Opened up one of the Boston papers this morning in on my commute and found this.
Oscar gal Reese Witherspoon had her kiddies, but not her boyfriend, “Brokeback Mountain” cowboy Jake Gyllenhaal, in tow yesterday when she took in the 146th Annual Martha’s Vineyard Agricultural Society Fair in West Tisbury.
The Hollywood honeys have rekindled their romance in recent weeks after a two-month hiatus, and are spending their summer hols with Reese’s kiddies, Ava, 7, and Deacon, 3on the Vineyard.
However, there’s been buzz that the “Walk the Line” lady and her brood aren’t bunking in at Jake’s family’s digs up-island. She’s staying with other friends nearby. Because doesn’t all of Hollywood spend its summers on the Rock????
Looks like for one --On Cape and the other Off with the Cape. Is Jake with his real number one girl -- Ramona?
Here is the rest of the story courtesy of the Inside Track girls.
Reese Makes the Farm Scene, Minus Jake
Friday, August 17, 2007
Cape On Cape Off
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Apologizing if the Reese talk offends some.
Reese is the cover story on Entertainment Weekly. The mention about her and Jake, and her divorce from Ryan and keeps mum.
But there is a quote for Gavin Hood:
"''To this day, I genuinely don't know if they had a relationship,'' offers Rendition director Gavin Hood, who first met Witherspoon at the 2006 Academy Awards (the South African filmmaker was picking up a statue of his own, for Tsotsi). ''But I can promise you that Reese and Jake were never together on the set. All of Jake's scenes took place in Morocco and all Reese's in L.A. The only time they crossed paths — when the paparazzi caught them — was on the way into a wardrobe fitting. Maybe some chemistry happened as they passed in the parking lot that day — I don't know. All I can say is that she was absolutely focused when it came to making the movie.''"
Entertainment Weekly
I am thinking that while Maggie and Peter are dealing Peter's recent Lyme Disease, Uncle Jake is pitching in taking care of Miss Ramona.
You can totally see Jake making up voices for all of her toys and her staring at him half in amusement and glee and half --is he for real?
"Maybe some chemistry happened as they passed in the parking lot that day — I don't know."
That quote from Gavin is very funny to me. Anyway, all of these Jeese sightings/speculation/general craziness do not faze me in the least. I can't imagine anything changing my mind about J&A. I'm convinced that they were (and hopefully still are) a couple.
Someone on WFT pointed out this piece of misinformation about Austin which is also very amusing:
"It was all over the Internet the other day about how Jake Gyllenhaal ran a race on Martha’s Vineyard with another man -- and so it goes when you turn in an Oscar worthy performance in a gay cowboy movie. So who was his co-running man?
Gawker tell us he’s Austin Nichols, a sous chef at Mario Batali’s upscale Manhattan restaurant Babbo. From what we can gather the root of the Jake is dating Austin rumor is that race on Martha’s."
Link
^That was glorious, wasn't it.
Oh god, poor Austin! "sous chef"
Hjulia posted a new interview with Austin. He says: "I'm dating a few ladies, but I wouldn't call any of them girlfriends"
http://community.livejournal.com/austinmedia/22569.html
Anon 1:32- so Austy's still doing the single young buck thing, huh?
Single young buck works for me as long as it includes dating a certain gentleman.
You have to love A's phraseology.
Putting those undergrad writing skills to good use with his phraseology. : )
My god, I dated for the prom/official activities, and only one of the three prom dates was a real boyfriend. The others were just "dates".
Austin's comment about refusing to call his apartment "home" reminds me of Jake's discussion about his home which was very similar.
Destiny, that is so true. Next Austin will say his home is full of icebergs!
I think the Boston Herald item is a plant.
I agree, PR hard at work at damage control.
It's things like the apt. comment that really says "couple" to me in a way that even the pictures don't. I think it is a reflection of how they think of at least some things in terms of "we" rather than "I".
I am sorry but that picture bothers me. Jake and Reese on MV at the same time? Not happy..
We have them in a car together 2 days in a row and now they are on MY at the same time. Wavering and shaking. I need to keep quiet.
^MV
Tom
What the Track is saying is that Reese is on "The Rock" but Jake is not there.
That is what is so interesting.
SK I need to know where he is now!
He was just there this weekend. This calm man in a crisis needs to take a deep breath and calm down. I havent been this nervous since she was spotted in the Camry.
Actually the Boston article says that Jake has been seen with Reese on The Rock:
"Meanwhile, when Jake hasn’t been soaking up the sun and fun on the Rock with his lady love, we’re told he’s been hanging out with Broadway director - and fellow long-time island res - Mike Nichols during his vacay. Gyllenhaal reportedly is going to star in “Farragut North,” a political drama directed by the venerable veteran of stage and screen, next fall - right around the time of the presidential election. Fancy that.
If he wasn't wouldn't they have said "while" he wasn't, not "when".
I took from the story is that he didn't accompany Reese and her kids to the Agricultural event on Wed., but he was seen having fun and sun with his lady love and hanging with Mike Nichols. Also she is staying at a home down the road from the Gyllenhaal home. It sounds like he is still there since they are talking now, not past tense unless they mean she was seen there before with them.
Tom, dear, remember Ted`s words: "No worries, doll." Don`t worry, at least not yet. Remember, we were prepared for this:-)
No, the most important turn of the phrase is "we were told". The news of Jake and Reese together on MV enjoying the sun and young love came from an outside source. Now, I do wonder who that could be?
Thanks for the interpretations of what you think is happening. Some may agree and some may not.
OMG is about having a place for such discussion. We want to encourage people to engage in discussion. We ask that you give as much respect to others here as you expect others to give to you when you post.
It's also really cool that people are using id's when posting, and we encourage everyone to pick a name be it for one post, one day, one week or longer.
Oops! Sorry. That was me at 7:47.
Thanks ME!
A bit of news about Austy's film "The Utopian Society"
Wicked cool. : )
Through that link I found the one for the movie. There are some sigh-worthy pictures of Austin. I can't believe how fangurly I've gotten over him.
I think it's sad and weird how someone would let this thing make them "wavery and shaky". That's just taking this stuff too far, Tom.
You cannot take anything in Hollywood as proof of anything else, just going by reports in magazines and on blogs. Even at WFT many of the J/A sightings were heavily criticized or dismissed.
Reese does have her own buddies in MV. She knows people in acting there and this lady has a wide circle of friends all over the States. The penciled in deets are the work of the PR people or local newspapers getting freaky with the fact they are both in the same area.
You should not take this stuff so seriously Tom, it's not worth it. See it for what it is, it's a ton of tease.
A Little More Spin from Janice Minn
Oh US Weekly we knew you would have to jump into this one again. No one likes to be the girl who wasn't invited to the party.
Anon 4:17 am. Feeling much better this morning. Felt good getting that out of my system. This whole thing with Reese is a tad bit annoying.
It sure helped that the Eagles and the Phils won last night. Also #5 Mr. McNabb the Eagles qb is back and looking good. E A G L E S
Eagles.
Is that Iggles Tom?
: )
You bet SK. They looked very good last night. Are ya ready for some football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice to find Tom back to his usual cheerful self! Yes, Special, it is very nice that most of the comments are from named posters.
It is so much easier to respond with empathy when you know the traits of a named poster. And it is almost impossible to establish an emotional connection with an anonymous entity.
I hope that this trend will continue and OMG will become a vivrant community!
Folks,
Just talked to Spesh and told her I need to leave the J&A fandom for a while. Some things are happening in my life that I need to attend to. I cannot spend the time online that I've been spending anymore. There are other things I need to deal with right now. I don't know how long this will go on or if I will be back. I may lurk, I may not, I don't know right now.
I've enjoyed all the friends I've made in this fandom. I hope you will all be willing to help Spesh get this place going. I think OMG could be great- with help from all of you. I am still a fan of Jake, a fan of Austin, and I am still on Team Jausty. I remain hopeful they will eventually come out- together. Take care of yourselves.
((((Wicked))))
You are truly a great friend. My mentor in the world of the blogger and even more importantly an incredible friend and support.
My thoughts and prayers are with you. I am sure all of us here and all your friends that you have made on this Jausty ride from the beginning feel the same.
Please keep in touch when you can again.
I know that I will try my best to keep up the mission and the vision we wanted for OMG
Special
Wicked,
You may be absent from OMG, but never from our minds and hearts.
Be at peace, friend.
I will truly, truly miss you wicked. Big hugs little darling.
Your voice of reason and empathy will be greatly missed, Wicked. Come back soon. Meanwhile, take care.
Wicked, I'll miss your voice of reason and tolerance.
Everyone I will never be able to do all of this on my own, and do what Wicked and I talked about for this blog.
I will need help, understanding; and patience. Any and all.
I want to make Wicked proud of what she created.
((((Wicked)))). I hope everything is or will be okay, and you'll be in my thoughts. I will miss your posts, they are always so well-reasoned and you are often the calm voice in the storms we've had. I hope we'll hear from you on occassion. Take care.
((((Special))), we're behind you 100%. Let me know if you need help.
I'm so sorry to hear this Wicked. Take care of yourself, and know that our thoughts and prayers are with you. You're a lovely person And I too hope to see you back again. The fandom wouldn't be the same without you.
Wicked I totally respect your decision and support it. You know I am there if you need me. If you lurk be sure to check up on me to see that I don't get out of line:-)
I need a favor. I need all tb's to make an effort to be one community.
It is so important to me. I want us to to be together when we hear the words. "I am Toothy" and "I am proud"
Special, Rattler, Wicked, Destiny, Dany, NG, NEtb, Frenchy, Joker, Heph, everyone help me out here Ok!
Yes Tom!
Couldn't say it better myself!
We're still all together in many ways Tom. Don't worry.
As for all the rest the only comfort I can bring is to say that time is a great healer. This is not something I believe, it's something I've experienced first hand.
Trust friend.
This was posted on DL's "Have Jake and Austin Split" thread tonight, after a day spent bashing Austin and squeeing Jeese, and it's a supreme summation of the entire subject:
'Austin hates the rumors but Jake doesn't' 'Austin thinks the whole rumor thing is junk and shit'
The rumors started in Feb 2006. Have Jake and Austin not been seen together since Feb 2006?
No? Your theory is already blown out of the water.
And that's just the times they've been papped. The reality here is that no one here knows the last time Jake and Austin saw each other.
Chris wasn't papped with Jake between April and last weekend. Heath hasn't been papped with Jake since Oscars 2006 Lance hasn't been seen with Jake since they were on a talk show together in February. Adam Levine said in an interview two weeks ago that he and Jake no longer 'see' each other. They only communicate via email because they are both so busy.
All four guys have been linked with Jake sexually. So why haven't you accused any of them as distancing themselves when they haven't been seen with Jake for a while?
According to the same people, Jake is romantically with Reese. So wouldn't you expect him to spend the most time with his girlfriend? If he is spending more time with other people, I'd say he is in the wrong relationship.
Austin spent most of this year filming a tv series. In the rare time he had off, wouldn't it be reasonable that he has a bunch of people he needs to catch up with, one of whom is Jake?
Maybe they are just living their respective lives and catch up occasionally.
'Austin hates the rumors but Jake doesn't' 'Austin thinks the whole rumor thing is junk and shit'
If it had been a case of a bunch of Jakes fans saying they believed that j&A were together and a bunch saying they believed that J&A were just friends, I'd say that Austin was being unfair with his comment. But let's not kid ourselves for a minute that that is what happened.
A group of people opened up a blog believing that J&A were together and celebrating that. The rest of the Jake fanbase tried to pretend that Austin didn't exist. They shut down all talk of him, tried to pretend that they weren't even friends and stated a bunch of bs about how they didn't want to pry into Jake's private life. Funny how the same places have 24 pages devoted to Jake/Reese - Are they? Aren't they?
It became about Jake couldn't be gay because he's too good looking, too honest, too lovable, too warm, too caring, too etc. And if he happened to be gay, he couldn't possibly be with Austin. Because Austin is too skinny, too tall, too ugly, too big a forehead, too d list, too etc. And what of Austin? Well he couldn't just love Jake as a friend or a lover (even if Jake is the most lovable and perfect being). No, Austin would have to be in it to use Jake.
That's before we even get to the lovely names like 'Kneepad Nichols' and people actually believing that Austin is behind the WFT blog.
All these crazies have to live somewhere and most of them live in the US. So how do we know that some of this vitriol hasn't met Austin face to face? I wouldn't be suprised to learn that Austin has had to deal with some of this crap right on his doorstep.
With all of that in mind, I think what Austin said was kind of tame. I'd be saying a lot worse.
Even those who are for J&A slam Austin when something happens they don't like. Every time Ted C says something about Toothy they take it to mean that Jake is about to come flying out of the closet. When it doesn't happen, it must be Austin holding him in. If Jake Gyllenhaal is truly in the closet, he is the only person who is holding himself in. Of course, Jake maybe wanting a career more than standing up for the gays doesn't gel with the perfect persona you have created for him.
And for those lovely insiders, if Jake honestly doesn't care about the rumors, then it follows suit that he also doesn't care about the crap attached to it, and the hurtful things that have come his friend's way. In that case, Austin would be smart to be well rid of Jake.
Austin has done nothing wrong. In fact, the only thing he has done wrong is been unfortunate enough to become friends with the one actor with the most ridiculous and hypocritical fanbase.
Don't mind differences of opinions but like to have a name to put to opinion. That way we know who to put on the list of names bar bill later.
^^And sometimes even my own stuff has to get shelved for a rewrite.
You know to have to go throw all of this and still be together, it is the real deal.
Love, like a river, will cut a new path
whenever it meets an obstacle.
^oops threw not throw
^damn it "through"
Austin has done nothing wrong. In fact, the only thing he has done wrong is been unfortunate enough to become friends with the one actor with the most ridiculous and hypocritical fanbase.
Wow, so well-written, and valid. This is why the vitriol aimed at WFT is hypocritical too. Because if it's coming out at a blog it was there to begin with, waiting. They can say that discussing an actor's sexuality and private life is wrong and hypocritical (except, only when it's about gay stuff, never hypocritical about how many fake girlfriends he's had) but you know that that dismissal and dislike of gay issues was there anyway, it had to be. So when IS a good time to talk about it? Never, in the eyes of some, and when others do want to talk about it it's therefore never the right time.
Well, that's democracy for you. If they don't want to discuss these things they don't have to but they shouldn't make out others are freaks for discussing it. As long as things stay respectful and calm then what's the problem? Some of us don't see the possibility of being gay or bisexual as a crime. Why should it be pushed under the carpet, it's not as if Jake has said he minds and I believe the words "flattered" were used.
For those JFC watchers still bewildered and confused by the series finale last week - no Big and Huge, ever again *sob* - here's a bit of information from a man who worked on the JFC set. He is a regular poster over on the HBO boards and has provided insight to the show through his unique perspective.
Unclemajohn said:
9-11-14
According to David, 9-11-14 deals with a story line in which there was going to be a attempt of a genocide against the Muslims. "Those towel heads are going to get themselves eradicated." The whole purpose of John's visit was to create an "army" to prevent this from happening.
Cissy is the glue of a family that no matter how fucked up it gets, she protects it and keeps it together. She would be the glue that holds the purpose, the army of those against the genocide together.
Cass is the visionary who is also the media to get the word out that danger is lurking.
Mitch was the spokesman (PSA's) who would do the talking, there by getting back into the game.
Linc is the corporation and money who the world would take seriously and listen to. He is the spin doctor.
Barry, Ramon and Dickstein are the three wise men, brought together at the Snug Harbor, a scruffy dirty place sort of like a barn were a young Jesus now lives.
Shaun is a Jesus.
Freddy and Palaka are warriors to do battle against the enemy.
Bill is the law, and a General.
Doc, well, he's the doctor who initially was going to help the poor from latiin America. Joe was going to smuggle them into the country for Doc to work on. There was once a whole story point about the Doc helping children with hairlip malformations.
tid bit: During the "parade" there was a man on the side walk who told Tina that he would jerk off to her movies. That was an incarnate of Mr. Rollins. When John started talking back to him, berating him, Mr. Rollins was suppose to turn into a pile of dust. Digitally of course.
If only Milch had been able to continue. I guess to HBO intelligent programing doesn't mean dick.
Here's a Link to the Boards should you wish to peruse for yourselves.
Oh boy me, thanks for that info! So they sent John home before he could start recruiting? Very interesting...
By the way me, can you enlighten me about the meaning of your name? Is it the abbreviation of Maine or are you just me, like, errr, me as in me, myself and I. Do you get me, me? Shit, I need coffee!!! I really enjoy your posts by the way.
Special could you let me know if you are receiving my emails? I would love to hear what you think?
About the “Austin vs. Jake/Jake vs. Austin” fights (thanks again Me for the link): I don’t get them either as they’re totally pointless and misguided IMO (at least from what I’ve seen of and heard about J&A). Both are ambitious and want to make it as actors. Their paths may be different but their aim is the same as their respective behavior makes it abundantly clear. They’re apparently ready to take whatever good and bad come with their professional target. HW is not for the weak of heart, you have to be a pretty damn tough SOB (*notice my affectionate tone*) to avoid being made mincemeat by that heartless star-making/breaking machine. And to survive you make popular as well as unpopular decisions.
I wouldn’t be here if I thought Jake and Austin were sweet irreproachable angels. I don’t believe in angels and if they existed they’d probably bore me to death (tee-hee-hee). And I might be wrong but in my book J&A do not quite qualify as “victims”.
I just love them as actors, their (personal) story reflects an extraordinary intriguing phenomenon which is the HW closet, the result of the undeniable homophobia of our society, the refusal to acknowledge the increasing readiness of the public to accept homosexuality or at least the financial benefits that could be derived from the gay and gay-friendly audience and the extraordinary narrow-mindedness of salesmen, which are, after all, the true foundation of modern HW. Of course, the fact that Jaustin is still an item after all these years (at least this is what I believe/think/speculate, etc.) has hit a soft spot in my Cartesian heart and I’d be a liar if I said that their personal saga doesn’t pique my interest, LOL!
Ok enough with Sunday sermons. Like I said I did some catching up during the last few days (have not finished yet) and I noticed the doubts some have expressed about Rendition. Well, I just can’t-wait-for-Rendition! I just loved the trailer. I know, I know these are cut fast and crispy and are not telling the whole picture but this flick is chock-full of great actors, the subject is just heart-wrenching to me (did you check the Maher Arar link I posted in the “Joe Namath” thread?) and Jake just looks and sounds great in it.
It's rather cold over here, summer is going, going and soon will be gone. But it's sunny and I wish you all a great Sunday!
Tom
Thank you for your emails. Sorry it has been a little crazy for me. : )
Check your email.
I would like to compliment and to thank K Special and Wicked for this fantastic Blog! Love graphics, unfortunately my bad English causes I will not constantly participate but I will always read the trees, thanks
No, Frenchy, it doesn't stand for the postal abbreviation of Maine. Nor for anything else.
Someone asked on another blog, "Hey! Who's that post from?"
And I answered - "It was from me."
Thus the name. Also, only two letters to type, being the lazy ass that I am sometimes.
Glad you're back!
Yeah Giusi-poo
Thanks for stopping by and glad you like what you see.
OMG! is a community effort and everyone is encouraged to participate contribute or suggest what they would like to see.
Maybe you will let OMG showcase your awesome videos.
Thus the name. Also, only two letters to type, being the lazy ass that I am sometimes.
LOL! I was hoping for that kind of answers! ;)
Hey Giusi nice to see you around. Don't worry about your English, I don't think anybody has problems understanding what you mean!
Special, do you think it would be a good idea to add DC to the "Places We Go" section? It's a great site with very interesting threads.
Good suggestion new day. I will see about putting up a link.
Jake: "It is nice to walk into a room and people think you are unbalanced. It is a nice feeling."
Wow. How many of us have this "nice feeling" frequently?
I found this on JW. And sorry special I'll try to find a name for my next post.
RUNNING JAKE
Jake: "It is nice to walk into a room and people think you are unbalanced. It is a nice feeling."
Wow. How many of us have this "nice feeling" frequently?
Ah, ah, not me! Last time people felt I was unbalanced was when I tripped over a wiener dog in a shopping center.
Find a Name/7:15
Thank you for sharing that video with OMG.
Pick a name for a post, an hour, a day or week. We just love having people slap on a name tag and join in the party.
A little unbalanced can be fun. Because no one knows what you are really up too. Keep 'em guessing Jake keep 'em guessing.
Tom: I am sure Jake Gyllenhaal will be around for a long time, and his fandom will evolve and grow, just like him. There will be memorable milestones, and OMG is one such. I, therefore, urge you not to misconstrue this as a divide or a schism. As long as we all enjoy his personality and talent, we are in harmony.
On a lighter note; Special: how do we allure Austi Spumanti and gyllenhaul his ass out here? If he lurks, hey dude, say something!
I don't know about Austi Spumanti he maybe busy with his man.
And really would that be a bad thing?
Reese brought her kids across the country for a vacation but really to tryst with Jake?? You have to be kidding. Is she planning on marrying Jake? Why drag kids into this?
11:04
Well those are questions we don't have answers for. And I don't know if we are supposed to know the answers either.
What name can we call you? As you can tell we like names, it helps keep the bar bills straight at the end of the night.
I've been in situations similar to this where I've dated divorced men with kids and let me tell you, they (the guys I dated) would NEVER have allowed a situation where they were on vacation with their children and I was nearby for them to tryst with--at least not so early in the relationship. Is Reese planning on marrying Jake? She's not even divorced yet. Their behavior is weird and if Ryan is complaining, I don't blame him. I doubt he would drag his kids to vacation with him while Abbie Cornish or whomever waits to rendezvous with him nearby. You don't do that unless you're serious and you've been with your bf/gf for awhile but this gal isn't even divorced.
By the way, I don't mean to sound like a prissy polyanna but I've been through situations similar to this as has my brother (who has two minor kids) and friends of mine so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Not to mention that if the Toothy Tile items are accurate (I think they mostly are), then really Toothy (Jake) had a hot tryst with his boyfriend in an area where they were seen by some other folks. So if Jake and Reese are somewhat real, then he's cheating on her big time. Which actually makes me happy because I think she's an obnoxiously self-entitled snob (but then again, so is Jake's mother I hear and supposedly we are always attracted to people who remind us of relatives or parents).
Very strange and suspicious situation this is.
Well, speaking as a single mother, there is no way that a person still embroiled in a custody battle would take their children across the country to be with their lover. No way in hell. In contentious divorces, every move is watched, examined and scrutinized as potential ammunition in court. Even the most innocuous thing can, and often is, used to win.
Don't care if the houses are across the island from each other, don't care if the two parties aren't together when the kids are around. The mere fact that Reese is there with the kids and Jake is too, it would be a huge blunder that any good divorce attorney could exploit. And in the fact that EVERYONE now knows she and the kids visited MV, and that EVERYONE now knows that she was there to be with Jake, makes this vacation either an outrageously ballsy Up Yours! to Ryan, or a huge miscalculation that could ultimately backfire.
Reese isn't that stupid, nor would she gamble with her children in such a cavalier manner. She probably received the invitation from the Belushi's to come east, and knowing what a PR boost it would be to seen there at the Gyllenhaal summer hang out spot, she accepted.
Reese's divorce became final a short while ago. So I don't see what the problem is.
Can someone explain it to me.
12:04, exactly. My current bf (who is divorced and has a daughter) and my brother have both had custody issues with their respective exes. To do something like this is so incredibly stupid. Even if this is a great PR boost, it's still ammunition for Ryan to use against her. But clearly she feels self-entitled. I wonder if she would feel that way if Ryan did this. I guess not. And you can bet the rags that lionize Reese for breathing would skewer Ryan if he did this.
dara your last sentence is very very true.
I was looking thru old BV of Ted's on Fanchitchat the other night and I went back to the first few TT BIs and in Ted's mailbag, he answered two questions asking if Orlando Bloom was TT. He mentioned that he'd had quite a few replies thinking it was OB and I'm guessing that's why he took him out of the equation straight away.
It kind of goes against those who think Toothy isn't Jake but that Ted just leaves him as a possibility to get back at Jake.
Dara, i think it is a bit insulting to call Jake's mom a obnoxiously self-entitled snob when you have not even met the woman. As for Reese, Ryan and the kids, how do you know what is giong on with the custody agreement? You seem to be making opinions and judgements without having a clue of what is really going on. Neither Reese or Ryan are saints, but I don't get that they are bad parents. They seem to love and care for their kids.
tbs, dara did say "I hear" and "I think". It's her opinion, you don't have to agree but she wasn't asking you to. ;)
In essence I agree that assuming things about Jake's parents are unneccessary because few people will really know them and often character gossip is passed on third or fourth hand based on hearsay or maybe one bad experience with a person that then gets amplified and become sout of proportion.
As a TB I've always gone easy on Jake's parents, I don't know them or their motivations and they're his folks, when all's said and done. I'm not really interested in discussing their lives. Let's leave that to the Broadwing troll and it's ott, know-it-all approach.
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