There have been some really really good things this past year, it's just how you look at it.
Jake and Austin out biking, their coordinating biking gear, The Austin smile on Jake's face, Big Blue, seeing Austin as a regular on TV, Brothers, Jake joking with the press, The Austiny tie and style but not on Austin, the Clint Black/Jack Twist t-shirt, both going Global Green, Jake's childish behavior for Electric Company,Sesame Street, and Shalom Sesame, necklaces chains and charms, Prayers for Bobby, confirmation of still going strong, Mr. & Mr. Toothy, friends saying they are the real deal, Jake's mention of Sasquatchy friends, Austin's posts on SoGoPro, The True Love Tail of Boyfriend and Girlfriend, Jake in Pittsburgh hell even Informers had its good things, and yes the split from Ms. W are just some of those things I know I have cherished because that's what keeps me going as the person who writes here everyday. I'm sure I missed some, what else can you think of? 
It's more than you thought and less than you wish for, but they are all good things, and the numbers of how many of them that happened doesn't take away from how good each of them are. 
You have to decide what you want to focus on. For me, I need my glass is half full, but don't think for a minute I wouldn't want it full and overflowing. I'd love that. But I appreciate the half full glass I have right now.
And waiting for the next thing? I look at it this way, I don't spend my time everyday waiting for what's going to happen next, because I would miss out on so many great things that happen in between.
Photos: IHJ, ANJ, SoGoPro, OMG
Tuesday, December 29, 2009
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Another good thing this year was the release of the PoP trailer. I'll CERTAINLY be going to see it, and Jake won't have to parade the beard around in the lead up to PoP.
It's official. Jake and Maggie's parents are divorced.
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I will not be a hypocrite. I will not saying anything about bearding, because
I was a beard.
I was a beard for a friend in college. It was done out of love and care for my friend.
We attended a very conservative Christian college, which meant that he would have been expelled from college, lose his scholarship money, and at that time would have become estranged from his family.
That's a lot to lose at that age and time. And I didn't want to lose my friend and I had long family ties and I was a daughter and granddaughter of trustees to the school. It wasn't a long time but it was enough to get him through the school year.
He graduated went to grad school, and found a successful career. During that time, it became the right time for him, to come out to his family, friends and eventually be an out and proud gay man in the community. He has a wonderful life with a man who loves him and they have a wonderful family.
I'm not sorry for what I did, because I helped a friend who needed help, and wasn't ready to come out yet.
Bearding to help a friend and bearding for a few dollars more are two very different things.
There is a HUGE difference between what Jake has done and what you did Special, covering for a teenage boy who probably had no other means of support than his family and a scholarship from a college like that. Plus I am assuming based on what shows and music you have said you grew up on that this happened well over a decade ago.
Jake was 27, presumably had the support of his family and close friends, had made BBM, which, among other things, required him to get down on all fours, and had already made more money than most people will make in their entire life (he supposedly got $3 million just for Jarhead).
Not to mention that people like Jake bearding and not coming out contributes to the homophobic atmosphere that caused your friend so much grief.
I find it difficult to believe anyone would think the two situations are the same.
One more thing. If there really is a Baby Tile, it is even more mind-boggling to me to say that it is understandable that man who is supposedly enough of an adult and has the resources to raise a child with his boyfriend needs to beard.
It is wrong wrong wrong to raise a child that way.
Boy, I know I've said it before, but I can't believe we're talking about Jake like this while Ricky Martin is proudly showing off his children and speaking out against homophobia, something I bet he was inspired to do after that horrible murder of a gay Puerto Rican boy. Not that it got any coverage in the mainstream press, because well, I assume, he was Puerto Rican.
Not that Ricky is out, but he has never ever bearded despite all the rumors about him.
Oops. Destiny, you may want to look up Rebecca de Alba. Ricky Martin' "longtime on again off again girlfriend". Yeah.
Well technically, bearding is bearding. I think what Special did is a great thing - under the circumstances, no different than the Underground Railroad or the WWII Resistance, Martin Luther King or Ghandi's nonviolent opposition. You do what you can when social rules are morally wrong. I applaud Special in this case. In a perfect world, the concept of bearding is wrong - but we don't live in a vacuum.
Secondly, we don't know for sure what Jake's circumstances are; if we did, then I'd say some of us are justified in our opinions, but until we know for sure, it's not fair to condemn him, nor hold him to a higher standard than we have for ourselves. We don't know anything about it - whether it's simply a matter of making more money, or if he's held to heavier constraints than the average person in HW, or if he's even doing it all, if he even has a child, etc. Not worth the time wasted nor emotional effort expended simply for speculation only, no facts. I'm here because I'm a fan of J&A, just as was stated in the previous post - everything else is up for discussion, but I don't think he should be condemned when we don't have all the facts. I do separate an actor's work from his personal life most of the time if possible - depending on the magnitude of what they have done i.e. Roman Polanski, OJ Simpson, Chris Brown. We have facts for those people.
It's his right to screw up his life if he wants, if he is doing it. Also, talking about Reese or a different woman being with him in no way condones bearding, it's just talk and blogging IMO.
Well, looks like I was wrong on that one. I've never heard of her, never seen pictures of them together. It supposedly ended in 2005. Any beards after that? I am guessing not, since I have been following internet gossip since early 2006.
But again Ricky popped into my head when thinking about the possibility of BT. As far as I can see Ricky has not bearded since having children, so he is doing right by those children. He's not hiding them, not hanging out with a beard instead of his kids.
He has also spoken up very vocally about gay rights, something Jake has never done. Hell, his people tripped all over themselves in their haste to deny he was at a charity event for an organization largely associated with gay men and AIDS. In other words, I see no evidence that Jake has changed since breaking up with the beard. Ricky clearly did.
We know plenty about Jake. But go ahead, keep excusing homophobic behavior because Jake might have to make a few movies that don't pay as much as the $7 million dollars for PoP. In this case money does not justify what he is doing. That's like saying it is just justified to knock over a bank or running off with someone's life savings ala Bernie Madoff because we just don't know what is going on that person's life.
I wanted to comment on this post from you yesterday, Tom:
Stubborn I dont think anyone labeled the first set of biking pics as a photo op. Everyone was thrilled beyond belief. When the second set of biking pics came out it did seem like a photo op since they stopped at end of a gated community to pose. Of course it was an attempt to show they were coming out of reese house. I do believe that was damage control.
The second set of biking pics weren't in front of Reeses gated community and neither did they stop there to make it look that way. If that was the intention don't you think they would have had people bill that set as in having been taken in Brentwood?
I said it back when the pics came out but was ignored, so I'll say it again: those pics were not taken in Brentwood and neither did they make people think so by mislabeling them.
I know people like to pretend that they did, because otherwise you'd have to give Jake a break for just one day, but that doesn't make it true.
Hell, his people tripped all over themselves in their haste to deny he was at a charity event for an organization largely associated with gay men and AIDS.
Given that there are so many coincidences pointing right to Reese it's highly likely he wasn't at that charity.
So should he let his people lie about being at a charity when he wasn't just so he can look gay-friendly? How is that in any way helpful?
Yes, but again, we know for sure about Bernie Madoff, we don't about Jake. And noone is excusing homophobic behavior for dollars or any other reason. Maybe you know more than I do, but I was speaking for myself and others who don't know. Please enlighten us if you have facts.
And while we're at it, lets just ignore all those people Special features in the Out Spotlight every week, because they don't matter in the scheme of things either, right? They were just too dumb to realize you shouldn't put doing the right thing and personal integrity over money and universal acceptance.
I don't think he should be condemned when we don't have all the facts
Jake's bearding wasn't a scientific experiment, we will never have all the facts, PR team and other people who work for Jake are paid to hide them. It is Jake's right to screw up his life if he wants, it is our right to have an opinion and discuss it as much as we like.
No need for grandstanding , blowing smoke or exaggerated closing arguments to make a point - good lawyers don't need to do those things when they have facts on their side. The Out Spotlight people are wonderful and we all know it. I don't know if Jake is 1) bearding 2) gay 3) a parent - but those things all may be true.
I don't know if Jake is 1) bearding 2) gay 3) a parent - but those things all may be true.
Your problem, other people are capable of forming an opinion.
Discussing and condemning are two different things. Some are condemning him as dishonest and bearding when we don't have any facts to back it up - just theatrics. It doesn't have to be a scientific experiement, a court trial, a hanging judge, or anything. Discussion is simply discussion without blaming or punishing.
My 2 Cents,
you don't decide what OMG posters think or post. Think what you want and let others discuss and condemn bearding and homophobia it they feel like it.
Hell, his people tripped all over themselves in their haste to deny he was at a charity event for an organization largely associated with gay men and AIDS.
Given that there are so many coincidences pointing right to Reese it's highly likely he wasn't at that charity.
What points to Reese?
There is no proof yet that Jakes bearding was due to anything but greed. Yes Destiny Jake is a wealthy man and could have walked away from it all when he saw what wrong was being done. Lets hope he has finally realized it. But my bet at this point was that particular contract was over and it was time for him to move down a different but similiar path. Hope not but time will tell.
He's only been "broken up" for a few weeks - give him a chance to change. You're right, everyone is entitled to form an opinion - but I would hope they could distinguish from knowing for sure and not knowing for sure before they cast blame. I don't have a problem with anybody's opinion until it becomes irrational hatred, which I thought most sensible people are against. I don't know why his people came out with a statement about his not being at the charity, or what that means for sure.
I would love to know of other times when a publicist has denied their client was at a charity event. I could be wrong, but I just don't recall that ever happening. And we're talking about Jake here, whose publicist rarely comments on anything he does. So why now??
you don't decide what OMG posters think or post. Think what you want and let others discuss and condemn bearding and homophobia it they feel like it.
I don't and didn't. Let's get this "straight", I comdemn bearding and homophobia as well, and I will discuss when I feel like it too - I just need to know the person actually did it before I accuse someone of it. "Nice Try" tho. You don't get to tell me what to talk about either.
"you don't decide what OMG posters think or post. Think what you want and let others discuss and condemn bearding and homophobia it they feel like it."
Yeah let condemn a man they don't know.
"We know plenty about Jake."
I guess you have his number?
Do not feed the trolls
Do not feed the trolls
Do not feed the trolls
What points to Reese?
I believe we have pointed those things out back when the story came out even before it was denied by his rep.
I'm not going to start that all over again.
I was willing to cut Jake some slack until his rep was so quick to deny he had any association with a gay charity and dancing with boys. Not to mention ever damn time I've been in a store in the past two weeks I've had to see that US Reekly cover.
Nothing points to Reese, Reese can only be pissed off with "Jake dancing, partying and having a great time" sighting just few days after her Us Weekly "Jake heartbroken and devastated" PR bullshit.
I am not following this. Reese's rep could not have denied a story about Jake. If the denial was because of Reese, well, it just shows nothing has changed.
The more I think about it, the more I think it has to do with the dancing and hanging out with guys. Looks too gay. Jake's rep couldn't deny he was hanging with just guys and dancing with them without giving away what they were up to, so they just denied he was ever there.
Malkin seemed truly puzzled about the denial, and seemed to be saying he trusted his source, who continued to insist he was there.
I believe Malkin was also the one that said that Reeke sat around a fireplace looking so much in love.
He was also the one that placed Reese at a concert after Ted had hinted at Austin being there with Jake after them having spent the day before it together.
Like I said before Reese is getting slammed all over the place for the comments attributed to her in US Weekly about Jake not being mature enough for her kids.
The biggest thing people point out when they say this is that Jake tended not to be out partying.
So again: it helps Reeses image when Jake is believed to be out partying, because it validates her comments.
And being out partying also doesn't mean he isn't "devastated and heartbroken", it's exactly the same angle used with Ryan, he's just partying the pain away.
And also it made her trip to NYC talk-worthy, if the story about Jake hadn't come out no one would have cared. And not just that, people would have focused a lot more on the fact that she spent Christmas states away from her kids.
I didn't know she was in NY!
Thre is nothing wrong with some CHARITY party, nothing to make Jake look bad.
Reese made sure that eveyone finds out about her trip to NYC but no one cared about Reese being in NYC nor Reese spending Christmas states away from her kids.
I think there were two different concerts, one with Jake and some guy pals, and one that Reese was supposedly at.
Reeke could have been putting on a show at that Rufus party, or their reps planted it. But at that time they were supposedly an item.
But no way is Malkin going to run with something about Jake from Reese's rep after they have broken up. Gossip columnists may do pr's bidding, but they are not fools.
It is hard to cut Jake some slack. We just dont know which Jake we are gonna see next. Most likely it will be some PR/studio driven persona just without reese. I think the party denial attests to that. It is the first signal we have had post reeke. He sure relies on their advice. I dont think anyone has a clue to who any young star may be. They are products of companies.
Just watched Pattison on Ellen. Everyone thinks that he is just running around the world with his supposen GF but on Ellen it comes out that he is traveling with his whole family with him. He is just a boy whose whole life has changed so quickly. I think thats who Jake was after BBM but now he is almost 30. Time to grow up and live his life. Damn Jude Law doesnt even know how many kids he has. I hope Jake isnt headed that way.
I don't think Jake was even in NY and that may be the reason for the denial, in fact you have not seen Jake at all since shopping in West Hollywood.
I think the had his own plans and kept them. I don't think the denial was a slight to the charity because if you read the rest of the statement it recognizes the charity and its works.
I don't think he was there and he also didn't want it to appear that he was in New York at the same time as Reese so that people could speculate that they would be getting back together. I don't think he had any intention of being NYC. I think he had plans somewhere else and definitely with Austin and family.
I think he is busy while Austin is on break and that you may see him after Austin goes back work or not until the charity event in NYC.
Another good thing I forgot:
Getting see Jake's real glasses in the ad for Needy Eyes.
oh another one, little steps wherever they leave their mark
Think 2010 has to be a glass half full year, be positive folks. Have a great new year everyone and thanks for all the great posts Special :)*
Mark Malkin was polite, but he did call Jake's reps liars: Gyllenhaal's rep says that the actor wasn't in NYC on Saturday. Even so, our sources continue to insist they saw him at the event.
Great post today. Lots of good things to remember and some nice pictures too. I do think Jake has taken a step in the right direction by dumping the beard. It remains to be seen what will come next.
I don't spend my time everyday waiting for what's going to happen next, because I would miss out on so many great things that happen in between.
How true. How uncommon.
Now, if only Cate Blanchett were Irene Adler, that would be another great thing, in between.
In fairness, I have to agree with those of you who said that Special's helping a friend years before could be understandable, when things were much more difficult than they are today, whether because of employment discrimination or for personal safety reasons. You'd be hardpressed to find a reason to excuse it today. But you never know what someone's situation is. My only problem is that we're being very harsh on Jake when we don't know for sure what's going on. Bernie Madoff was convicted of a crime, Jake hasn't. The beard's gone, let's just be happy about that and give him a chance, I say. To me, the charity event is a very positive thing - I don't know what the denials are all about.
Two Cents
"just saw austin nichols from that Jon from Cincinnati show...he's so damn cute, too bad he's taken..
10:34 AM Dec 28th"
This post is for Destiny, Tom and Special K. Let's be fair here, because I agree with My 2 cents comments. Anyone reading my comments for some time now, know that I give Jake some slack all the time because I'm not certain he is gay / bi or was bearding since I (Do believe he and Kirsten was real). I have a very Strong FEELING that he is not Straight though, but Bisexual. Now the question to you 3 is: Do any of you have deffinate Proof of Jake being GAY? I am not talking about Ted speak and I am not talking about a STRONG feeling. If any one of you adamately say ((YES)), I will believe you and understand your disaproval of his actions, but maybe not to the same extent.
I don't know, maybe you all have some real proof and don't want to share it with others who are not apart of the clique, and If so, I can respect that. But as a logical thinking person I cannot get overly uspet about what's going on in his life or what he's being accused of by Destiny and Tom. Sure I can say I think Jake is gay or bi and maybe he was bearding, but just as 2 cents stated. how can you or anyone condemn Jake or anyone when there seems to be NO DEFFINATE CONCRET REAL PROOF?
It seems as logical as the infamous Salem Witch hunts. From what I read there were many killed on pure speculation because the strongest and loudest voice accused them.
I can't and won't be a part of this type of thinking because it is also a type of bigotry, prejudice, hate and racism.
Falsely Accusing someone because of a suspision is wrong!
I ask again you 3 people again, do you have REAL EVIDENCE of Jake being Gay that you do not feel to share with the posters on this site. Pro Jake Gay or Pro Jake Not Gay.
Sorry Ted does not count.
He talks in riddles too much.
"Convinced Maggie Gyllenhal & I r cosmically connected. I don't often see (or dont notice) celebs, but today was my 2nd time running into her
about 15 hours ago
Oops my phone died. But to continue the story, we were walking along Highline Park with Maggie & Jake Gyllenhal + her kid + 2 other actors!
about 6 hours ago
http://twitter.com/DawnYang1"
had made BBM, which, among other things, required him to get down on all fours,
Destiny, I really think this comment was a cheap shot. I can name a long list of supposed straight actors who played gay roles who did the equivelent to Jake's Jack role and some actors did much more which the role called for.
I could easily see and hear some complaining and criticizing him if he would not have done what he did for the role. As Will Smith did when he refused a kissing scene in 6 Degrees of Separation. He was thinking about his fanbase.
Three years of bearding with Reese Witherspoon is proof enough that Jake is GAY.
There is nothing wrong with being gay, your BS about Salem Witch hunt is disgusting homophobia.
Former TB do you have any proof that Jake isnt Gay. Do you have any proof that Jake and Kiki were real.
I am a little confused with what u meant in ur last pargraph. Are u saying that some of us thinking that Jake is gay is like a witch hunt. Being gay or bi isnt the issue. Bearding and lying is. Yes So I need to know if you including being gay as your crime or bearding as ur crime. If u are comparing being gay as the crime u r the one who should be compared to a rasict or a bigot.
The Salem witch hunts were genocide, pure and simple. These people were pagans; justified in their freedom of religion as any - but since they were not Christian, they either had to convert or be killed. Their beliefs were vilified and made evil - i.e. vilifying the number 13 and their woodland God turned into a Satanic figure, which wasn't true at all. Same as with the Native Americans and their beliefs. Genocide. No different than Nazi Germany, only they perfected genocide. It is not homophobic to compare accusing someone without proof to witchhunts.
We have tons of PROOF that Jake was bearding, lying and faking.
Tom, I don't know about FormerTB, but I clearly stated that lying and bearding was the so-called "crime", not being gay itself, certainly not! I tried to be as clear as possible because I knew someone would try that tired, untrue tactic.
Tom, YOU did NOT answer the question I Asked you!
Now I'll answer yours.
Former TB do you have any proof that Jake isnt Gay. Do you have any proof that Jake and Kiki were real.
NO..
I am a little confused with what u meant in ur last pargraph. Are u saying that some of us thinking that Jake is gay is like a witch hunt. Being gay or bi isnt the issue. Bearding and lying is. Yes So I need to know if you including being gay as your crime or bearding as ur crime.
Tom, you're getting caught up again in the accusations (YOU) have about what's going on in Jake's life.
No! I am saying Falsely accusing someone of something that has NOT been Proven. People were accused of being witches in Salem and it has beeen documented that some were put to death only because of suspision. Such as You accusing Jake of being Gay and Bearding if you do not Have concrete evidence. I have NO concrete evidence on either.
So I ask you again Do YOU?
I am not green and I do realize that many men and women beard in HW for whatever reason. This may or may not include Jake, but I will not accuse him and state it as (fact) simply on (MY) suspision.
This may or may not include Jake, but I will not accuse him and state it as (fact) simply on (MY) suspision.
So don't. Why would we care what you do or want us to do?
^^Because they (FormerTB) has a right to speak. I know that Special and OMG try very hard to avoid that kind of Groupthink. Who are you speaking for?
That's just it, I don't know if Jake is straight and Kiki was real, nor do I know for sure if Jake is gay and Austin is real. I'm cheering for Jake and Austin tho. It's all up for discussion, all opinions are valid. What bothers me is the anger and punishing attitudes. I could sorta understand if we knew for sure, but we dont.
Such as You accusing Jake of being Gay and Bearding ...
I know that Special and OMG try very hard to avoid that kind of Groupthink.
You are wrong, OMG posters don't have a problem with Jake is gay opinion, only trolls can't accept that.
but I don't think he should be condemned when we don't have all the facts.
2 cents I appologize if I mistated your comments. I take the comment (all the facts) literally since you are stating that you / we do not have all the facts. Does this not include Jake being Gay? It makes me no difference if Jake is Gay or Straight. I am a fan of his and I will see his movies. I've already seen "Brothers", and liked it.
This is what I don't understand about your comment:
I knew someone would try that tired, untrue tactic.
You don't know me and I don't know you My 2 cents or 2 cents. Not a tactic at all. And I stand by my damn statement. I repeat, Sorry to use your statements or what I thought you were saying, it won't happen again. So ask you the same question I asked the others.
This should be easy since you already know that we don't have all the facts on one issue.
The Insider just name their Top 5 sexiest men of 2009, and Jake is number 5. Lara Spencer seems to really like how he looks in PoP.
Tom, YOU did NOT answer the question I Asked you!
Why would anyone waste time on answering your questions? Why would anyone care about your opinion?
It is not homophobic to compare accusing someone without proof to witchhunts.
The issuse was not about being homophobic, it was about FALSELY ACCUSING someone. That's it! And they were falsely accused of being witches for whatever alternative reason the accusors had for accusing them.
If someone is falsely accusing a celebrity or anyone of being a certain way, when the accusor does not have real evidence or the facts to support it, or even seen (real evidence), it's falsely accusing someone. No matter how you choose to spin it.
Former, I didn't mean you. I agree with your comments for the most part about calling someone a liar and bearding without knowing for sure. I know that your world "accuse" was taken out of context. I know there are those who would ingenuously use the homophobe argument to (try) and divide posters. I was defending your right to speak. They really ought to be ashamed of making light of a serious subject to prove their own point, whatever it may be. He's no longer with Reese, but that isn't enough for some. They want him to pay forever by having his films turn out to be flops for some unknown reason.
Why would anyone waste time on answering your questions? Why would anyone care about your opinion?
Wow Tom, I thought more of you than that, really.
So I take that as a NO.
Why would anyone care about your opinion?
have you asked YOURSELF this question Tom? hmmm
The questions I asked were real and valid, but of course,
NO Answers Says Alot.
Have a Happy New Year
Former TB no I haved no proof that Gay is Gay.
But I dont think that believing someone is Gay is an accusation. I belive it is a dream of mine that is pure and sweet. I think Jake is Gay. So am I. No witchhunt here.
Personally, I would be thrilled if J&A are real, and I believe they are too. I'm just waiting for when they say so. I'm hoping this will be the end of the bearding for good.
If that was not you Tom at 7:25 pm I take that comment back. Sorry.
Happy New Year
"Former Tber",
We have tons of PROOF that Jake was bearding, lying and faking.
You choose to ignore everything from the last 3 years, so all you can do is spin "but we don't have real evidence, how dare you have bad opinions about Jakey". Same old trolling story.
They want him to pay forever by having his films turn out to be flops for some unknown reason.
OMG, you are 12! lol
^^Missed what you said in ur last comment. Former. That wasnt me who posted whta u just accused me of. It was probably u who answered for me.
I again Have NO proof that Jake is Gay and you have NO proff Jake is straight. I repeat for me believing someone is gay is not an accusation. Only a Homophobe would say that.
^^ if that wasnt you who posted the reply I also apologise former. But i do think ur using the word accusation and gay is wrong.
Happy New Year to you also and I mean that.
The Insider just name their Top 5 sexiest men of 2009, and Jake is number 5. Lara Spencer seems to really like how he looks in PoP.
Which picture did they use with it? Or was it that video of Jake and his abs in all their glory? ;)
Sorry LOL, I meant to say "disinguenously" in my comment above.
I agreee with whomever said that the last 2 to 3 yrs of bearding is probably the best proof we have that Jake is Gay. It was so phony and so poorly executed. Jake needs to fire his bearding choreographers.
Hey,
Just checked the last post to see if anyone commented on what I said yesterday. Yes Tom it is me, check it out if you want to.
Heard some little kids today talking about PoP...also the person who I was with at the movie theater was disscussing it with me. Nice to hear. I saw Avatar...I'm not a huge fan. For me it is a mixture of Ferngully, Pochahontas, Terminator, and the matrix all mixed in one. Graphics fine, but story has been done before.
As for the charity thing. I don't think the reps called to deny that he was there. It was more likely that they called the reps to see what Jake contributed to the event (if he did or didn't) and then said he was not there.
You guys are very good at only looking at one side. That is the main reason I left here. I was realizing that this could very well turn into a community that only has one point of view and you guys proved me right(most of you anyways).
I really don't understand the reason for you guys to have Jake come out (if he is gay). Yes I understand it would mean the WORLD to some of you but there are other out movie stars that you should be focusing your time on. Just because they are not in Jakes age bracket or Jakes movie status means nothing. It just shows me that you need a big face and name in acting that you can attach yourself too. Leaving behind all the other out actors.
I don't know if Jake is gay or not, nor do I care. I just love watching him act. I'll give him the 9 cents he will make off of me watching his movie. Works for me. Plus he is gorgeous. I seperate the person from the work always. Sorry but I enjoy Chris Brown new single. Now, will I go out and buy the CD...no, but enjoy the song on tv and radio, yes. Could care less if Jake is bearding, wont make him act worse.
Someone before was talking about Adam lambert and how happy they are that he is out and proud. Well lovely, but did you also hear him say that he does not want to be a role model for the gay community at all. I did not see anyone jump down his throat for that. Seeing that he is a big name in entertainment in the moment (due to circumstances)and that he should be attempting to be a role model. Instead you get upset that a guy who is not even out (possibly does't want to be out), doesn't step forward and become a role model. I'm sorry but you guys are just backwards.
And no I am not gay, so most likely you guys will say that I can't relate. but I do have gay friends. One that was up until very recently in an abusive relationship emotionally and physically. I'm sure you guys have bigger things to worry about then Jake frigign Gyllenhaal being gay.
And no need to tell me 'why did you come back' 'why should I care about your opinion" BS that, that same person posts all the time. This will not become a continuous thing, but I will check things out later.
Hey,
Just checked the last post to see if anyone commented on what I said yesterday. Yes Tom it is me, check it out if you want to.
Heard some little kids today talking about PoP...also the person who I was with at the movie theater was disscussing it with me. Nice to hear. I saw Avatar...I'm not a huge fan. For me it is a mixture of Ferngully, Pochahontas, Terminator, and the matrix all mixed in one. Graphics fine, but story has been done before.
As for the charity thing. I don't think the reps called to deny that he was there. It was more likely that they called the reps to see what Jake contributed to the event (if he did or didn't) and then said he was not there.
You guys are very good at only looking at one side. That is the main reason I left here. I was realizing that this could very well turn into a community that only has one point of view and you guys proved me right(most of you anyways).
I really don't understand the reason for you guys to have Jake come out (if he is gay). Yes I understand it would mean the WORLD to some of you but there are other out movie stars that you should be focusing your time on. Just because they are not in Jakes age bracket or Jakes movie status means nothing. It just shows me that you need a big face and name in acting that you can attach yourself too. Leaving behind all the other out actors.
I don't know if Jake is gay or not, nor do I care. I just love watching him act. I'll give him the 9 cents he will make off of me watching his movie. Works for me. Plus he is gorgeous. I seperate the person from the work always. Sorry but I enjoy Chris Brown new single. Now, will I go out and buy the CD...no, but enjoy the song on tv and radio, yes. Could care less if Jake is bearding, wont make him act worse.
Someone before was talking about Adam lambert and how happy they are that he is out and proud. Well lovely, but did you also hear him say that he does not want to be a role model for the gay community at all. I did not see anyone jump down his throat for that. Seeing that he is a big name in entertainment in the moment (due to circumstances)and that he should be attempting to be a role model. Instead you get upset that a guy who is not even out (possibly does't want to be out), doesn't step forward and become a role model. I'm sorry but you guys are just backwards.
And no I am not gay, so most likely you guys will say that I can't relate. but I do have gay friends. One that was up until very recently in an abusive relationship emotionally and physically. I'm sure you guys have bigger things to worry about then Jake frigign Gyllenhaal being gay.
And no need to tell me 'why did you come back' 'why should I care about your opinion" BS that, that same person posts all the time. This will not become a continuous thing, but I will check things out later.
As for the charity thing. I don't think the reps called to deny that he was there. It was more likely that they called the reps to see what Jake contributed to the event (if he did or didn't) and then said he was not there.
Wrong.
Which part of the sentence isn't clear enough: "Gyllenhaal's rep says that the actor wasn't in NYC on Saturday."
Canadian, you are a breath of fresh air. I don't agree with everything you say, but I sure agree with your right to say it. Alternative viewpoints keep the blog fresh. None of this divisive stuff. :)
Yes I understand it would mean the WORLD to some of you but there are other out movie stars that you should be focusing your time on.
We know, trolls keep telling us that!
"Canadian",
thanks for telling us what we should do and what we should worry about!
Canadian if that was you I am sorry if i offended you. You just dont know who is who around here anymore. I am not good at picking out who or what a troll is or why they would want to be one.
I respect ur opinion. Have agood New Year.
Wrong.
Which part of the sentence isn't clear enough: "Gyllenhaal's rep says that the actor wasn't in NYC on Saturday."
Which part of that sentence says that the reps called them? and that they did not call the reps? one sided point of view coming out again I see.
PG check out the new avatar. That is the picture I was telling you about. What a bod huh!
The Insider showed the part of the fight scenes where Jake is in the marketplace.
He really did learn a lot with his weapons training.
Which part of that sentence says that the reps called them? and that they did not call the reps? one sided point of view coming out again I see.
You said: "I don't think the reps called to deny that he was there. It was more likely that they called the reps to see what Jake contributed to the event (if he did or didn't) and then said he was not there."
No one would call and ask reps how much money did celebrity donate. No one would call reps to check if the celebrity was on some unimportant party. So it is fair to presume that reps called the reporter to deny Jake being in NYC on Saturday.
One more thing: Denial was issued AFTER the story was publisshed on E! Online site.
You guys are very good at only looking at one side. That is the main reason I left here. ...
I don't know if Jake is gay or not, nor do I care.
You should make up your mind.
How do you think people hear word of how much a celebrity donated? or why they were at the event? how they felt about the event? They call and ask their reps. They also do this to confirm what they printed if it is from a sighted source.
"Which is it?" Make up my mind about what? I don't know if Jake is gay. That is a fair enough statement (which i think all of you should be saying). You guys look at one side. Made up my mind about that one too. I left here. Wow, a decision my mind made. I'm confused. Explain your questions or don't ask at all.
All these one sentence questions, statement, answers, is why people get labelled a troll. You make it seem rude and controlled. I'll be happy to answer ANY questions you can throw my way.
You guys look at one side.
Which side is that? What else should we look?
Sounds like someone is having several conversations with themself.
Canadian it is most likely not the regulars who are asking the questions.
They also do this to confirm what they printed if it is from a sighted source.
Mark Malkin had good sources + denial was issued AFTER the story was published = E! Online did not call reps, reps called E! Online.
I don't know if Jake is gay. That is a fair enough statement (which i think all of you should be saying).
Think again. I'm sure Jake is gay, no doubt in my mind.
Adam did not say he didn't want to be a gay role model. What he said is that as an entertainer he was not comfortable talking about politics and civil rights. He also said that he did not want to be ghettoized as just a gay performer. That has happened with a lot of gay artists, and I can understand his concern and what he is saying. He is a performer who happens to be gay, not a gay man who happens to perform.
But the fact of the matter is that by living his life the way he does he is making a political statement. Kissing his then boyfriend when he knew the paps were there, kissing a boy on tv, living openly and honestly. And in fact Adam also said that as an artist what he was comfortable talking about was the personal, and in his case the personal includes being a gay man. And he is doing that.
I would not have conversations with myself...too tedious and time consuming. Not to mention I would screw up somewhere along the lines.
Statments are always issued after the fact, so I do not see why you keep point that out to me. He had a sighted source. As we knoe sighted sources are not always reliable. I'm not saying that he shouldn't of believed his source. I just don't see why people are saying that they denied it because it was a gay event etc, etc. He very well might not have been there, and the denial could of very well been made because he was NOT there. Nothing more nothing less.
Sorry destiny. I followed Adam's career at the beginning and fell off the wagon when I thought some of the things he said were a little immature. I do like him though and wish him success. Sorry if I had a mis statement. Still the statement you have said still shows me that he does not want to be a role model. Isn't that what you guys want? Someone who is gay and can speak politically and talks about civil rights? Isn't that the type of role model you want? Or do you just want Jake out so you can see him kiss his bf in the street? Because I do not classify that as a role model.
I have a problem with the bearding too. If he is actually bearding. He very well might be living a lie. But to be honest almost everyone in Hollywood is living a lie. Some of the other actors that people bring up on line stating that they are gay...like Matt Mccaughey (sp?) if people really think he is gay and living a lie, why don't you guys question him. Just throwing things out there. Not trying to start a fight. I just wonder why all the focus on Jake? Is it becuase you had such high hope in a BV about Toothy wanting to come out?
My posts are terribly long. I'm really appreciating the real responses though. I also enjoy not being attacked. Maybe I'll stick around for a bit.
Oh the other side thing, it could be about ANYTHING. Like okay I believe Jake is gay but there is a possibility that he is not. Jake is bearding only for status. I dunno Maybe he was asked to by A so they could have financial security and J is just doing his wishes. I mean come on! Jake looked tourtured. (I am not by any means saying this is my opinion, cause I really don't have one. But there is so many scenarios and to shoot a person down is just silly)
P.s. I love the fact that Austin wants to buy a house and fix it all up. Then we hear that Jake knows how to fix things and build cabinets. How lovely!
I hope you do stick around Canadian. I dont think you will see any of the regulars attacking you in anyway. But the dicussions have been pretty heavy and divided. I think the regulars left are all pretty strong minded and can take the heat. We still all respect each other. We sure have a divide going on about the bearding issue and how it effects our feeling about PoP. Hopefully soon it will be just a bad memory. Man I hope so.
Been tough trying to figure out who is who anymore though Canadian.
Hope you are better at it than I am.
I just wonder why all the focus on Jake?
Because this is Jake and Austin fan blog.
I am not by any means saying this is my opinion, cause I really don't have one.
That's fine, just please understand that most people here have firm opinions based on following everything about Jake for years.
Hopefully soon it will be just a bad memory. Man I hope so.
You and me both, Tom. :)
I have actually made a decision to stay out of the conversation about PoP. I admit I have been deliberately trying to make a big issue of how it and Jakes bearding are one and the same thing. So since I cannot seperate them I will keep my opinions to myself. I also have decided to drop any dicussion about bearding until I see what Jake has in store for us all with his upcoming PR public life. God what the hell will I talk about.
I dont people dont like it when they say i am calling out Spesh. So I wont do that anymore either. I know it is her blog and she certainly is gonna run it the way she pleases. So I hope if I have insulted any regulars or folks who drop back for a visit know that I will not be doing that again.
Never been a company line man so I am gonna have to figure out how I can voice my opinions and not upset others.
I cant keep track of who all said what, too many comments. But I am pretty damn sure that Jake is gay based on the past 4+ years of observation. Keep in mind that for those of us following him that long, he was a lot less guarded at one time.
As for whoever is complaining that we want his movies to fail, that is not true at all. But if it were even remotely true, you cant possibly believe that we have any influence over whether his movie is successful or not. POP has a $200million budget. The movie has to make 1 1/2 to 2 times that to pay back production costs + promo. That's a helluva lot of tickets to sell and gamers do not visit this site. If it is not successful, it will be because of the script, director, casting, editing, cgi, cinematography or acting, among other things. Word of mouth, pro or con, will spread by twitter within minutes.
It does occur to me that we are on final countdown for POP. Expect to see the marketing effort kick into high gear as we speak. That includes trying to reap the Jake is straight campaign rewards and to take shots at OMG and WFT2.
Some of the same points I have tried to make Canadian. Maybe a little different though. Good to here from you. I remember you from way back in the Dany days.
But I am pretty damn sure that Jake is gay based on the past 4+ years of observation. Keep in mind that for those of us following him that long, he was a lot less guarded at one time.
^^ I've followed Jake for just as long M. And wanted him to come out if he was gay, but it really does not matter to me now, it's his life. I'm still just a big Jake fan and will see his movies. I'm pretty sure he is not straight also, but there is a 50% percent chance he could be other. Bi or Straight! None of us know for sure.
Having influence and wanting a film to fail are two different things. I agree, a small group of fans' actual influence is very minimal, but a disappointed?contingent has come right out and said on this blog they want PoP to fail, wanted Brothers to fail even when they were shown box office figures by someone on the blog. I'm hoping he'll have as much success as possible so that he can come out, and for he and Austin and family, and their careers.
As long as posts are respectful, differences of opinion are a good thing and should be encouraged.
there is a 50% percent chance he could be other. Bi or Straight! None of us know for sure.
Speak for yourself.
The pictures of J&A are beautiful, but unfortunately it does not distract me from the fact that all I can see is the closet.
Goose in Italy with friends instead of his boyfriend.
Toothy with his niece but not his own child.
Some photos to counter all the talk last spring that Toothy is never seen with any of his friends, trying to show that he is really straight and therefore not afraid to be seen with Goose and Mike White.
Goose and Toothy working in places that can never be visited by the other.
geez said
Speak for yourself.
Where's peegee today? She used to hate teh gheys, so maybe she has a thing about beardz.
Poor trolls,
still trying to sell "but he might be straight! he might be bi! no one knows anything for sure! let's forget years of bearding!" BS.
woe is me...the party line is being upset
trolly's panties are bunched
who are you speaking for trolly
This is a JiG blog, nice try troll
Trolls need better nerves.
Jake dumping the beard was a terrible thing for them, left them in tears!
hehehe the trolly's are crying
this is a JiG blog (we don't care if Austin is gay or not)
I sed da funneh fing, da trollz needz beta nerfs n dat dey r in tears
Where did all the trolls come from?
Jake is still gay.
Trolls are still trolling.
Special K said...
Remember feeding trolls is not a good thing.
August 30, 2007 8:55 AM
we r nt feeding da trollyz, we has dem krying lol
Trolls are pathetic.
they must have got hold of a leak from Teds interns while he is on holidays. Austin has been sighted in LA, and it only a matter of time before Jake turns up there too.
"Trolls are pathetic."
Some TB have that in common with them.
some TB's are trolls themselves, especially when the knickers get a bit knotted - this new breed shall hence be known as pantyTrolls
YOU are here, trolling OMG.
No one is posting about gay Jake on babbler sites and blogs, but JiS trolls are following and posting on OMG all the time.
Trolls obviously have nothing to do this week. No family or friends to spend the holidays with, no work, school break, nothing to talk about at GB now that they can't even talk about Reese and that oh so perfect wedding, and what hats they would wear, and how adorable Ava would be as a flower girl.....
cry me a river.
nothing to talk about at GB now that they can't even talk about Reese
LOL!
They could trash the bitch and post nice, supporting posts about Jake!
No wonder the trolls knickers are in a twist. The babblers have spent the better part of this week speculating about a Christmas Reeke reconciliation and talking about whether the tabloids are wrong about the breakup. Then FL put a stop to it by ordering people to stop speculating.
How did you discover our sooper sekrit forum. Anyway, now that the leak has occurred, we can confirm that J&R will be getting back together. This has been checed with Ted's interns
lol said...
hehehe the trolly's are crying
^^ LoL, how old are you?
It's a New Year coming up, Please put a complete sentence together instead your childishe banter.
Grow up already!
Hopefully you are not an Adult,in case you are not, still GROW T*F*U!
Lrn2Sarcasm
The babblers have spent the better part of this week speculating about a Christmas Reeke reconciliation and talking about whether the tabloids are wrong about the breakup.
Wow, babblers really hate Jake!
No, they just really hate living breathing gay men. Gays are only acceptable in movies and slash.
Wow you people. I, too, like to check GB from time to time and after these last couple of posts I decided to take another look. Nobody over there is talking about the things you mention. Way to perpetuate untruths. Why do you do that? What sort of thrill do you get from blatantly lying? So unnecessary.
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