all this. Its all just very, very sad.
Good point 4:12. Personally I have never posted a comment anywhere except WFT or OMG, and it took me over a year of reading WFT to do so. Shy, I guess. The comments on the general gossip sites are beyond nasty and painful to read, but I do find myself reading them. The whole idea of the web and blogs is that it allows anyone and anything to be said, and for people of like interests to find each other. Any censorship ultimately ruins that, so as much as I dont like the comments, I respect people's right to say them.
ITA, Destiny. I'll admit that I may be wrong, but I'm just not buying Jeese. If it is a PR campaign, then I want J&R's PR to know that I'm not biting. If it's real, then why would J&R care what I think one way or the other?
You know, I was thinking the same thing - like any marketing scheme, it's better for PR to know that we are not buying it, a focus group, if you will. If it is a real relationship, I'm happy to be proven wrong and wish them well, but there's just something that doesn't ring true to me.
Marie, thanks for the info about Buenos Aires too. :)
Destiny, I totally agree with your first paragraph. We can't pretend Reeke is not happening, but I'm not going to pretend I believe it's a real relationship when I don't.
I was thinking today that maybe one of the main reasons I am having such a hard time with the bearding is the person that Jake has chosen to do it with. I personally would not find it quite so sickening (although would still disagree with it) if his 'girlfriend' was someone who's a bit more likeable. I think Reese comes across as very cold and controlling and I don't think there is any way she is going to come out of this whole thing looking like a fool (well, no more than she already has with all the flinging herself about) and I have no idea how Jake is going to get him self out of this mess. I really think he has made a very bad decision.
h.. I think that Reese may be as much of a 'victim' of all this as Jake. You get the impression of a woman with very few (if any) real friends, who is surrounded by sychophants who will not tell her that she's making an idiot of herself for fear of losing their position. She seems like someone who doesn't have anyone to tell her what a twit she's making of herself, and someone who doesn't have the confidence to stand up to her handlers and tell them that she doesn't want to go through with this (wasn't there an article about the Rendition press interview when she didn't seem to have the confidence to ask for the air conditioning to be turned down even though she was freezing).
Maybe I'm being too kind to both of them, I don't know.
You believe that Jake is Bisexual and therefore are able to embrace Jake with Reese. You are free to post your thoughts, impressions and kudos to your heart's content on OMG. Squee with girlish delight if you are so inclined. Your posts won't be deleted. That's the nature of this blog.
But, understand this - many folks here fall on the Jake is Gay side, and are also free to express themselves concerning what we see as a horrific and embarrassing attempt at bearding.
In addition, the right to comment, disagree and challenge your posts also stands - just as yours to do likewise with ours. It's called debate where I'm from, and I for one am very appreciative of the opportunity OMG offers to vent my views, and read others whether they sidle up to mine or not.
As long as the debate remains neighborly, trollish or egotistic behavior no where to be seen, it can only help a fandom currently in a serious crisis.
If this arrangement is not to your liking, perhaps Oh My Godot is not where you should be spending your precious time.
It is all about selling a product. Jeese is a product. I don't think it's neither new or improved of the old versions of each of them.
It is like New Coke, oh yeah they thought everyone would love it, and the projections said it would be a hit. But despite all the hype and no one ever bought it, so much so they went back to the original and you can never find New Coke again.
Are you listening 360? We don't drink the New Coke and we don't buy the Jeese either. No matter how flashy you try to sell it. Or how much your Q number calculations would say we would love them.
Jeez. Wasn't trying to incite or inflame. Was sort of responding to what Wicked had asked. And illustrating, badly I presume, that an opposing viewpoint - not even that - a request to treat these people with respect was met with...well see below...
But I see I've been met with scorn and suspicion in my previous posts since evidently it doesn't toe the party line of thinking. That's cool I guess. Goes along with all the other close-minded Jeese blogs.
"Ok, maybe not easy. But today's gay high schoolers are discovering that declaring their homosexuality - and doing it at younger and younger ages - brings little of the stigma and complications that earlier generations faced."
Well liz, I think I have said it before, but here again. I think Jake is probably bi. I would have absolutely nothing against Jeese, except the fact I am not a big fan of hers and I think he is 100 times hotter nad better looking than her, which is my problem not his. IF I had a history and pictures showing me he is obvioulsy in love with her. But, from what I see and hear, he looks like having a relationship not of the passionate kind with her. Which makes me worried for him. And opens up a can of worms of speculations about what is really going on with them, which I think it is legitimate for us to question and talk about. If you are sure he is bi and in love with Reese now, move to another blog seriously or bring forward your reasons for being so confident that is the case.
I don't see how many of you say that Jake and Reese are not in a relationship. I think they are in a very real one. If they weren't, they wouldn't be spending time together. But before anyone jumps up to disagree/agree, maybe I ought to define what kind of relationship, as there are many types to be found in all of our lives, right? Family, work, love, sexual, friend, acquaintance, the list could go on forever.
My take is that J/R are friends and possibly business partners (time will tell if they are indeed collaborating on a film/theatre project). And there's nothing wrong with that. The affection displayed in the Rome and LAX pictures is, to me, representative of a close, dear friendship. I think that we have to remember that J/R themselves and their agents have never publicly stated nor shown us anything about a romance between them -- only the gossips have implied that it exists.
And so it goes, the readers believe, the bearding accusations fly. When all it really adds up to is what? Maybe just two good friends who are getting applauded and attacked at the same time because of misinterpreted projections of strangers, i.e. their fans.
It's just a thought. I mean, maybe we ought to give J/R some leeway: yes, it's a relationship, a friendship.
As a TB who's been reflecting a lot today about what's become of places like WFT, I think with all due respect there was one good point in what Liz said. Wicked's rebuttal about facing reality duly noted, as well as what Special said on the limited number of main posts mentioning Reese nothwithstanding...
IMO it's not about wanting to ignore reality, but admitting it's been well established by now here and at the sites TBs care about that many think Reeke are fake and/or boring, and asking ourselves how many times we can say the same thing before it becomes needlessly repetitive and possibly affect the health of discussion. Not to mention the sanity of those who come in good faith because they love J&A and hope for discussion not just in main posts but in the comments to be more J&A focused.
Criticizing Reeke every time a new picture surfaces is still the same Reeke talk, y'know? This is a sham/silly/I hate it ad nauseum. While it may still be as emotionally true as the first time we saw Reeke, it can and does get dull to read over and over and can tonally affect discussion with dwelling on the negative. In addition we're in a way still giving PR what they want, by diverting attention from J&A with Reeke or whatever new obstacle they throw in our way. I kind of equate it to them throwing over our eyes a thin veil with an image painted on the inside. We can be distracted endlessly by the painted picture or acknowledge its fakeness and move on, focusing the majority of our attention looking through it to what's real beyond.
Therefore, I think it comes down to what we want our J&A community to be. We can let it be directed by the current shenanigans of the day, or insist it be an oasis where you can acknowledge whatever PR machinations are going on while still keeping it in its place relative to what we're all really here for. I think Wicked and Special already do a great job of this for the most part. I think the amount of Reeke being thrown out there is forcing all TBs to readjust in a way that we haven't had to before and we're all still trying to find a balance that will satisfy everyone while not veering into censorship.
Therefore, I think an important distinction should be made between trolls who come to stir up shit and those who may just be frustrated with so much of fandom talk being so Reeke centric lately. I can sympathize and I'm a pretty patient person, willing to wade through troll posts to get to the meat. I've no interest in the teenybopper sites and like other J&A supporters I come here because it's an oasis from the same old heterocentric paradigm. So to me, it's not about preventing people from commenting, it's about noticing how many comments per thread at pro-J&A sites are dominated by talk of Jake and Reese (even critical ones) and not Jake and Austin and asking ourselves if we can (and want to) do better.
In addition we're in a way still giving PR what they want, by diverting attention from J&A with Reeke or whatever new obstacle they throw in our way
I am not sure pointing out how Jake and Reese look fake and a bearding to protect J&A accomplishes what you mention above
So to me, it's not about preventing people from commenting, it's about noticing how many comments per thread at pro-J&A sites are dominated by talk of Jake and Reese (even critical ones) and not Jake and Austin and asking ourselves if we can (and want to) do better
Oh sure we can always imporve... why don't you start by posting something about J&A you would like to discuss? With all respect I am kinfd of tired of people being specatatorsa and only coming into the discussion to say they don't like what they read. Take the initiative, be first, I am sort of short of ideas at the moment...
This is a personal adaptation of one of Susan Sarandon's lines in Moonlight Mile:
"You find your home, and it may not be what you thought - you know; colour's off (???), style's wrong (is it? the music's great though!)... but there it is anyway and to hell with you if you can't take a joke (ITA). You find your home. Ben's mine."(Excuse me but I'll stick with OMG.)"
I would just like to thank Liz for triggering a cogent discussion. Wow, suddenly OMG comments are so interesting to read! I feel like home once again :) And there you go - I just de-lurked.
My take is that J/R are friends and possibly business partners (time will tell if they are indeed collaborating on a film/theatre project).
Mally I had that thought, maybe you are right. It would sure explain things better than J&R being in a romantic relationship, including some of the single-for-the-ladies and I-wont-comment-on-something-ai-cannot-give-an-honest-answer comments
Thanks NETB! Frenchy: :) :) Special K: IMO, the OMG main posts are pretty much balanced! Please don't sweat about it. Keep up the good work. And no, why would I post with a different name? I don't gent it.
I really appreciated everyone's posts about what we want to do here. Spesh and I do understand that many do not want to talk about Jeese, and there are other topics to discuss. I do have to echo Zero's comment-
why don't you start by posting something about J&A you would like to discuss?
If the current discussion is not to your liking, bring something else up! I have no problem being OT and I think most here are likewise okay with it. Liz, I appreciate the fact that you brought this up so we could all talk about this. And tomorrow's post is not about Jeese. It was written by a very special guest poster who is near and dear to my heart!
Wow, I just read the article Spesh linked called "Easy Out." It made me happy for and jealous of kids today. When I was in college, some friends of mine were tabling for the campus gay social organization. A guy and his friends came up the table. The guy quickly drank a bottle of chocolate milk and threw up all over the table and my friends! At least the college disciplined him for it. It makes me glad to think things like that are much less likely to happen now.
While it might not be reflected in the comments. You step back at look at it. OMG is trying its best to be evenly balanced.
Special, Wicked and yourself are doing an awesome job and I see no need to justify anything you girls have accomplished so far.
Jeese is still young and I think it was quite normal to see the recent flood of comments on this subject.
However, if you think we're straying from the blog's mission I hope you won't hesitate to say so. :) By the way, my "we" refers to those (myself included) who posted about Jeese.
Now on a very shallow note, I just wanted to say that I contacted Amazon.ca about the DVDs I never received and they're going to reship the whole order totally free of charge!
Aw shit. Now I made you guys feel bad and I feel bad. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything at all. My intention was not to make anyone feel like they had to justify anything as this was more a general trend in the comments of fandom I was trying to identify (perhaps badly) and not something I feel any one person or site is responsible for.
Still I owe you a response, zero. Regarding what you asked, well in general how about more of what J&A are doing right rather than doing wrong?
If we agree Reeke is a fauxmance, rather than say oh how staged Reese's smile looks again or oh how bored Jake looks again, we can try to relate it back to J&A. We believe J&A are still going strong as a couple... Did they possibly come up with this scheme together with their PR? Yes? No? Do we think it's panning out the way they'd hoped? For how long and for what purpose? We don't think Jake's alone in the Jake and Austin relationship do we? Where do we think Austin is (besides Uruguay) in all this?
What do we think Jake and Austin's priorities are right now as a couple? Assuming they stay in the closet and or continue to follow PR's direction, what do they have to look forward to? These are questions I ask with love of J&A, though I don't think support all the decisions they make it's probably a learning process for them. I try not to judge and that means considering the good of a situation as well as the bad. Even if it's just a perceived good I try to look at everything from Jake and Austin's perspective together as a couple.
I know that was all a bit stream of consciousness, but said in hopes it showing you where I'm coming from a little bit more. I can get pretty emotional when I think of J&A and so I try and focus on the positive. I do still consider OMG the best J&A community for the level of intelligence of its posters so I hope that's not in question. Even when people disagree the discourse is still respectful, and as we know on the internet that requires a lot more work and maturity from the top on down. Special and Wicked do a great job (as the latest articles Special posted are an example of, thanks :) ).
I also wanted to add the posts featuring Austin have been some of my favorites.
Is this what Wicked or Special K (I can't remember, sorry!) was talking about, that the E online Ted column comes out early? This is Monday's edition (nothing's in it about A/J/R, though).
I forgot to say "duck duck goose" is very funny. And I've been thinking about the goose a lot today, particularly how in that podcast he joked about being locked in his room because he was doing penance, and how they were probably meeting up in NY a lot, and wondering about what they've had to do or will have to do to be together after Ted.
I am thoroughly sick of the Jeese and this is the only Jake related site I go to so I do think we talk about them way too much.
I think some people are just hoping that Jake is going to realise this isn't worth it and 'break up' with Reese sometime in the next few weeks and go back to the Jake we all love.
But what if he doesn't? What if this is a long term plan? Over a year? Over several years? That's a real possibility.
Jake is about to film a movie and he's signed on for another movie. Austin is filming a movie and about to start showing in a tv guest spot. Let's talk more about that.
I'm not saying bury our heads in the sand. Just that Reeke is possibly the most boring story out there and doesn't deserve this kind of attention, showmance or romance.
It's always difficult between Jaustin pictures. I don't see this as very different from the other times we have waited, only with the daily dose of Reeke pictures the waiting is more painful. I'm sure things will get better once we get news about Austin and Jake's movie projects. And suprise info can also emerge (Austin's ring, NY sighting - they didn't happen that long ago).
I don't enjoy discussing Reeke but what can you do, when that is the topic that is being shoved down our throat. At least here you can be critical about it. I think that special and wicked have done a good job providing posts of the good old times, the boy's future projects as well as new Reeke pictures. It's no use pretending they don't exist at all.
Sorry, I also forgot to say how wonderfully creative Duck Duck Goose was! The title, the pictures, someone (the hen) ducking because they're ashamed, contrasted with a goose just being himself and proud to be seen with his friend (another cock lol!). In the DDG childhood game the Duck was benign, the Goose was the one you wanted to chase you. ;D
You tied the theme of the post, hell the blog! together very, very well. Thank you.
Anyone can hide behind Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteIf you really believe in what you are saying sign your name to it.
How? Click other and give yourself a name. What name? What ever you want to call yourself.
You should have included this pic in the post:
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I don’t know why women tend to hide when they are photographed with them ;)
At least in the new pics of Jeese, they look less awkward than usual. Maybe they are getting used to it. Interesting that these pics are said to be after a "night of passion," but they still don't have any chemistry. If you want to look a pic after a night of passion, I think this might better fit the bill.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the are following directions from the evelyn on speaker phone.
ReplyDeleteOk look at each other.
Now look at the camera and smile.
Now look happy.
June Carter and Jack Twist. What a lovely couple.
ReplyDeleteTheir dreams roles have come and gone and the lights have gone out.
Why do you all give a shit?
No one else does.
for the people who read rags, the problem with Reeke is that it's nothing scandalous. there's nothing more boring than seeing two perfectly healthy couple doing their daily stuff. i mean, who cares? bring us wife cheater, home-wrecker, super age-different boy-toy... at least they should get some juicy bits like one of their parents don't approve of this relationship. Or have Reese compare her sex life with jake and ryan etc.
ReplyDeleteBORING.
Oh Wicked, are you ever right -
ReplyDeleteNow that's what I call a morning after pic - Jake looking like a studly peacock, strutting with his hands in his pockets and that satisfied smirk on his face, (I'd forgotten how sexy he looks in this pic!) and eyes hidden behind dark glasses, and Austin looking like he was up all night - tired, but satisfied, both looking disheveled and like they haven't had a wink of sleep, t-shirt thrown on inside out, and bed-head hair all over the place! Austin looks like he was hit by a hurricane. Going out for some quick sustenance before a second go-round? ;)
I hear there is a sex video of Jake and Reese and Ryan is about to release it to get back at the bitchy wife.
ReplyDeleteNETB, at least 2 second go-round!
ReplyDeleteare young and full of hormones LOL. I love September coff...
LOL - Guisi-poo, I thought of that after I posted - a third, or fourth! ;) Also, in a better world, they'd be able to walk arm-in-arm, kiss and enjoy being together afterwards.
ReplyDeleteMeh. A few days back I would have said "what fresh hell is this" but I expect to see new goodies every other day now. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together could associate this sudden avalanche of Jeese with the very sweet New York reportage from Ted. Don't PR have any idea of subtle?
ReplyDeleteYep NETB, in a better world - which I'm afraid J&R have set back by another few decades.
I'm copying this over from last night. I didn't post this to be a trouble-maker. I really want to participate on this blog but I also want to know what we're doing.
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Here's a question. Why are we wasting so much time talking about Jake and Reese when we admonish other people who post here that there are far worthier blogs for them to post about...Jake and Reese?
Can nobody see the odd in that? Or maybe the hypocrisy? No?
Or is it that we only like to rag on and insult Jake and Reese here?
Can I get a bit of clarification before I go on?
Liz
ReplyDeleteI was hoping that your post is just a bad joke.
Read this, it might help:
http://ohmygodot.blogspot.com/2007/08/mission.html
Liz, the invitation you mention was directed at those who believe Jake and Reese are a real couple and who expressed distress and/or anger at OMG posters who think otherwise. There are indeed blogs and forums out there which are pro-Jeese and supportive of this "relationship". I don't know if this is your case but if the hat fits, you will certainly feel happier and more at home over there.
ReplyDeleteNo, frenchy, I never said I was pro Reese/Jake. I just don't find the bashing and negativity surrounding them on this blog to be productive or useful in any way.
ReplyDeleteFor the time being it is what it is. We can sit around and wring our hands about it or we can remove the Reese portion from the equation altogether and focus on upcoming Jake projects, upcoming Austin projects and the like.
I'd like to be able to discuss these things without feeling like I've entered into an all-girls 6th grade classroom.
I don't particularly like talking about Reeke, but when the pictures presented of Jake are of Reeke, it leaves us nothing else to talk about. Have not checked this AM but I loooked around a few general gossip spots last night. Consensus still seems to be primarily 1. boring or 2. fake.
ReplyDeleteLiz, what say we compromise, eh? Some of us don't want to be under the watchful eye of the censor, either. This blog is a lot better and even-handed than most of the others, but yet won't resort to idolatry. SpecialK and Wicked make a point of being respectful first. A poking fun at folly never hurt anyone.
ReplyDeleteLiz, your question is a good one. My response is that we have to deal with reality and what we're presented with, which is Jeese. I don't see how we can ignore that. It's being rammed down our throats. We can only watch and say what we believe to be true about it, hopefully in a respectful manner. I hope we are trying to talk about upcoming projects for both Jake and Austin, but right now the daily news is Jeese. I am looking forward to Austin's upcoming appearance on FNL and I know others are as well. I feel sure that once Austin is on FNL we will be talking about that. It will be nice to have some current discussion about Austy.
ReplyDeleteWe can only watch and say what we believe to be true about it, hopefully in a respectful manner.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate that, wicked. But over the days and with more pictures surfacing the chatter here has gone from "Oh look, a set up photo op" to something bordering on pettiness and mean-spiritedness.
I disagree with your assessment that Jake/Reese are being "jammed down our throats". It's only so if you seek out those places that are trying to do that. Certainly posting pics of the two of them together --- such as you have at the top of today's blog post for instance --- only adds to the pettiness and vitriol.
I've witnessed WFT devolve into something totally unrecognizable lately. I just don't want to see that happen here when I think you have the best of intentions and a slightly higher caliber of intelligent and thoughtful posters.
I tottally agree ondine. The forum/blog that I usually comment on about Jake has my registered name and mods (which is fine) but holy cow if you think that Jake and reese are anything other than true romantic love. Any post that questions it is countered with a post by another member who practically pimps for the Jeese, and who it seems has taken over the whole thread. Hardly anyone posts there anymore because of the sugar-saccharine overload.
ReplyDeleteBut here we can vent and question and discuss and think and exchange viewpoints and agree and disagree, all openly and without recrimination, as it were. And surprisingly, it has stayed polite and fun (many thanks to the OMG blog owners/mods).
This place has been a true lifesaver for me. Again, thank you Mods, and the other regular and irregular posters, you've been great.
slightly higher caliber of intelligent and thoughtful posters
ReplyDeleteIs that supposed to be an insult or a compliment? Just asking...
Liz, I am curious to know your answer to this- what would you have us do in response to Jeese? Should we ignore it and not post pics of them? I honestly want to know. I would like to know what others think about it too. For me, I want to post what is currently going on with both Jake and Austin. Right now, like it or not, what's going on with Jake is Jeese. That's why we post those pics. I feel like we would be trying to ignore reality if we didn't post them.
ReplyDeletePeople will have their individual responses to the fact that Jake is out with Reese. If you think their responses are petty and vitriolic, offer another viewpoint.
Reeke is:
ReplyDelete1. fake
2. boring
also the third one in the equation -Austin- is in ....who knows where he is now. In Uruguay? in Buenos Aires, Argentina? or who knows.
BTW, Buenos Aires is a gay friendly city (http://www.thegayguide.com.ar/)
And this weekend there's the "Gallery G" expo & shopping for the gay community, a combination of art, culture and products of all kinds, and an auditorium where shorts and movies are presented (http://www.galleryg.com.ar/).
I can certainly imagine Austin visiting there :)
And no wonder Jake has that sad look on his face lately.
wicked at 3:17,
ReplyDeleteunfortunately right now, what's going on with Jake and Austin is Jeese.
This blog is awesome as it is. I want to say thank you and keep up the great job.
Wicked
ReplyDeleteSince you asked ... :)
post only Jake / Austin pics + keep Jeese discussion, including links to pics.
Liz, I am curious to know your answer to this- what would you have us do in response to Jeese? Should we ignore it and not post pics of them? I honestly want to know.
ReplyDeleteFrom the beginning I was always under the impression that Jake was bisexual. At the moment it appears that maybe he's taking a break from boys. Okay whatever. But as I said before, the Reese thing is what it is.
To offer another viewpoint on Jake and Reese, if that's what you were referring to, would only be met with suspicion and scorn. At which point I'd be told there are many other blogs and sites I can visit to bask in the Jake hetero-ness to my heart's content. When it's not that at all.
IF he's bisexual shouldn't we respect the choice of the moment he's made? Sure it's not what we would LIKE to see, but it's his choice. Sure we don't have to like it, but again his choice.
I don't find tearing him and Reese down will suddenly make Austin pop back on the scene.
And to play devil's advocate for a minute - All those fans who are basking in Jeese at the moment have to wade through a lot of nasty shit themselves. That's if they're brave enough to look at comments on pap picture sites. Hell, innuendo is rampant just on the captioning of a lot of those Jeese photos such as on X17, TMZ and Flynet. Who does that help? Jake? Reese? Austin? Will any of those comments make Jake and Austin come out anytime soon? If anything it will push them further back since people have such strong reactions to anything Jake does. Or says.
Well, Dany just stated she is shutting down. The trolls will be happy but I cant see why. At least those of us who think Jake is gay were largely contained to 2 websites, 3 if you count DC. Seems to me that would have been easier for them to manage, but oh well. Now they will have to visit all the sites to argue with the jake is gay commenters.
ReplyDeleteRe the Reese issues, again I will say that the reality is that is what is going on now. While Jake may have 3 movies lined up, that's all they are. Lined up. Zodiac got pushed back how many times. Who knows when we will actually see the films theatrical release so not much else to talk about until then.
I went back and checked
ReplyDeleteIn the past month of posts which is almost as long as this whole thing started up. We have only posed pictures with Reese in them 5 times.
And four of them have been comparing them to Jake with Austin, or to themselves when they were not "dating", and the other time with them both when they we "not officially together"
I really don't think we have been over the top with the Jeese stuff. I think many times we are just comparing it to a relationship that we think is the real deal.
It is hard and we have had a barrage of Jeese thrown out there. But like Wicked said, at the moment we have to deal with it.
And the 25 other days? We have been looking at Jake and Austin pics for the most part.
Well, Dany just stated she is shutting down.
ReplyDeleteAnd to play devil's advocate for a minute - All those fans who are basking in Jeese at the moment have to wade through a lot of nasty shit themselves. That's if they're brave enough to look at comments on pap picture sites. Hell, innuendo is rampant just on the captioning of a lot of those Jeese photos such as on X17, TMZ and Flynet.
ReplyDeleteI think I've read just the same thing before - on the Gyllenspoon blog.
You don't happen to be the one running it?
It's cool if you are, but that doesn't mean we will appreciate you spreading the message of your blog here.
IF he's bisexual shouldn't we respect the choice of the moment he's made?
ReplyDeleteDefine respect.
Fact is OMG and WFT fans hardly ever go other jake blogs to try to convince people, while pro Reese fans/trolls spend more time in sites dedicated to J&A... i do find Liz's "carrot and stick" approach kind of funny though.
ReplyDeleteI think it is important to talk about Jeese, and it is what is going on right now, so why should we all pretend it is not happening. If nothing else, I think it is good for people to express that they're not buying it, and on a daily basis if need be. Why should this pr campaign get a free ride. I for one believe pr looks at sites like this.
ReplyDeleteI think it is fine when you post pictures of Jeese and compare them to J&A or to make other points I find myself spending time comparing pictures anyway, like the Jeese "morning" pictures and the J&A behead pictures.
Cdoggray5 I really liked your comments on the previous post. And (((me))), good to see you posting.
If WFT closes (which will be an incredible shame) it follows Jakewatch in being two of the main Jake fanblogs closing down in the wake of Reeke.
ReplyDeleteNow, this may be planned, but I can't see how alienating large sections of your fans can do anyone any good. I don't think its doing Reese'e rep much good either.
At the moment I feel sorry for both Jake and Reese. I think they are being very badly advised about all this. Its all just very, very sad.
Good point 4:12. Personally I have never posted a comment anywhere except WFT or OMG, and it took me over a year of reading WFT to do so. Shy, I guess. The comments on the general gossip sites are beyond nasty and painful to read, but I do find myself reading them. The whole idea of the web and blogs is that it allows anyone and anything to be said, and for people of like interests to find each other. Any censorship ultimately ruins that, so as much as I dont like the comments, I respect people's right to say them.
ReplyDeleteITA, Destiny. I'll admit that I may be wrong, but I'm just not buying Jeese. If it is a PR campaign, then I want J&R's PR to know that I'm not biting. If it's real, then why would J&R care what I think one way or the other?
ReplyDeleteYou know, I was thinking the same thing - like any marketing scheme, it's better for PR to know that we are not buying it, a focus group, if you will. If it is a real relationship, I'm happy to be proven wrong and wish them well, but there's just something that doesn't ring true to me.
ReplyDeleteMarie, thanks for the info about Buenos Aires too. :)
Destiny, I totally agree with your first paragraph. We can't pretend Reeke is not happening, but I'm not going to pretend I believe it's a real relationship when I don't.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking today that maybe one of the main reasons I am having such a hard time with the bearding is the person that Jake has chosen to do it with. I personally would not find it quite so sickening (although would still disagree with it) if his 'girlfriend' was someone who's a bit more likeable. I think Reese comes across as very cold and controlling and I don't think there is any way she is going to come out of this whole thing looking like a fool (well, no more than she already has with all the flinging herself about) and I have no idea how Jake is going to get him self out of this mess. I really think he has made a very bad decision.
h.. I think that Reese may be as much of a 'victim' of all this as Jake. You get the impression of a woman with very few (if any) real friends, who is surrounded by sychophants who will not tell her that she's making an idiot of herself for fear of losing their position. She seems like someone who doesn't have anyone to tell her what a twit she's making of herself, and someone who doesn't have the confidence to stand up to her handlers and tell them that she doesn't want to go through with this (wasn't there an article about the Rendition press interview when she didn't seem to have the confidence to ask for the air conditioning to be turned down even though she was freezing).
ReplyDeleteMaybe I'm being too kind to both of them, I don't know.
Liz,
ReplyDeleteYou believe that Jake is Bisexual and therefore are able to embrace Jake with Reese. You are free to post your thoughts, impressions and kudos to your heart's content on OMG. Squee with girlish delight if you are so inclined. Your posts won't be deleted. That's the nature of this blog.
But, understand this - many folks here fall on the Jake is Gay side, and are also free to express themselves concerning what we see as a horrific and embarrassing attempt at bearding.
In addition, the right to comment, disagree and challenge your posts also stands - just as yours to do likewise with ours. It's called debate where I'm from, and I for one am very appreciative of the opportunity OMG offers to vent my views, and read others whether they sidle up to mine or not.
As long as the debate remains neighborly, trollish or egotistic behavior no where to be seen, it can only help a fandom currently in a serious crisis.
If this arrangement is not to your liking, perhaps Oh My Godot is not where you should be spending your precious time.
Oh, and Thanks guys for the hugs!
It is all about PR and marketing I agree Destiny.
ReplyDeleteIt is all about selling a product. Jeese is a product. I don't think it's neither new or improved of the old versions of each of them.
It is like New Coke, oh yeah they thought everyone would love it, and the projections said it would be a hit. But despite all the hype and no one ever bought it, so much so they went back to the original and you can never find New Coke again.
Are you listening 360? We don't drink the New Coke and we don't buy the Jeese either. No matter how flashy you try to sell it. Or how much your Q number calculations would say we would love them.
Let it go and give us back the real thing.
Jeez. Wasn't trying to incite or inflame. Was sort of responding to what Wicked had asked. And illustrating, badly I presume, that an opposing viewpoint - not even that - a request to treat these people with respect was met with...well see below...
ReplyDeleteBut I see I've been met with scorn and suspicion in my previous posts since evidently it doesn't toe the party line of thinking. That's cool I guess. Goes along with all the other close-minded Jeese blogs.
Ciao bellas.
Liz, did you actually read answers to your post?
ReplyDeleteAs long as the debate remains neighborly, trollish or egotistic behavior no where to be seen, it can only help a fandom currently in a serious crisis.
ReplyDeleteOh so true. A very serious crisis.
This was in today Boston's Globe.
ReplyDelete"Ok, maybe not easy. But today's gay high schoolers are discovering that declaring their homosexuality - and doing it at younger and younger ages - brings little of the stigma and complications that earlier generations faced."
Easy Out
Thanks for the link Special. It's nice to read about positive changes.
ReplyDeletewho'sthat said...
ReplyDeleteLiz, did you actually read answers to your post?
Yes, I did. And these two sort or stick in my craw.
I read this from Stubborn:
I think I've read just the same thing before - on the Gyllenspoon blog.
You don't happen to be the one running it?
It's cool if you are, but that doesn't mean we will appreciate you spreading the message of your blog here.
And this from Winterbird:
i do find Liz's "carrot and stick" approach kind of funny though.
Both untrue and frankly a little bit insulting, but more importantly speaks to what I said about being met with suspicion and scorn.
Well liz, I think I have said it before, but here again. I think Jake is probably bi. I would have absolutely nothing against Jeese, except the fact I am not a big fan of hers and I think he is 100 times hotter nad better looking than her, which is my problem not his. IF I had a history and pictures showing me he is obvioulsy in love with her. But, from what I see and hear, he looks like having a relationship not of the passionate kind with her. Which makes me worried for him. And opens up a can of worms of speculations about what is really going on with them, which I think it is legitimate for us to question and talk about. If you are sure he is bi and in love with Reese now, move to another blog seriously or bring forward your reasons for being so confident that is the case.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how many of you say that Jake and Reese are not in a relationship. I think they are in a very real one. If they weren't, they wouldn't be spending time together. But before anyone jumps up to disagree/agree, maybe I ought to define what kind of relationship, as there are many types to be found in all of our lives, right? Family, work, love, sexual, friend, acquaintance, the list could go on forever.
ReplyDeleteMy take is that J/R are friends and possibly business partners (time will tell if they are indeed collaborating on a film/theatre project). And there's nothing wrong with that. The affection displayed in the Rome and LAX pictures is, to me, representative of a close, dear friendship. I think that we have to remember that J/R themselves and their agents have never publicly stated nor shown us anything about a romance between them -- only the gossips have implied that it exists.
And so it goes, the readers believe, the bearding accusations fly. When all it really adds up to is what? Maybe just two good friends who are getting applauded and attacked at the same time because of misinterpreted projections of strangers, i.e. their fans.
It's just a thought. I mean, maybe we ought to give J/R some leeway: yes, it's a relationship, a friendship.
Mally.. not really buying the 'just friends' explanation, but it might be a handy get out for them to explain a fauxmance thats gone pear shaped.
ReplyDeleteMeg, please tell me why you don't believe they are just friends.
ReplyDeleteMally..i'm pretty sure they just friends, I'm just not sure that what they're trying to sell to the public at the moment.
ReplyDeleteAs a TB who's been reflecting a lot today about what's become of places like WFT, I think with all due respect there was one good point in what Liz said. Wicked's rebuttal about facing reality duly noted, as well as what Special said on the limited number of main posts mentioning Reese nothwithstanding...
ReplyDeleteIMO it's not about wanting to ignore reality, but admitting it's been well established by now here and at the sites TBs care about that many think Reeke are fake and/or boring, and asking ourselves how many times we can say the same thing before it becomes needlessly repetitive and possibly affect the health of discussion. Not to mention the sanity of those who come in good faith because they love J&A and hope for discussion not just in main posts but in the comments to be more J&A focused.
Criticizing Reeke every time a new picture surfaces is still the same Reeke talk, y'know? This is a sham/silly/I hate it ad nauseum. While it may still be as emotionally true as the first time we saw Reeke, it can and does get dull to read over and over and can tonally affect discussion with dwelling on the negative. In addition we're in a way still giving PR what they want, by diverting attention from J&A with Reeke or whatever new obstacle they throw in our way. I kind of equate it to them throwing over our eyes a thin veil with an image painted on the inside. We can be distracted endlessly by the painted picture or acknowledge its fakeness and move on, focusing the majority of our attention looking through it to what's real beyond.
Therefore, I think it comes down to what we want our J&A community to be. We can let it be directed by the current shenanigans of the day, or insist it be an oasis where you can acknowledge whatever PR machinations are going on while still keeping it in its place relative to what we're all really here for. I think Wicked and Special already do a great job of this for the most part. I think the amount of Reeke being thrown out there is forcing all TBs to readjust in a way that we haven't had to before and we're all still trying to find a balance that will satisfy everyone while not veering into censorship.
Therefore, I think an important distinction should be made between trolls who come to stir up shit and those who may just be frustrated with so much of fandom talk being so Reeke centric lately. I can sympathize and I'm a pretty patient person, willing to wade through troll posts to get to the meat. I've no interest in the teenybopper sites and like other J&A supporters I come here because it's an oasis from the same old heterocentric paradigm. So to me, it's not about preventing people from commenting, it's about noticing how many comments per thread at pro-J&A sites are dominated by talk of Jake and Reese (even critical ones) and not Jake and Austin and asking ourselves if we can (and want to) do better.
I've just realised the terrible English in my last post, if should of course read...
ReplyDeleteMally, I'm pretty sure that they are just friends. I'm just not sure that is what they are attempting to hoist on the public at the moment.
Apologies.
Meg, no worries! You said it fine the first time, I understood you. ;)
ReplyDeleteIn addition we're in a way still giving PR what they want, by diverting attention from J&A with Reeke or whatever new obstacle they throw in our way
ReplyDeleteI am not sure pointing out how Jake and Reese look fake and a bearding to protect J&A accomplishes what you mention above
So to me, it's not about preventing people from commenting, it's about noticing how many comments per thread at pro-J&A sites are dominated by talk of Jake and Reese (even critical ones) and not Jake and Austin and asking ourselves if we can (and want to) do better
Oh sure we can always imporve... why don't you start by posting something about J&A you would like to discuss? With all respect I am kinfd of tired of people being specatatorsa and only coming into the discussion to say they don't like what they read. Take the initiative, be first, I am sort of short of ideas at the moment...
My two cents quickly.
ReplyDeleteThis is a personal adaptation of one of Susan Sarandon's lines in Moonlight Mile:
"You find your home, and it may not be what you thought - you know; colour's off (???), style's wrong (is it? the music's great though!)... but there it is anyway and to hell with you if you can't take a joke (ITA). You find your home. Ben's mine."(Excuse me but I'll stick with OMG.)"
This is an article about movie-goers shunning Iraq films.
ReplyDeleteIt talks about the under performance of the crop of movies about the current socio-political environment. Rendition is mentioned.
Hollywood is a casuality of war
I would just like to thank Liz for triggering a cogent discussion. Wow, suddenly OMG comments are so interesting to read! I feel like home once again :) And there you go - I just de-lurked.
ReplyDeleteWelcome back Rattler.
ReplyDeleteMy pleasure, Special K!
ReplyDeleteSpesh, thanks for that article about the why movies about the war on terror/war in Iraq are doing poorly at the box office -
ReplyDeleteWelcome back Rattler and Me!
Rattler, I read your review of Rendition and it was great! :*
I think Gent and Rattler are the one and the same.
ReplyDeleteMy take is that J/R are friends and possibly business partners (time will tell if they are indeed collaborating on a film/theatre project).
ReplyDeleteMally I had that thought, maybe you are right. It would sure explain things better than J&R being in a romantic relationship, including some of the single-for-the-ladies and I-wont-comment-on-something-ai-cannot-give-an-honest-answer comments
Welcome back Me, it's really nice to read you again.
ReplyDeleteAnd welcome back Rattler. I'm sure Liz will be happy to learn how fruitful her contribution was to OMG. ;)
I guess I am a little perplexed that it seems like OMG is pushing the Jeese thing. Again going back to over the past two weeks.
ReplyDeleteWe have had 4 post solely about Austin.
We have had 2 posts about Jake and Austin.
We have had 2 post with Jake and Peter.
We have 1 post that was from Ted's Column.
We have 2 posts just about Jake and Fame
We had looked the concept of truth is Stranger than Fiction.
And we have seen Reese related items twice. One with not one word written but just Duck Duck Goose.
While it might not be reflected in the comments. You step back at look at it. OMG is trying it's best to be evenly balanced.
Thanks NETB!
ReplyDeleteFrenchy: :) :)
Special K: IMO, the OMG main posts are pretty much balanced! Please don't sweat about it. Keep up the good work.
And no, why would I post with a different name? I don't gent it.
Hi Rattler! Nice to see you again. :)
ReplyDeleteI really appreciated everyone's posts about what we want to do here. Spesh and I do understand that many do not want to talk about Jeese, and there are other topics to discuss. I do have to echo Zero's comment-
why don't you start by posting something about J&A you would like to discuss?
If the current discussion is not to your liking, bring something else up! I have no problem being OT and I think most here are likewise okay with it. Liz, I appreciate the fact that you brought this up so we could all talk about this. And tomorrow's post is not about Jeese. It was written by a very special guest poster who is near and dear to my heart!
Wow, I just read the article Spesh linked called "Easy Out." It made me happy for and jealous of kids today. When I was in college, some friends of mine were tabling for the campus gay social organization. A guy and his friends came up the table. The guy quickly drank a bottle of chocolate milk and threw up all over the table and my friends! At least the college disciplined him for it. It makes me glad to think things like that are much less likely to happen now.
ReplyDeleteWhile it might not be reflected in the comments. You step back at look at it. OMG is trying its best to be evenly balanced.
ReplyDeleteSpecial, Wicked and yourself are doing an awesome job and I see no need to justify anything you girls have accomplished so far.
Jeese is still young and I think it was quite normal to see the recent flood of comments on this subject.
However, if you think we're straying from the blog's mission I hope you won't hesitate to say so. :) By the way, my "we" refers to those (myself included) who posted about Jeese.
Now on a very shallow note, I just wanted to say that I contacted Amazon.ca about the DVDs I never received and they're going to reship the whole order totally free of charge!
And that's worth two positives IMO! :D
Aw shit. Now I made you guys feel bad and I feel bad. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything at all. My intention was not to make anyone feel like they had to justify anything as this was more a general trend in the comments of fandom I was trying to identify (perhaps badly) and not something I feel any one person or site is responsible for.
ReplyDeleteStill I owe you a response, zero. Regarding what you asked, well in general how about more of what J&A are doing right rather than doing wrong?
If we agree Reeke is a fauxmance, rather than say oh how staged Reese's smile looks again or oh how bored Jake looks again, we can try to relate it back to J&A. We believe J&A are still going strong as a couple... Did they possibly come up with this scheme together with their PR? Yes? No? Do we think it's panning out the way they'd hoped? For how long and for what purpose? We don't think Jake's alone in the Jake and Austin relationship do we? Where do we think Austin is (besides Uruguay) in all this?
What do we think Jake and Austin's priorities are right now as a couple? Assuming they stay in the closet and or continue to follow PR's direction, what do they have to look forward to? These are questions I ask with love of J&A, though I don't think support all the decisions they make it's probably a learning process for them. I try not to judge and that means considering the good of a situation as well as the bad. Even if it's just a perceived good I try to look at everything from Jake and Austin's perspective together as a couple.
I know that was all a bit stream of consciousness, but said in hopes it showing you where I'm coming from a little bit more. I can get pretty emotional when I think of J&A and so I try and focus on the positive. I do still consider OMG the best J&A community for the level of intelligence of its posters so I hope that's not in question. Even when people disagree the discourse is still respectful, and as we know on the internet that requires a lot more work and maturity from the top on down. Special and Wicked do a great job (as the latest articles Special posted are an example of, thanks :) ).
I also wanted to add the posts featuring Austin have been some of my favorites.
Is this what Wicked or Special K (I can't remember, sorry!) was talking about, that the E online Ted column comes out early? This is Monday's edition (nothing's in it about A/J/R, though).
ReplyDeletehttp://www.eonline.com/gossip/awful/index.jsp?uuid=bdcf552f-d012-4030-8166-606f227e5d82&page=1
And i'm on the Left Coast, so it really comes out early, at 8 pm Sunday night. lol
ReplyDeleteI forgot to say "duck duck goose" is very funny. And I've been thinking about the goose a lot today, particularly how in that podcast he joked about being locked in his room because he was doing penance, and how they were probably meeting up in NY a lot, and wondering about what they've had to do or will have to do to be together after Ted.
ReplyDeleteI am thoroughly sick of the Jeese and this is the only Jake related site I go to so I do think we talk about them way too much.
ReplyDeleteI think some people are just hoping that Jake is going to realise this isn't worth it and 'break up' with Reese sometime in the next few weeks and go back to the Jake we all love.
But what if he doesn't? What if this is a long term plan? Over a year? Over several years? That's a real possibility.
Jake is about to film a movie and he's signed on for another movie. Austin is filming a movie and about to start showing in a tv guest spot.
Let's talk more about that.
I'm not saying bury our heads in the sand. Just that Reeke is possibly the most boring story out there and doesn't deserve this kind of attention, showmance or romance.
It's always difficult between Jaustin pictures. I don't see this as very different from the other times we have waited, only with the daily dose of Reeke pictures the waiting is more painful. I'm sure things will get better once we get news about Austin and Jake's movie projects. And suprise info can also emerge (Austin's ring, NY sighting - they didn't happen that long ago).
ReplyDeleteI don't enjoy discussing Reeke but what can you do, when that is the topic that is being shoved down our throat. At least here you can be critical about it. I think that special and wicked have done a good job providing posts of the good old times, the boy's future projects as well as new Reeke pictures. It's no use pretending they don't exist at all.
Sorry, I also forgot to say how wonderfully creative Duck Duck Goose was! The title, the pictures, someone (the hen) ducking because they're ashamed, contrasted with a goose just being himself and proud to be seen with his friend (another cock lol!). In the DDG childhood game the Duck was benign, the Goose was the one you wanted to chase you. ;D
ReplyDeleteYou tied the theme of the post, hell the blog! together very, very well. Thank you.
I also forgot to comment about this great post. As soon as I saw Duck, Duck, Goose and the corresponding photos I thought it was very clever.
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