Sunday, June 20, 2010

Out Spotlight

Today's Out Spotlight is minister, author, filmmaker,activist, teacher and half of one of the most beloved teams on the television show The Amazing Race with his son Mike. Today's Out Spotlight is Rev. Mel White.

James Melville White was a behind-the-scenes member of the Evangelical Protestant movement through the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, writing speeches and ghostwriting books for televangelists such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham. White began coming out privately during the same period that the Religious Right stepped up its anti-homosexual statements.

In 1962, White graduated from Warner Pacific College. That same year, he married his wife Lyla. Mel and Lyla had two children, one of whom is the actor/comedian and screenwriter Mike White.

White went on to receive an M.A. in communications from the University of Portland, continued graduate work in communications and film at USC, UCLA, and Harvard. He received his Doctorate of Ministry from, Fuller Theological Seminary and also was on staff as a professor of communications and preaching for over a decade. Throughout all of his graduate work and teaching he also worked as an evangelical pastor.

After their marriage, Mel White admitted to his wife that he had always been attracted to men, while at the same time teaching that homosexuality was a sin. He fought to overcome his feelings, attempting to cure for his homosexuality. He turned to marriage, having a family, psychotherapy, prayer, electroconvulsive therapy, and even exorcism. Nothing changed his true orientation,and after he attempted suicide, he and his wife agreed to an amicable divorce. He began to understand and accept his homosexuality and reconcile it with his Christian faith, and express it respectfully and responsibly.

That journey is told in his book "Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America," published in 1994 the year after he came out. Lyla, his former wife wrote the foreword to this book.

In 1984, White met Gary Nixon at the progressive Episcopal church All Saint's Church in Pasadena, California. After 27 years, in June 2008 they were legally married in at the church they where they first met.

In 1993, Mel White came out publicly when he was installed as dean at the Dallas Cathedral of Hope of the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches (UFMCC). He announced during his first sermon, "I am gay. I am proud. And God loves me without reservation." After coming out, White transferred his clergy credentials to the gay-affirming Metropolitan Community Church.

Since then, he has devoted himself full-time to minister to lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgender people, working on their behalf in the media, in the political process, and with fellow religious leaders.

In 1997, he was awarded the American Civil Liberties Union's National Civil Liberties Award for his efforts to apply the "soul force" principles of Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. to the struggle for justice for sexual minorities.

He and Gary founded Soulforce, a national social justice organization that works to end the political and religious oppression of LGBT people, the following year in 1998.

Dismayed by the increasing confrontational tone on both sides of the issue, and the hateful words and actions that increased the divide and inspired by the nonviolence movements of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., he developed a program based on their principles. Adapting the teaching of Gandhi's principles called satyagraha or "soul force" many based on the teaching of Christ, and adapting them to address the struggles of the LGBT community.

Rev. White has produced, wrote, and directed 53 documentary films and television specials on spirituality.

His journey has not only been an example of living proudly for the community but on a more personal level as well, as being an example for his son Mike who is openly bisexual.

Mel and his son Mike appeared on the fourteenth season of The Amazing Race. The nicest, sweetest and most fun-filled team of the season the two lasted for seven legs on the race before being eliminated in sixth place in Phuket, Thailand.

White has said he would much rather be the loving gay and stand before God in judgment that ministers like Falwell, Robertson, or Kennedy that do so much harm to so many of Gods children.

Mel and Gary currently reside in Lynchburg, Virginia.


Soulforce


Mel and Mike:






And to celebrate those men who are fathers, and father figures to us all.

Happy Father's Day.


From the President Obama’s Father's Day proclamation:

“Nurturing families come in many forms, and children may be raised by a father and mother, single father, two fathers, a step father, a grandfather, or caring guardian. We owe a special debt of gratitude for those parents serving in the United States Armed Forces and their families, whose sacrifices protect the lives and liberties of all American children. For the character they build, the doors, they open, and the love they provide over our lifetimes, all our fathers deserve our unending appreciation and admiration.”


And for a Tooth & a Goose

97 comments:

Special K said...

You think Austin had a little Tony the Tiger for Breakfast?

Show em you're a tiger. Show em what you can do. Words to live by!!
36 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®


AUS10NICHOLS

But who says the "They'rrrrrre Grrrrrreat!' at that house?

Special K said...

Familiar with all the players in the Evangelical world that Mel White was a part of, his story has another dimension for me than for many others. I am really interested in reading Stranger at the Gate.

Mel and Mike were great on the Amazing Race, and were really what the race is about. It's an adventure, a game, but also a opportunity have a once in a life time experience and that they got to share it as father and son was just sweet.

Sigh said...

But who says the "They'rrrrrre Grrrrrreat!' at that house?

Sophia... in response to everything Austin says he likes. Sports, bands...

Bertie said...

Awww sweet post. Happy Father's Day, and a hug for ((((PG))))). :)

destiny said...

(((PG))).

Love this spotlight, it's so touching. Mike W. is very lucky to have a father that decided to do the right thing and lead an open and honest life. I bet seeing the damage not doing so was a factor in Mike's being out himself.

destiny said...

Special, I really think you should delete the posts by :-( and KK in the previous thread. The things said about PG and M and M are totally inappropriate.

Special K said...

I thought I had deleted the posts from KK already. I will go back and look again.

lol said...

poor jaustinites...they were all excited about AN starting on Twitter, but less than 24 hours later, that big inconvenience called Sophia popped up.

My Hero! said...

Latest tweet from the Goose:

En route to new orleans, la. Then grand isle. Gulf coast. Ready for battle. If I could swim to 5000 feet, I would cap that leak myself!!

lol said...

I guess Austin has better things to do than spend father's day at home with a fake baby.

lol said...

SophiaBush

@Mathew_Petersen We are headed to meet you man. Ready for war. Let's raise some hell!

OOOOOOOOOhhhhh, lookie who is going as well. Not a good day for Ted kool-aid drinkers

Special K said...

He might have had his weekend celebration yesterday and from his Tony the Tiger mention it could have been breakfast in bed for Daddy who gets sugar cereal as a treat in the house of healthy food.

prairiegirl said...

Excellent spotlight. I really liked it.

Strange Father's Day but a lot of people going thru same thing. Thanks for good thoughts.

M%M, I totally agreed with what you said. The fact that these two pictures are touted as Exhibit A and B says enough, lol.

Special, you make a good point regarding Rydell High's Sophia Bush. What a piggybacker.

prairiegirl said...

I don't know who's more irritating, Ice Maiden or Pom Pom Bush.

pride said...

Singer/songwriter Vanessa Carlton is bisexual, she said for the first time Saturday at Nashville Pride, which she headlined.

"I've never said this before, but I am a proud bisexual woman," she announced to a crowd of 18,000.

Vanessa, who is known for her hit singles 'Ordinary Day' and 'A Thousand Miles' and has been romantically linked to John Mayer and Stephen Jenkins in years past.

Happy Daddys Day said...

Just because Austin is bearding with Sophia does not mean he is having sex with her. They have been pals for years. The sex scenes are for OTH, not real life. And take a second look. Jake does not look like he wants to eat that gal up. If you want to see what that looks like, you need to look at the way he looks at Austin in Lakers1.

Dear M, those Lakers pictures were almost 5 years ago. Are you still hanging onto that? Whatever makes you happy. I know the idea of Jake making out with a woman upsets you, but if it makes him smile and happy, be happy with and for him.

You can't spin enough about what Jake may have been looking at, what was on his mind, what pr did. He was looking at that womans Ass. And he looked like he was interested. It does not mean he and Austin can't be involved. Come on M, it's 2010, don't be so rigid about sex when it's about men.

I guess Austin has better things to do than spend father's day at home with a fake baby.

NOoooooo! You mean to tell me Austin Jake and BT did not spend fathers day togethe? Instead he spent if with his other half that Sophia person? Bad Austin. Come on there has to be some Austin Jake and BT pictures on the net. Idea.. Everyone lets search the net and see what we come up with. Can't see why Austin would rather be with her on Fathers day instead of Jake and BT, then let everybody know via Twitter.

One Tree Hill said...

They have been pals for years. The sex scenes are for OTH, not real life. And take a second look.

I've looked enough M.
Jake is looking at that Woman. It's obvious you don't want it to be that, you don't approve, and you don't like it, whatever your motives for this type of attitude is, but it is what it is and there for all to see.

I read in a mag that Sophia and Austin asked for more intimate sex scenes for OTH. Cute, they just can't be pulled apart. They're always together.

Special K said...

Jake at the Farmer's Market and pic with him and Busy Philips and her family.

psychicchic: RT @missenscene: Glad I went to farmers market. Yummy food and yummy Jake Gyllenhaal with Busy Phillips and her family http://twitpic.com/1yiqv3
4 minutes ago via Echofon ·

Special K said...

Damn his arms. Why is he wearing long sleeve shirts? talk about gun smuggling.

m said...

Happy days, you need more practice following line of sight. Take a second look.

Dr. Oz said...

Happy days, you need more practice following line of sight. Take a second look.

M it may not be wise of u to look at those pictures of Jake looking at that woman again.
But if U do, U may want to take something or sit down first.

Jersey Tom said...
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m said...

I'm in a grumpy mood today. One of the slash authors just ended a long time story with an unexpected surprise twist. I won't say the story name in case some of you are reading it but you will either think its very creative or be pissed as hell. I fall into the latter category.

PG I did start reading your new story, or continuation, and am enjoying it very much. Now I need to go look at some Jake and Austin photos to lift my mood.

old mcdonald said...

M look at the picture of Jake at the farmer's market today.

Jersey Tom said...

old mcdonald said...
M look at the picture of Jake at the farmer's market today.



Jakes guns look great. You would think that someome who shops at the Farmers Market and cooks as much as Jake would have a family.

By the way I cant tell for sure if Jake is checking out that girls butt or not. It kind of looks like he is looking further up into the stands like he sees somebody he knows.

Jersey Tom said...

PG I hear what ur staying. Someone is sure spinning some deceit and lies. The question is. Is it Ted or is it Jaustin? We will probably never know.

Jersey Tom said...

One Tree Hill said...
They have been pals for years. The sex scenes are for OTH, not real life. And take a second look.

I've looked enough M.
Jake is looking at that Woman. It's obvious you don't want it to be that, you don't approve, and you don't like it, whatever your motives for this type of attitude is, but it is what it is and there for all to see.

I read in a mag that Sophia and Austin asked for more intimate sex scenes for OTH. Cute, they just can't be pulled apart. They're always together.



Do you realize how much of a jerk you are. What do you get out of it? Hard to believe such small minds exist.

scinic said...

"The question is. Is it Ted or is it Jaustin? We will probably never know."

We will never know I agree but one thing I am sure : both gain benefits from all of that.

Special K said...

You would think that someome who shops at the Farmers Market and cooks as much as Jake would have a family.

Exactly Tom! It's a lot of food shopping for a single guy, who goes out a couple times a week.

???? said...

Special, since you seem to know, exactly how much did he buy at the farmer's market today?

Speaking up for the single shopper said...

Single people can't shop at Farmers' Markets? Is fresh local produce restricted to families? I'm not saying Jake is single, but it's not much of an argument?!

m said...

Jake looks great. The rolled sleeves to show off his arms. Very gay. I wish it was a bigger picture. Since he and Austin have flexible schedules they can celebrate Fathers day any day they want and keep the bearding at full tilt. And yes, Jake is not cooking for one.

I saw some pictures of Bruckheimer at the site of the next Pirates movie so I guess POP is off his radar now. On to the next event. I'm glad he is out of Jake's life. He is kind of creepy to me.

lol said...

Here we are with @Mathew_Petersen. The hero of my green universe. Here we go! http://twitpic.com/1yku8e
9 minutes ago via Twitpic

I thought you might 'overlook' posting this photo, so here it is. Doesn't look like the smoke and mirrors y'all predicted. lol

lol said...

Since he and Austin have flexible schedules they can celebrate Fathers day any day they want and keep the bearding at full tilt.

Now it's "flexible schedules" being used to expalin away Austin's absence on Father's day. A more plausible explanantion would be that BT is fake, and you have all had too much of Ted's Kool-Aid.

And yes, Jake is not cooking for one.

And how can you tell this? You state it like it's a fact. Please stop with your delusions.

sick and tired said...

lol why don't you stop coming here.

prairiegirl said...

I've been without a decent keyboard to type on all weekend and I've been away from being able to comment since this morning, so watch out. I'm going to have run of the mouth tonight.


Number One, big stinkin' deal if Jake looks at another woman. I really doubt there are many people here or probably on WFT2 who are going to have a stroke over it.

Why? Because it would be noooorrrrmmmaaaallll. I look at men and I am straight. I am straight and I will also look at a really pretty girl, a girl with great legs whether they be athletic or just shapely. I'll look at a good ass whether it's a male or a female. I love asses!! I am an ass wo-man. I've seen some little dogs with some cute asses. And I'm not kidding. (LOL - miniature schnauzers have cute little butts)


We have seen Jake oogle women's cleavages. Tell me many men, straight or gay, who aren't. Why? Because that is one of God's gifts. God created the human body and it is beautiful. I think Carrie Underwood is gorgeous! I think Diane Lane is beautiful. Do I want to have sex with them? No. But do I appreciate their beauty? Yes.


Same as Jake. One night of looking at a girl with long denim clad legs does not make him straight, I am so sorry to tell you. One night of glancing up the stairs does not undo the lively blue shorts and the tenting tuxedo and his overall chemistry with men.


If you need to use two single pics from one night in 2010 as Exhibit A and Exhibit B proof that Jake is straight after all these years, boy, that is one late bloomer, I've got to tell you, LOL.

prairiegirl said...

People want to point & guffaw at OMGers for clinging to one set of pictures from a 2006 Lakers game? Well, how about clinging to two lone pictures of Jake craning his head towards an arena aisle as proof that he's straight.

And if you do look at that first one, his line of eyesight is not on the woman. She's about 3 steps up and his eyes are going straight across at an angle but not 3 rows up. However, that's beside the point. So what if he was looking at her.

You're barking up the wrong tree if you think we're going to fold up our tents & Coleman cooking stoves and go home crying for an RV. You have way underestimated everyone here, buddy.


And maybe you could enlighten us then, lol, as to why a hot, single, available stud like Jakey G. is at the biggest game of the year without a female date?

Unless Denim Legged Girl is attached, gee, why didn't Jake just go after her and ask her out? My gosh, he's stinkin hot as hell Jake Gyllenhaal. He's got girls and women screaming at him just to take his shirt off. Wouldn't you think that girl would've loved to go sit with him?

Maybe you can explain instead his chaperone, Mr. Rob Look Alike Guy to us. He is still under investigation, btw.

All those celebs knew they were going to be papped that night. Why wouldn't Jake have a female date? Why doesn't a guy who looks like Jake have a flavor of the month going on since his break up with Reese? Or is he still crying over that? Is that what it is? He's too emotionally distraught and can't bring himself to even think about getting it on with another woman after having Reese? Was Ice Maiden just too much and every other female just pales in comparison?

Maybe it's because Austin has the baton and is doing this lap of bearding. I think that is what it is.

Special K said...

And yes, Jake is not cooking for one.

And how can you tell this? You state it like it's a fact. Please stop with your delusions.


Well let's use a little deductive reasoning.

From what we know, about how he feels about food and the environment etc. Jake is not the kind of person to let good healthy food go to waste. It would be used.

We also know that Jake likes to keep himself in good shape.

Now looking at all the shopping he does, if he ate all of the food himself, he would not be as trim as he is right now.

Either he is making to give away, he is cooking than for just himself

m said...

Waiting for True Blood to start. Took a 2nd look at the farmers market picture. There is another man standing next to Jake in a gray t shirt. I wonder if it is the same guy we've seen him with last few days.

Special K said...

Here we are with @Mathew_Petersen. The hero of my green universe. Here we go

If Matthew Peterson is the center of her green universe, that must make Austin some random satellite that is forced to orbit around her.

Special K said...

Ahhhh new orleans. Best food in the world!! Powering up on crawfish and cornbread for my big dive tomorrow!!
3 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®


Well we know Austin knows how to pinch the tail and suck the head. ; )

etoufee said...

:)

prairiegirl said...

What farmers market picture are you talking about, m??

So far, we have just seen RLAG at professional athletic events. I had started scanning through other Reeke pictures but so far, no luck seeing him whenever Reese was around.

Here's what is interesting about this guy.


1) Like I said, in two separate games this guy has the tickets, including the Final 7 game. He's taking them out of his wallet to give one to Jake. If Jake is the celeb, he would be the one to be able to get his hands on tickets. So why does RLAG who I would've thought was a civilian have them and is dishing them out?

2) This guy drives Jake. Jake does not drive. Jake normally drove Reese. Jake drove with young, unidentified buzzcut guy. Jake drove Austin & Sophia. But in at least two separate instances, RLAG guy drives. Look at Jake in the car from the other night. He's all relaxed, leaning back because RLAG is chauffering. Interesting little detail. So RLAG guy springs for the tickets and he gets to drive, too.

3. These guys go to games together but man, they sure don't look like they're yukking it up or have been long-time great buds, even in that May 21 2009 game. RLAG guy is busy texting & looking at his phone all the time.


He appeared post-Rome and appeared in May 2009 during Reeke as well, when Jake was rarely, rarely allowed to be seen with men. So this guy is PR approved.

M and M said...

Well we know Austin knows how to pinch the tail and suck the head. ; )

You are too spectacularly wicked, Special. As Jack Twist said in Brokeback Mountain: "Fast or slow, I like the direction you're going."

Come to think of it, somehow on Father's Day, I'm thinking of another Brokeback sentiment:

"Ya know it could be like this, just like this always."

prairiegirl said...

m, I think I see what story you're talking about. I never read that one and I never would have because it's an MO Ennis story. I don't read those, dead!Jack or RPL.

But wow, there's a spicy little argument going on in the comments. Girl fight! Girl fight! lol. Yikes, should my readers ever get worked up like that over mine. I had people upset at how I ended Licks 3 but that was because I ended it so "abruptly", as I was told.

lol. Thanks for your words, m. I'm glad you've been enjoying it. My beta has already been on Cowboy Up Introduction & Chapter 1 but I have to get back with her on both of them. I've done some retinkering with the Intro so hopefully maybe something can happen this week. But after Wed, I lose my internet connection because I'm watching Nikki, Puddy, Greta & Lucky until next Tues. I can't get WiFi on my laptop at his house; there's not an unsecured network around. **sigh**. Oh, and the kids are coming up this week, too. So there goes Tues & Wed. I forgot.

Oh my gosh, I have to tell you guys what happened this morning.
lol.

Special K said...

PG - I posted a tweet that had a picture from Jake in the Farmer's Market earlier. That's what she is talking about.

M and M said...

So this guy is PR approved.

Not only is this guy PR approved, I'm thinking he is part of the PR team. You're observations are right on target, PG. Either he's courting our fair-haired boy (highly unlikely, given his appearance in 11/07 -- In other words, I don't think Reese would tolerate the competition), or he is on the payroll. Hey, maybe that's why RLAG guy can afford those ridiculously priced tickets! ;-)

prairiegirl said...

I could start a little printing shop in my bedroom. You know, blow up a picture of RLAG and post it around on telephone poles.

Do You Know This Guy?


LOLLLL


Now watch. He'll show up with Jake at Mako. Or Lamill. Or Starbucks. Or Mazzo. Or the Farmers Market. Or at the Kung Fu Studio. Or at dance aerobics. Or Jar. Or Joan's on Third. Or Chateau Marmot. Or under the Bronze Elephant. Or in Russia with a crowd of dancing girls. Or Whole Foods.


I'm just now catching up on these pictures. So is that Jake's SUV in the Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting picture? Surely not. It is an Audi, though, isn't it? The Olympic Circle Rings insignia? But they didn't blur out the license plate. I can't believe they wouldn't.

JIS said...

"And maybe you could enlighten us then, lol, as to why a hot, single, available stud like Jakey G. is at the biggest game of the year without a female date?"

You answered your own question, he's a single straight guy and she was not the only woman Jake was checking out at the game. The pic of his friend checking his phone, shows Jake eyeing the woman below them. His eyes are directed at her not the guy's phone. I dare you to go take a look.

JIS said...

Jake was oogling more than that one woman at the game.

prairiegirl said...

Okay, so I was in the shower this morning, just sudsing up and over the glass doors comes this wasp. He comes floating down (you know how they kind of hang in the air) and man, I have to climb out the cramped side over the bathroom scale, between the tub & the toilet and I'm sliding all around on the tile floor. Then I get the rug all wet and I throw the washcloth in the sink and knock things over.

The stupid wasp hovers over the drain near the water and so I remember that she usually keeps her slippers at the head of the bed so I go in there (and she has no blinds on her kitchen window, but OH WELL!! lol) and there's one of my flip flops. And I take it in there and Whack Whack Whack "Die, you wasp, die!" and I smash that guy to death.

And I have this pet peeve about when I get out of the shower, I cannot stand to step out onto a wet rug. Can't stand one single wet spot.

Man, that rug and floor was wet all over. LOLLLL.I had water everywhere.

That wasp could have stung us last night. Good grief! What a nightmare.

prairiegirl said...

I don't mind looking. Do you think I'm quaking in my socks or something? You don't get it, do you?

Big stinkin' deal! It does not change my mind whatsoever.


Oh my dog, I can't believe you are arguing about this.

Excuse me, I need to change my avatar.

To put you out of your misery said...

Justin Long is Toothy Tile.

Special K said...

Justin Long was born in Fairfield CT,
Toothy was born in Los Angeles.

M and M said...

Sophia Bush Tweet: Here we are with @Mathew_Petersen. The hero of my green universe. Here we go! http://twitpic.com/1yku8e

Gee, what a surprise. It appears Jake knows Matt Peterson as well. Looks like it's a small Family Tile world, after all.

Btw, Soapie-poo. It's Matt, not "Mathew" (sp?) What a lughead. Not only does Ms. Red Carpet Airhead sound like a five year old, but she spells like one too.

Call me Global Green

and...

Jake and Matt

Rx said...

The rolled sleeves to show off his arms. Very gay.

^^ you really don't have a clue M. It's sad. Your stereotypical idea of what gay men look and dress like are kind of childish.

Since he and Austin have flexible schedules they can celebrate Fathers day any day they want and keep the bearding at full tilt.

M sweetheart, it's Fathers Day for dogone sake. Fathers with loved ones should be together. Jake and Austin and BT should be together today!

M you should be pretty dizzy by now from all of your spinning on this subject.
Please Sit down and take a break or someone might have to call the paramedics.
Believe me it's alright if they are not together. There could be worser things in life.

M's language is offensive said...

Frankly, I'm offended at M's usage of "very gay" in her previous comment. It's insulting to all gays everywhere. Please delete that comment for its insensitive language.

Fox News said...

If you need to use two single pics from one night in 2010 as Exhibit A and Exhibit B proof that Jake is straight after all these years, boy, that is one late bloomer, I've got to tell you, LOL.

What????? Come now. The same thing has been done with 1 pic at Lakers game 4 or 5 years ago.
And you're still throwing up that pic as evidence of a still ongoing love relationship. More Spinning.

gay poster here said...

I agree. It's offensive to me, I'm gay and don't wear my sleeves rolled up and never will.

prairiegirl said...

M sweetheart, it's Fathers Day for dogone sake. Fathers with loved ones should be together.

Do you want to tell that to all the people who were at the pool laying out today at my apt complex?

And that's not saying it's a good or appropriate thing, I'm just saying that's what they were doing. Not all families observe things the same way ( as I have been told, lol.)

Not only that, but some of us knew that there was absolutely no way that Jake and Austin were going to place themselves in the same state today.

prairiegirl said...

apt = apartment

lol said...

And maybe you could enlighten us then, lol, as to why a hot, single, available stud like Jakey G. is at the biggest game of the year without a female date?

None of my posts have been about Jake. Jake can look at who he wants. The world won't end.

But, you conveniently ignore the fact that Austin is not around on Father's day. Maybe his swirling juices aren't as potent as Jake's, and Jake is the biological father. Or maybe, it just all a con. Hhmmmm...

M and M said...

Not only that, but some of us knew that there was absolutely no way that Jake and Austin were going to place themselves in the same state today.

Exactly, PG.

And, regarding the 2006 photos, have you ever heard of "in the closet?"

looking good said...

Thanks Spesh for tweet from the Farmer's Market. Jake's arms look amazing. : )

lol said...

Not only that, but some of us knew that there was absolutely no way that Jake and Austin were going to place themselves in the same state today.

LMAO. If they were both in LA, you would be concocting theories about hubbies and fake babies, and smoke and mirrors. Just like some have done with the Farmers Markets pics - stretching the truth about how many people Jake is shopping for, and insinuating that the food can't possibly be for himself. Some of you need to re-read some of the delusions that you come up with.

lol said...

Now looking at all the shopping he does, if he ate all of the food himself, he would not be as trim as he is right now.

Either he is making to give away, he is cooking than for just himself.


The photo shows Jake with one black bag over his shoulder - a bag that is flat as a pancake - nothing or very little in it.

Please stop embellishing the truth. If Jake had a big trolley full of goods, than I would be more than happy to agree with you that he is shopping for more than one person. But sorry, you must be looking at a diffrent photo.

m said...

10:36 Neither Jake,Austin or Sophia spent time with their fathers today. I guess that means they don't love their fathers. Besides babies the age of baby tile(s) probably don't know the difference.

I lived and worked in San Francisco over 20 years. Do you know how many out gay men I've seen wearing sleeveless or rolled up t-shirts. I cant begin to count them. Taste in clothing is personal, but I do think more gay men wear that look than straight men.

Odd that someone is claiming that Jake looked at lots of women at the game. If that is so, why did we only see one picture. Were the others he looked at not the least bit sexy and so PR only picked the one out that made Jake look straight.

FFS said...

Not only that, but some of us knew that there was absolutely no way that Jake and Austin were going to place themselves in the same state today.

Prairiegirl, let me get this straight.

Are you saying that if Jake and Austin were in the same state on Fathers day, that somehow that would confirm jaustin? Who besides OMG & WFT posters would give a shit what state they are in?

So therefore are you saying that they placed themselves in different states because of what OMG and WFT posters might say? Your power is amazing!

Rx said...

10:36 Neither Jake,Austin or Sophia spent time with their fathers today. I guess that means they don't love their fathers.

Maybe the do, maybe they don't. I don't know. The point was, Austin made it very clear that he wanted people to know that he was with someone other than Jake by his actions. Or let me put it this way, He made it very clear to let people, including the Austin fans on this site that he was with Sophia, by his actions. Sophia did the same!

I lived and worked in San Francisco over 20 years. Do you know how many out gay men I've seen wearing sleeveless or rolled up t-shirts.

M that was over 20 years ago when gay men and straight men wore their sleeves rolled up because of the fashions of that time.

Why is it odd that Jake could have looked at many of the women who did attend the game. Odd?? Maybe in your world it's odd, but straight, bisexual and gay men do look at women. And all three of these types of men may desire that certain women depending on the day, time, where there at in their life, you name it. Why so rigid in your thoughts about men. And why are you so fixated on the idea that Jake could not be interested in this woman or, the bad pr people are out to fool you? That's alot of work to go thru just to fool you and a handful of others.

Did you read the comments to Astin's and Sophia's pictures on his or their twitter. I think only one commenter called them pr whores and all the others were how nice they looked together. I don't think they care about the TT rumors or pr as you do. There just fans.

Correction said...

^they're not there

Reality Check said...

It's not about Austin, Sophia, Jake and the kids. It's about doing something that's right. They are posting all kinds of tweets that have only to do with the tragedy, and they are raising awareness of it. There's a photo of a dead turtle washing up on the beach, another video of a family affected by the spill.

You did not think J&A were going to be in different states. Some thought they would be in the same state celebrating Father's Day. But, maybe some things take precedence temporarily. Some people like to look beyond them and theirs, to others.

I can't tell the quantity of food Jake is buying from the photos I have seen - but most people shop for fresh produce and meats/seafood every few days. There's no way to tell how much he actually buys at the time, but we do know he love to cook and enjoys visiting farmer's markets, and using the freshest ingredients.

Austin and Sophia could simply be together as friends and colleagues who want to help out. Whatever the reason, it's secondary.

Guys have been rolling up their tshirt sleeves since James Dean. I don't think all of them are straight, nor is it a gay thing.

M and M said...

And why are you so fixated on the idea that Jake could not be interested in this woman or, the bad pr people are out to fool you? That's alot of work to go thru just to fool you and a handful of others.

Welcome to Hollywood!

prairiegirl said...

Well, well, well, well, well.....


What have we here???? Isn't this interesting. The Sophin Fan Club Cavalry has arrived!!

Awwww...and not enough people to line the streets and cheer you on either. Isn't that too bad. Or isn't that just too opportunistic????

Cary Grant said...

And why are you so fixated on the idea that Jake could not be interested in this woman or, the bad pr people are out to fool you? That's alot of work to go thru just to fool you and a handful of others.

Welcome to Hollywood!


Fool the Masses = YES

Fool a few posters on sites that follow Ted's every word = NO

Too much time and money
Besides, didn't you know every hot young Hollywood male star is gay or bi and have rumors?
All of them so why bother

Who gives a shit about
Kevin Spacey? Ian McClellan?
= Gay + rumors
= Old + hot NOT = nobody cares

lol said...

"What have we here???? Isn't this interesting."

Nevermind Sophin, it's jaustin that needs resuscitation at the moment.

prairiegirl said...

Oh look! ecf is in the house! ecf, that last thing made absolutely no sense, sorry.

The photo shows Jake with one black bag over his shoulder - a bag that is flat as a pancake - nothing or very little in it.

And you can verify exactly what point in time this particular picture was taken? Did Jake go immediately to his car to go home as soon as the picture was shot? lol, I don't think you can.


I don't talk to people who use foul names as their temporary name. Talk to the hand.

What said...

Nevermind Sophin, it's jaustin that needs resuscitation at the moment.

*****
ROTFLMAO = rollingonthefloorlaughingmyasOFF

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lol said...

And you can verify exactly what point in time this particular picture was taken? Did Jake go immediately to his car to go home as soon as the picture was shot? lol, I don't think you can.

Exactly LMAO. Neither can you say he was shopping for more than one person.

Poor PG, all your arguments seem to be falling apart tonight! I think you need a nanna-nap.

Faulty logic said...

Besides, didn't you know every hot young Hollywood male star is gay or bi and have rumors?
All of them so why bother


Still shipping that ridiculous concept? Give me a break. Oh, I get it. If everyone is considered gay or bi in Hollywood, then the gay rumors surrounding Jake, year after year, after year, are nothing exceptional. Therefore, they can't be true. I guess there's a certain logic to the statement. That is, if you're a moron.

prairiegirl said...

So, before I turn in, because I am going to be dead tomorrow, lol. I'm calling an impromptu charge conference meeting.

I notice on the two blogs, we've got the Sophin Calvary suddenly patrolling. Imagine that..... and at the same time, taking the opportunity to stick their little demitasse fork into Jaustin.

Well, let's see....we have the JIS trolls.

I dunno.....we could dub you....SIR - Sophin is Real

No, this whole going down to the gulf thing started way too suspiciously. They both start twittering at the same time. They both involve One Tree Hill.

Sophin is fake. Sophia is Austin's beard.

Jake & Austin are in a committed relationship.

Jake & Austin very likely are fathers. To the same child/children.

Reese was Jake's beard. Reese pulled the plug on Reeke. Now Sophin is carrying the baton.

I believe Jake & Austin will lie and deceive in order to hide & protect the secret family that they have.

And you don't have to believe it. I could care less. But the fact that you keep hanging around tells me there's something to the whole fairytale, disillusion, made up crap that makes you uneasy, drives you crazy, causes you loss of sleep, gets under your crawl, makes you mad, has you worried and just gnaws & gnaws in your subconcious because otherwise you would be playing with your Wii rather than hanging out with a bunch of Jaustinite loons on OMG.

Am I not right.

Unless. Unless the SIR calvary was instructed to dig out their Reeke Manual of Trollish Phrases from the Archived file on their Personal Drive and pop the knuckles, stretch the fingers because boys, it's time to bring out the balls & bats! It's time for the second half of the Troll doubleheader! It's time to punch the time cards and get off of that cig break. PR is back in the trolling business! Sorry, but actually you guys just make it worse for your cause by coming here. Your being here tells me that there's something you feel you have to defend. Kind of like a moat.

And now I've got to hit the hay. I'm going to be getting up in....oh, in another 3 hr & 9 minutes.

Cary Grant said...

Jake, year after year, after year, are nothing exceptional.

Let's ask:
Tom Cruise
J. Travolta
Ben Affleck
Matt Damon
R.D. Jr
James Franco


Maybe true, but most don't care.


Therefore, they can't be true. I guess there's a certain logic to the statement. That is, if you're a moron.

You are entitled to your opinion but I choose to think you blindly holding onto a thin thread that BT and Daddy's Jake and Austin are being held back from you by keeping this deep dark secrete to throw you off and confuse you even when Austin flaunts his girl toy all over the net, twitter and mags kinda with a middle finger flipped bird atcha attitude, but you call me a moron?
Is the Ted Koolaid grape or cherry? Keep Drinking

Ulterior motive said...

I think only one commenter called them pr whores and all the others were how nice they looked together. I don't think they care about the TT rumors or pr as you do.

Untrue. Go back to WFT2. You will see many posters disgusted with not only the PR whoring and exploitation of a tragedy, but the juvenile nature of the ping ponging tweets. Last time I checked, this spill has been in the news for two months. But, suddenly, out of nowhere, Sophin is going to come to the rescue to kick some butt. Golly gee, I sure hope they are going to bring their capes and superpowers with them on this "save the world" mission. Yeah, I'm sure this obviously staged event is just being done for purely selfless reasons. By the way, I have some beach front property to sell you in Nebraska too. Are you interested? *shakes head*

lol said...

Ramble all you want PG! Your arguments tonight are still a carcass being feed upon by vultures.

Faulty logic said...

You are entitled to your opinion but I choose to think you blindly holding onto a thin thread that BT and Daddy's Jake and Austin are being held back from you by keeping this deep dark secrete to throw you off and confuse you even when Austin flaunts his girl toy all over the net, twitter and mags kinda with a middle finger flipped bird atcha attitude, but you call me a moron?
s the Ted Koolaid grape or cherry? Keep Drinking


Not only are you not logical, but you have no idea what I think about any of these topics. Seems to me YOU have a vested interested in selling only one brand of heavily processed goods. Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.

Hey, I've got an idea! Why don't you apply for a job with Jake's public relations team? Because I'm looking around, but don't see much interest in OMGers buying your reactionary salespitch. Probably because...that's right. You're a moron.

m said...

What I notice most about the troll is that they work themselves into a near hysteria. Notice how they have a defense for every single thing immediately. They don't even stop to think. Just defend by rote. They target wft2 one day, then omg another. All to no avail. Their own argument starts to swing back on them.

As for "Austin made it very clear that he wanted people to know that he was with someone other than Jake by his actions. Or let me put it this way, He made it very clear to let people, including the Austin fans on this site that he was with Sophia, by his actions." Yes, that is exactly what the bearding effort is about. Thanks for confirming what we suspected. And what a coincidence. Ted just reaffirmed in the last week that Goose is bearding.

I'm off to bed now in case any impersonators show up.

:( said...

"Hey, I've got an idea! Why don't you apply for a job with Jake's public relations team"

I already work for them

eating popcorn said...

The JiS people are as funny as the OMG people, lol. Looks like both camps may have their own brand of Kool-Aid :D I see lots of pots and kettles.

?? said...

7:14, you left out the following combatants:

Trolls/trollys
Babblers
PR Lackeys
JiG w/o Austin
JiG w/ Austin +/- BT
Sophin fangurls
Reese fangurls
Bored basement dwellers

Can't we all just get along? j/k

Sad said...

What I notice most about the troll is that they work themselves into a near hysteria. Notice how they have a defense for every single thing immediately. = M nervously chirping about PR while Keeping fingers corssed that Ted will drop juicy tidbits.. Sad

They don't even stop to think. Just defend by rote. = Regular M talk. Jake goes for coffe, it's PR. Jake eats at diner, it's PR.
Jake gets a haircut, it's PR. Sad

He made it very clear to let people, including the Austin fans on this site that he was with Sophia, by his actions."
= maybe he likes her or deeper still, loves her and dating her?? Afterall, he does spend his every waking moment with her. Isn't this what happens when people want to be with each other? ?Your mate?
If he was with Jake all this time, this would be enough evidence you need and you would throw it up every min. of everyday. Since this is not happening, then it's that old M emotional Reflex with her mouth or should i say fingers "It's PR". Sad

and yet said...

JIS
JIG w/o Austin
Trolls/trollys
Babblers
PR Lackeys
Sophin fangurls
Reese fangurls
Bored basement dwellers

have places but come here

boxoffice mojo said...

1 Toy Story 3 $109,000,000
2 The Karate Kid $29,000,000
3 The A-Team $13,775,000
4 Get Him to the Greek $6,117,000
5 Shrek Forever $5,520,000
6 Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time $5,273,000
7 Killers $5,100,000
8 Jonah Hex $5,085,000
9 Iron Man 2 $2,675,000
10 Marmaduke $2,650,000


Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time curiously had the smallest drop among nationwide holdovers. The video-game adventure dipped 19 percent to an estimated $5.3 million, upping its sum to $80.5 million 24 days. Up until now, it had been holding up only slightly better than fellow Memorial Day weekend opener, Sex and the City 2. That picture, which lost more theaters than Prince, tumbled another 56 percent to an estimated $2.4 million, increasing its total to $90.2 million in 25 days or only two thirds of its predecessor through the same point.

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $80,508,000
+ Foreign: $213,100,000
= Worldwide: $293,608,000

destiny said...

Father's Day was a holiday invented by the card industry to sell more cards. So if someone wants to celebrate it on another day, I don't see what the fuss is about. And as someone pointed out, little kids aren't going to know what it is or care anyway, it's really about the adults in that case.

One of my oldest friends--who has three kids--is in town, and we (Along with my ice tea drinking girlfriend) spent last night drinking our way across one restaurant and two bars in the Meatpacking District. He has a conference and business meetings in NYC today, and yesterday he flew out here from back west, leaving his house at 7:00 a.m. yesterday. The family celebrated Father's Day on Saturday. I'm sure he'd be surprised to hear the fact he celebrated a day earlier because he had to travel on business makes him a bad father. The idea wouldn't even compute.

destiny said...

Agree with you PG about Pom Pom Bush--lol, what a perfect name.

In the industry POP is perceived as a huge failure, even if the numbers don't look that horrible compared to some other failures. The NYT had an article on Toy Story 3 and it talked again about Disney's performance at the box office, which seems to flip back and forth between hits and flops. It said POP would probably go down as the biggest failure of the year.

wish i could fail like that said...

It said POP would probably go down as the biggest failure of the year.

a $300m failure

destiny said...

It's a $300 million failure because that is what it cost to make and market it. With Disney getting 40% overseas and 50% domestically, it has earned them roughly $125 million so far--or a loss of $175 million.

Even if they sell a few more tickets, dvds, etc, they are never going to break even. DVD sales are way down, and for a movie that nobody was that interested in the first time around......Disney will probably still end up losing over $100 million dollars on the movie.

They should have never spent that much money to make and market a film like POP. Despite the game connection, it sounds like an old-fashioned movie, and it was never going to bring in the audience it needed to make back its money. Plus they did a horrible job marketing it.

But Jake is still going to share the blame, and his career is still going to take a hit because of POP.

prairiegirl said...

I agree on the marketing & financial expenditure on PoP, Destiny. It's Disney's own fault that they spent so much money on it. I didn't ask them to film in Morocco. I didn't ask them to hire so many extras for those fight scenes. I didn't ask them to sew all those extravagant costumes. I didn't ask them to put up the money for Jake's elaborate resort living quarters in Morocco.

Think of all those travel expenses. The high-priced hotels, the meals, the $1 million suit for Jake to wear in Europe and probably Gemma's dress. Who knows how much that cost. Every business dinner, every hotel stay, every rented car or private jet, personal trainers, dressing room perks & demands, personal assistants, umbrella-holders, every free ticket to something that's handed out like Laker courtside seats featuring top brass & actor, dates, tagalongs. Every party. Dancing parties with paid, furnished live dancing partners. Security.

Cha ching! Cha ching!

Who knows how much money is wasted. These guys don't know how to curb all the perks & freebies and maintain a budget that is reasonable & smart.

Once again, I blame the American mentality of more, more, more, want, want, want, need, need, need.

And do we ticketbuyers have to share some of the blame eventually that our movies have had to get so extravagant? Are we demanding it? Is it just the filmmakers because they think the viewers are demanding & needing it?

Look at all those fake backgrounds in the old movies. What was so different about viewers back then as opposed to now? We're all a bunch of spoiled, mollycoddled, pampered brats. I can still watch an old Errol Flynn, Frank Sinatra, Disney movie with obviously fake, painted backgrounds but I don't care!! I still watch Summer Magic, They Died With Their Boots On and Pal Joey.

But it's typical America. Everything has to get bigger & bigger & bigger. Everyone has to outdo the last guy. Nothing is ever enough for us. We demand more & more.

We're always wanting the next, best, brightest, most expensive, top of the line thing because we think that if we just have that thing, it will make us happy.

Americans do not know how to be satisfied. Content. Happy.

So until movie studios learn to get creative and try to be business-wise, they can just cry until they need little crying buckets to set down at their feet to catch the tears.

And probably 100 people will get on here and tell me, Well, that's Hollywood. That's how it is. Get real!

I will shrug and say I don't want to hear them crying. It's impossible to feel sorry for them.

Now that I followed so much of this behind the scenes that went on with PoP, it's impossible to feel sorry for Disney. Someone doesn't know how to keep track of a simple checkbook ledger.