Sunday, March 2, 2008
Out Spotlight XV
Today's spotlight focuses on another Hollywood actor, who you might say is the flip side of William Haines, our Valentine's Out Spotlight. Ramon Novarro was also a silent screen star who successfully transitioned to talkies. He worked at MGM, along with Billy Haines during the '20s and '30s. Novarro was from Mexico and moved to L. A. with his family to escape the Mexican revolution. Novarro was the first Latin Hollywood star. His biggest successes were the films Ben-Hur and Mata Hari.
Novarro was gay, and struggled with it mightily. He was not comfortable with it like Haines was. Novarro was Catholic and worked to reconcile his faith and his sexuality. He never seemed at ease. Novarro did move in the same circles as Haines, and Novarro's sexuality was fairly well-known, for much of the 1920s. Novarro had a significant relationship with his publicist, Herbert Howe, that was alluded to in the fan magazines. The gossips wrote about Novarro not being married, never having a girlfriend, and spending all his time with his family and his publicist. In the early '30s, when Hollywood and the country became much more conservative, Novarro became reclusive. Louis B. Mayer also tried to force Novarro into a lavender marriage. Novarro refused. In 1935, MGM let him go, the same year Mayer pushed Billy Haines out.
Novarro, unfortunately, did not have the ability to reinvent himself like Billy Haines. He also did not have a strong long-term relationship to support him. He became more reclusive and drank heavily. The only sexual contact he would allow himself was from hustlers he picked up in the street. Novarro did some character acting after 1935 and always hoped for a comeback. This was not to be. On October 30, 1968 Novarro was brutally beaten to death in his home by two hustlers he had hired for sex. They believed Novarro had a large sum of money in the house, but this was not the case. The men would not believe Novarro when he denied having money and killed him. They left his house with $20 they took from his bathrobe. The two men were caught and convicted but were released fairly quickly. Both picked up new charges (none as serious as Novarro's murder) and were re-incarcerated. The two men have done more time on their less serious charges than they did for Novarro's murder.
What is interesting to me about Ramon Novarro is that during the '20s he was out and was even in a relationship. Then, in reaction to the new conservatism of the times, he attempted to go back into the closet, but he was not willing to go all the way. He had to know that when he refused a lavender marriage, it would be all over for him, just like it was for Billy Haines. But refuse he did. A brave act. And a sad life. RIP, Ramon Novarro.
Picture from ramonnovarro.com
Reeke pics hit x17 @ 10 am but IHJ had them up by 7 am.
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ReplyDeleteEllen Paige hosted SNL last night. Most people will be talking about Hilary Clinton cameo.
ReplyDeleteBut did anyone see the very last skit? Ellen Paige Lesbian Skit on SNL Thoughts?
"but i am sure jake would rather do the work himself LOL"
ReplyDeleteDon't think Jake is thus inclined...
Thank you for this post, it's fascinating.
ReplyDeleteRamon Novarro's life story would make an interesting movie adaptation.
How soon IS now, Mr Morrissey? ;)
Great song.
Interesting post on Ramon. More talented [and regular folk] end up existing/slowly dying like him than thriving like Haines.
ReplyDeletewhere you find people for the Spotlight is great. Truth is I thot I'd be bored at first when you had the idea [sorry!] but now I look forward to them.
btw the last posted Saturday comment by an Anon should be deleted too imo.
Just watched that Ellen Page lesbian skit. We used to call women like that "Lilith Fair lesbians"- women who would go to hear women's music, become all hyped up by all the female energy, and start sucking face with their best friends. Then they would get over it and go home to their boyfriends.
ReplyDeleteTruth is I thot I'd be bored at first when you had the idea [sorry!] but now I look forward to them.
I'm really flattered by this, thanks. :)
P. S. I took care of that anon comment!
Clip from Mata Hari- Ramon Novarro and Greta Garbo
ReplyDeleteThanks old movie watcher. Great clip.
ReplyDeleteNovarro had so many negative messages coming at him about his sexuality, not only the Catholic church, and Hollywood, but also coming from a Latin heritage as well.
He was a beautiful and talented actor as you can see by the clip. It is a true tragedy what happened to Ramon.
It is a greater tragedy that even today there are those who struggling with the same things.
What an awful end.
ReplyDeleteThis is one was of my all-time favorite songs!!!!
For SpecialK.
ReplyDeleteMockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in corn cribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us. That's why it's a sin to kill a mockingbird.
Thanks for another fantastic and fascinating Spotlight. I never cease to be amazed by these artists who resisted TPTB as far back as the 20's!
ReplyDeleteI'll come back to get a look at the links above a bit later. I have some office work to do at home today and I really have to start now!
I would be remiss not to mention the Ramon Novarro biography by Andre Soares- Beyond Paradise: The Life of Ramon Novarro. Unfortunately it's out of stock on Amazon right now.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link to Ellen Page, I went to bed before it was on. Earlier this week Michael Musto speculated about Ellen Page when talking about all the stars who bring their mothers to the Oscars. Well, apparently Ellen's publicist called him up about it last night during SNL. I read all about that before coming here and learning about the skit. Here's the Musto story (sorry, I can't remember how to link).
ReplyDeletehttp://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/archives/2008/02/ellen_page_sexu.php
You shut your mouth
ReplyDeleteHow can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved,
Just like everybody else does.
This is one of my favorites Smiths songs too, and these lines have always resonated with me, how people are forced by society to conform, in many ways, not the least of which is whom they should love. I don't think people can repress their true selves, and shouldn't have to. These societal messages harm everyone, and we see another in a tragic death that should never have happened, and was not treated with the seriousness it should have been.
Beautiful film clip and a beautiful man. Thanks, guys.
Ellen's publicist sounds like a self-loathing lesbian:
ReplyDelete"I don't know why people are so mean," Bush whinnied in a wounded voice.
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ReplyDeleteHe still needs her professionally and emotionally, and his personal life is still a mess.
ReplyDeleteHuh? Why on Earth would Jake "emotionally" need someone like her?
Did Jake's family and all of his friends deserted him?
Very interesting post on Novarro, and to contrast his life with Haines. And the fact they were both let go in 1935 is no coincidence. A few weeks ago I went and saw a speaker at NYPL talk about his book on censorship and the Hays Code. The Hays Code was enacted in 1930, but the studios didn't start following it until 1934.
ReplyDeleteOne thing the author talked about (I've forgotten his name) is that the Depression and the general breakdown in government during that time contributed to HW's being able to make all of these outrageous pre-code movies. Then once FDR was in and government regained control so to speak over the country and the economy conservatives were able to get the upper hand and force HW to change under the threat of censorship. Cracking down on people's sexuality often goes hand in hand with cracking down on political dissent.
Dresden we are reposting this with some editing. This post orginially included some information about one of Jake's friends we don't want posted on the blog.
ReplyDeleteOur policy is that we are not going post personal information about Jake's civilian friends.
dresden said...
From last post :
"Ted said Reeke would last til the end of awards season. The Oscars are over, so that could mean PR is setting the stage with these buddy pics so that when Jake and Reese do break up, they can make the innocuous But They Are Still Good Friends Claim. Obligation over, minimal waves in the press, Jake and Reese can quietly move on."
The charade goes on, but it makes sense, given the logic of bearding. He still needs her professionally and emotionally, and his personal life is still a mess. He also needs the pr; the moon movie is not even close to filming right now, and other projects are still up in the air.
JJ and Perez- The Transcripts
ReplyDeletePage 6 drinks the Reeke-aid
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'm a bit late for the party can I just add that the latest Reeke photos are some of the funniest I've seen. In some it looks like she's postively stooping, and that neck lock really looks uncomfortable.
ReplyDeleteLoathe though I am to say it I do like her top though, quite fancy one myself.
(Also, looks like Penelope is semi-flopping, which is nice).
IHJ is NY based, the pics would be PST. Seems they were posted immediately which is quite a coincidence. I am quite surprised by the Page 6 post. Aren't they usually pretty snarky about Reeke, or am I mixing them up with another NY based entity. I know there are a couple with similar names.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that is very perplexing to me is that we have no clue where Austin lives these days. NY or West Coast. Hardly any current details about him at all. I wish Ted would mention the boyfriend and what he is up to.
Maybe we need to send in Gray Goose questions :)
ReplyDeleteIHJ Stephanie lives in Florida.
ReplyDeleteAustin lives in Santa Monica.
ReplyDeleteI suspect that Page Six is trying to be a mainstream gossip site now that they've expanded, and that means bowing down to PR. You can bet PR is behind that post.
ReplyDeleteIHJ Stephanie lives in Florida.
ReplyDeleteSo she would be on EST, same as NY.
Austin lives in Santa Monica.
ReplyDeleteWhere Jake was seen dining with his friend.
Yeah, that Page Six entry is straight-up PR 101.
ReplyDelete"For what it's worth:
ReplyDeleteI pal of mine was at a trendy bar/restaurant "Father's Office" in Brentwood on Montana Ave, wed nite, waiting in line Jakey G pulled up hopped out went to front of the line, my pal said doorman said something and Jake very politely went to the back of the line with his friend.. I asked my pal was he with Reese or a chick? "Nope, some tall guy." They were laughing and talking about."killing in a part". They got in and went and sat in the back.I asked my pal why didn't you get a cell phone pic, he said it was too dark." My pal is not a Jake fan, so not a"fanfic" Again, for what it's worth."
:)
ReplyDeleteThat sounds similar to this account posted on imdb right after People posted the sighting at the same place and day,Wednesday night.
ReplyDeleteFathers Office is in Santa Monica BTW, where is that account from?
"I actually was sitting next to him and a friend in Father's Office in Santa Monica last night. At one point I overheard Jake ask his friend, "Did you watch the debates......I like Obama." Don't know if that means that's his final choice.
For what it's worth he's taller than one might expect.
It's on Jakes thread on imdb named Obama or Hillary.
I asked my pal was he with Reese or a chick? "Nope, some tall guy."
ReplyDeleteJake with a tall guy in Santa Monica? Who can that be?
Killing in a part? Wha?
^ That's quite archaic slang, so I'm guessing that was Austin :)
ReplyDeleteWhat the heck does it mean? Professor Higgins. Please translate.
ReplyDeleteThe rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain.
ReplyDeleteFunny (I think). 1920s?
ReplyDeleteWoah! I'm the real prof.
ReplyDeleteOr they could simply have been talking about a violent role.
ReplyDelete"Dresden we are reposting this with some editing. This post orginially included some information about one of Jake's friends we don't want posted on the blog.
ReplyDeleteOur policy is that we are not going post personal information about Jake's civilian friends. "
What are you talking about? What civilian friends? What personal information? I didn't know that Jake had friends in the military. And the post I left was identical to what you re-posted. Where's the difference?
Tall guy?? Is that it? Sniff. He didn't recognize me. But of course, they know who Jake is..
ReplyDeleteOh well...
And the post I left was identical to what you re-posted. Where's the difference?
ReplyDeleteNo, it isn't identical.
You don't remember your own post?
It's like everyone has forgotten about me and doesn't know I exist.
ReplyDeleteBreck, I'm still in Jake's life. But no, no one mentions me. I just get "tall guy."
I need to dress in full drag next time.
Hey Austin
ReplyDeleteAusti Spumanti is the real Austin in these parts. He has been around for ages and newbies need to learn that and fast.
Austin is either the Tall Guy or the Unidentified Partygoer.
ReplyDeleteGet your sick buckets out. Reeke in NY.
ReplyDeletehttp://perezhilton.com/2008-03-02-gyllenspoons-romantic-getaway-2
I hope Jake visits Matilda.
ReplyDeletePerez gets his pics from somewhere else, right? This says Buzz foto. But I can't find the pic or any of them on the Buzz foto site, from his link or separately.
ReplyDeleteInteresting post. Now, a couple of brief comments:
ReplyDeleteThere's no evidence that Louis B. Mayer ever tried to force Ramon Novarro into an arranged marriage.
And Novarro didn't really become more reclusive in the 1930s. He was partying a whole lot -- and it shows if you watch his movies of that period.
Here's the story for you who dont want to go to Perez site. The pic is them coming out of a store, the doorman holding the door open. Of course Jake came out first and Reese is 3 steps behind.
ReplyDeleteReese is doing some Avon speech at the UN on Fri or Sat.
Gyllenspoon's Romantic Getaway
Jake Gyllenhaal and Reese Witherspoon are still together and seemingly stronger than ever!
The couple were spotted in NewYork City this weekend, where they were seen leaving the A.P.C boutique in SoHo on Sunday.
Perezcious reader Taylor ran into Gyllenspoon on the street Sunday, and this is what was observed:
"My friend and I were walking on 34th and 8th in Manhattan, at 4:45 pm and saw Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal holding hands and walking down 8th. It was really sweet…they were holding hands, he was holding her Balenciaga bag, and he was kissing her on the head while they waited for the light to change."
Awwwwww!!!!!!!!!
Great website, Andre!
ReplyDeleteWas Novarro exclusively gay? Was he ever linked with a woman?
Reese is doing some Avon speech at the UN on Fri or Sat.
ReplyDeleteOn Tuesday at 10:30 a.m. in Room 226, Joanne Sandler, Executive Director of UNIFEM [United Nations Development Fund for Women]; Reese Witherspoon, Actress and Avon Global Ambassador; and Andrea Jung, Chief Executive Officer of Avon Products Inc., announce a private-public partnership with Avon Inc. on ending violence against women and promoting women’s economic empowerment.
http://www.un.org/News/briefings/docs//2008/db080229.doc.htm
Great website, Andre!
ReplyDeleteVery interesting indeed!
Awwwwww... how sweet! he's there to support her! after he missed out on the Penelope premier and Valentine's day and Christmas and his b'day and Thanksgiving and....!
ReplyDelete"seemingly"? What?! aren't you convinced Perez?
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no more oysters 4 U! killed sumthin def.
the bag 4 me? want the bag handler more. ur tall tex
There's no evidence that Louis B. Mayer ever tried to force Ramon Novarro into an arranged marriage.
ReplyDeleteAndre, I read that on a few internet sources that Novarro alluded to Mayer trying to get him into a lavender marriage.
Guys, it appears that we are important enough to impersonate and that somebody has A LOT of time on their hands. There are comments on the Gyllenspoon post @ Perez from ME, Frenchy, Spesh, Destiny, and me. I can assure you all that I do not post as Wicked unless I can do it under a Blogger ID. I don't think any of our regulars made any of the comments attributed to them either. And there are quite a few of them. A lot of them have us calling Brokeback fans losers. I think someone is trying to drive a wedge between us and the BBM fandom. Fortunately, I don't think BBM folks are dumb.
Jake don't look happy
ReplyDeleteWell I know that I don't post as Special K unless under my blogger id as well.
ReplyDeleteHow very weird of them. Are they (or is it one person--probably) that obsessed with this site?
ReplyDeletePlease, I have never posted on Perez and haven't visited there in almost a year.
ReplyDeleteIt is flattering, though, to think that our names hold that much weight. Flattering in a stalkerish way.
My guess would be Jeff's handiwork.
The only places I post under Destiny are here, Spooky2th and Austin Media.
ReplyDeleteDo you know that Jeff has never seen Brokeback Mountain and yet he posts constantly in the Jake Gyllenhaal board on imdb? Now BBM is unquestionably the highlight of Jake's career (and probably will be even in 20 years) but how can you claim to be a fan of Jake's and say you have never seen that movie???
ReplyDeletePerez? I don't even visit that place anymore and even when I did I never posted there - just too borrrrring IMO. The only places where I use the Frenchy name are OMG, Spooky2th and AustinMedia. And the only other place where I post is FCC!
ReplyDeleteI agree Wicked, Brokies are not stupid. I totally trust they won't fall for such a childish trick.
Back to business now:
Thanks a bunch for the beautiful Novarro/Garbo clip and also for the link to the Alternative Film Guide. Well, not exactly a link but I clicked on Andre's name and found a very interesting site. :)
I watched my copy of Rendition but then foolishly lent it to my brother, then to one of my sisters. I just got it back a couple of hours ago and will watch the supplements. :)
I do need to clarify that I do post under Special K on Austin Media and Spooky2th as well as here on OMG.
ReplyDeleteFrenchy I hope that the Brokies know that we would never feel that way about a Brokeback.
I never post on Perez, but I had to tonight. I'm sure the BBM crowd is not stupid either, but I still felt the need to say something; I think the other posters at Perez should know what is going on.
ReplyDeleteWhen I posted the pic site here I read the comments after. There were about 72 I think the last time I read them. I noticed there was Wicked and a frenchy (and they were anti- BBM, gay) but it didn't dawn on me that it was someone doing misdeeds. I just thought it was a coincidence of the names. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteI only go to PHilton for alerts or stuff like that. never commented either, they seem juvenile. the first 20 comments are all "FIRST!" - who cares.
sorry, I was bleeeccch, the one who posted the NYC site.
ReplyDeleteAfter slogging through the sh*t at Perez, I got a good laugh out of Dlisted's take on Reeke in NYC.
ReplyDeleteMore from NYC is right - Jake don't look happy. At all. Reese looks like she's trying to save face for the camera. Well, of course, stupid of me to say that, lol. Of course she plays to the camera. But Jake looks pissed. Probably just something temporary. *rolls eyes*
ReplyDeletebtw was it frenchy or M who noticed Jake likes to emerge from the door first? He holds it open for his agent/mgr/PR people, tho. In the NYC pics he's first, not even facing Reese, walking off w/o her. But we're to expect they were holding hands and kissing a few blocks away? maybe, but I think the Perez description of them waiting at the signal was fiction.
What'all think?
Destiny I followed your lead and posted a rectifying comment at Perez. Wonder if it will make a difference since, as Lastlol says above, commenters over there are extremely juvenile. But at least our corrections are there for the record. ;)
ReplyDeleteLast, it's M who pointed that out -I mean I know I didn't since Reeke pics only get but a cursory glance from me. :)
@WDW: 2Mar 3:44:
ReplyDeleteI swear to God some people in the Brokeback Mountain fandom are beginning to remind me of those Dungeon and Dragon nerds, you know what I mean?
@PH: #65 Frenchy says:
Dungeons and Dragons is this game where in the 80s a bunch of kids took it SO SERIOUSLY that their parents had to get them de-programmed.
Someone is playing nasty games.
Keep your cool, guys.
Good call, Rattler! The D&D metaphor. I never would have caught it.
ReplyDeleteName was "Liz from Fall River"
Thanks for pointing that out Rattler.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks to everyone at OMG for their cooler heads prevail approach to this whole thing.
I just saw the NY pictures. Wow, did PR really mess up this time. They don't even look like they know each other!! No wonder Perez was paid off to invent some spin about holding hands later on. Geesh, Atticus has more chemistry with the sidewalk than these two have in this photo. Jake looks like he wants to sprint to the nearest cab, and Reese has this sour, almost apologetic look on her face, like "Gosh, I know fellas, I'm trying, but it's hard, you know?" Oh boy, DNR on these pix. Where's that Photoshop when you need it?
ReplyDeleteThey say a picture is worth a thousand words Bosinney That first picture of Jake & Reese on IHJ says it all.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure the Jeesers and everyone will just say Lover's Quarrel or Jake hates to shop or Jake thought they would be late for something and how Reese knows how to temper him blah blah blah. They'll be lovey dovey next pics.
ReplyDeleteFor what it's worth, as a long time reader of Jake's Eyelashes on DC forum, which is the largest brokeback site, I don't think many of them read perez. He is too nasty and not liked. Ennisjack.com, the other brokeback site will not even allow any pap photos, so doubtful many perez readers there either. My guess is jack is doing the deed too. He is not allowed to comment on many sites so that may be all that's left.
ReplyDeleteFirst thing I noticed in the pics is that the door practically slammed in her face. Jake looks like he is late for something and running away. Showing absolutely no interest if she is even following. And yet another unflattering look on Reese's face. I'd call these the most obvious evidence that they are just friends yet.
The woman on the sidewalk with the big silver bag is trying not to get runned over by Jake!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but there there is something really OFF about these two...he's acting like he's not even WITH her in these photos!! (NYC-IHJ)
ReplyDeleteOne day we get pics with smiling PDA and the next day like they don't even know each other....
There is another set of pics from NY and I don't know what to think anymore. Saw them first at ONTD
ReplyDeleteOne really good thing about Jake taking reese to NYC is that they don't have to stay at a hotel they can stay at Jake and Austin's place. I am sure that is where Austin snd sophia stayed. I wonder if Austin just might be in NYC also:-)
ReplyDeleteI am so late... great post about Ramon Novarro. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteRe using the OMG posters name to wage war... I am a member at DC, I don't think Brokies are that easily fooled by such juvenile attempts, esp on those sites. Seriously, those sily people need to get a life.