Saturday, June 5, 2010

Lullabies and Grampa Jake

As a part of the interview with ABC's Peter Travers, Jake was asked to sing a song. Travers told him whatever came to mind and even threw him a softball, and said something from Damn Yankees. Jake's choice a lullaby.



This is not the first time he has mention this song. He talking about The Fox, when he as talking to the KCRW around the promotion of Brothers. He talked about how he was influenced by his parents’ musical tastes and "repaid the favor with a Guest DJ set dedicated entirely to family – from the folk song that his dad sang him to sleep to the live track that makes him sob on set."

He talks about crying when listening to the River while on the set of Brothers and what the song reminds him of: "I think a lot of it has to do with, it’s connection to my family, listening to Bruce Springsteen when I was a kid with my dad. My first concert I ever went to was the Born in the USA tour concert and I remember being with my father. I just think the story between father and son and the complications between those two positions in a family has always been a huge thing in my life." It is not the first time Jake's use The River as part of his process, it was an important piece back when he debuted on the London Stage for This is our Youth.

Next is the song he sang for Peter Travers. The Fox by Burl Ives. "My father used to sing this to me -- and I love Burl Ives just as a character, just as a musician -- and when I was a little kid we were robbed outside of our house. We were driving home, we pulled up and we were robbed and ever since I was always really nervous about falling asleep, you know, naturally, and so my dad would sing this to me before I’d go to bed.
My father, has this guild guitar, which he still has, beautiful kind of mahogany color, and again it comes back to my father who was a big musical influence on me when I was a kid and continues to be."

Then it was a song connected to his mother. Inchworm by Danny Kaye. "So I would say “Inchworm,” would be my next choice because Danny Kaye was and is still a HUGE influence on me as an actor and a performer. I just watched him so much when I was a kid and he had this love of entertaining, I think I’ve heard also about him this real love of children and caring for them, and you can tell that it in this song. Just like, wonderful, wonderful movies, “Five Pennies,” and “The Court Jester,” and then “Hans Christian Anderson,” which this song is from. My mother was a big Danny Kaye fan and would always play me these movies. She is, in fact, the person who always calls me up and is like, *imitating his mother’s voice* ‘You should redo “The Court Jester!"

Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso "And this in particular, I’m taken so many places with this song. It really broke me out as a kid into the emotions and the intensity of classical music. This is another one of those things where I just remember being in the car and this is something that my father played me."

And lastly "Father and Son" by Loudon Wainwright. "This song somehow encompasses, I guess, what I was saying about family. At the very end, Loudon Wainwright says “Maybe its hate, probably its love.” Man, *chuckles*, that sort of says it. And I think, somehow, the fact that he’s the patriarch of this family that is so kind of extraordinary is something to look up to, something to admire. They are, I know at least publicly, they have complications and are open about it and it’s wonderful because we all try and pretend like everything’s ok, or that things are perfect or try to make them the way they’re ‘supposed to be,’ quote unquote, and I think this song is really about him being as honest as he can about his relationship with his son and just loving him deeply."

While the movie Brothers was about family, Jake was saying much more than just that when he did shared these songs.

As for Grampa Jake? This could be him in twenty years or thirty with Hollywood medicine. What is it? It's a 18" prototype of a Dastan statue for $300.00. The interchangable arms come free. (Kotaku)

164 comments:

Sage said...

Poor Austin, he is such a good haus-husband -- putting up with having his hubby gallivanting about with Mr Mumford, hugging him in public, and going for coffee runs. What's next? Jake and Marcus coming out of the same gym all sweaty (that means they're fucking, y'know)?

really? said...

While the movie Brothers was about family, Jake was saying much more than just that when he did shared these songs.

What did Jake imply? People don't talk about love for their parents and siblings unless they have kids?

Special K said...

Jack see you where here. Cartoons might be more fun, for a Sat morning or maybe nice brunch.

And Really back with more questions, I see.

really? said...

Yes, more questions, because you still refuse to discuss things that don't support your opinion.

Sage said...

No, not Jack. But if you call enough people that name, you will increase your odds of being correct for once.

OMG said...

Special, LOL.

Nice post today. I love "The River" too. The statue has a pretty good likeness, I think? We really liked the Prince of Persia, but in later conversation, my hub's fave Jake role so far is Brothers. He said he's really matured as an actor.

Troll(s), go seize the day.

Special K said...

I know Sage you're not. But Jack was here earlier.

The only thing Mr. Nichols might be envious of Mr. Mumford is his boots and his buckle. He's got nothing to worry about when it comes to his man.

really?* said...

Of course not, you know everything there is to know about Jake and Austin's relationship.

OMG said...

^^I noticed! I was going to say I really liked Mr. Mumford's boots and buckle, and another guy I remember a picture of wearing something similar. ;)

Stubborn TB said...

really, can you please tell us what your criteria were in deciding that the Jake/Henry Cavill thing was okay to speculate on?
What are the criterias that make one unnarmed source credible and Ted along with several others not?

really? said...

Reposting my comment about Henry Cavill:

really? said...
I have no idea if Cavill gossip is true or not, but if Jake and Austin are still together I bet their relationship is not monogamous.
Remember that "Jake Gyllenhaal wants to touch my penis" (something like that) blog story?
June 4, 2010 9:14 AM

Stubborn TB said...

really?, can you please anyswer my question why you decided it was okay to speculate on the Cavill story and on the J/A relationship?

really? said...

Stubborn TB,

Ted posts gossip. DL posts gossip. All gossip should be open to questioning and speculation.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, can you please answer why your speculation is okay then and ours is not?
What is your criteria for deciding?

really? said...

Stubborn TB, looks like you don't read my posts. Just a quick reminder:

really? said...
What does she want from the posters here?

To admit that JiG opinions different from Special K's or Prairiegirl's or Destiny's are acceptable to post here.
That all poster's arguments can be questioned and discussed.
That Ted's gossip is just gossip, not indisputable truth.
Is that too much to ask?

June 3, 2010 3:39 PM

Stubborn TB said...

really?, no one told you not to post the speculation about Henry and J/A's relationship and Special didn't delete it.
You however tell us not to post what we post, "because we don't know".

Can you please answer me why it should be acceptable to post your opinions but not the opinions Special K, PG and Destiny hold (all different by the way, if you bothered to read the blog)?

really? said...

You however tell us not to post what we post, "because we don't know".

Read my 12:01 PM post, don't make things up.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, why do you say that you just want us to accept other opinions when we obviously already do, as they're being posted and not deleted?
And can you please answer my question? What is the criteria you use to decide whether something is acceptable to speculate on or not?

really? said...

the opinions Special K, PG and Destiny hold (all different by the way, if you bothered to read the blog)

Special K, PG and Destiny believe that Jake and Austin are still together and have kid(s). What is different about their opinions, number of BTs?

Stubborn TB said...

really?, read some of the posts and you'll see they disagree on quite a few things about J&A.

And can you please answer my question?

destiny said...

I can understand why Jake doesn't want to talk about his relationship with Heath, and I don't think he needs to just because of the fans.

However, I do agree with Tom that there seemed to be an embargo on his talking about Heath while he was with Reese. I also will never understand why he couldn't have released a simple, one sentence statement. Iconic co-stars do it all the time. It would have struck me as wrong and strange for Betty White to not say something about Rue M., or for Redford to say something about Newman. The fact that he couldn't have his pr issue one simple sentence, all while running out to his weekly Reeke photo opp, was just wrong. He was too devastated to say 10 words, but not to go hiking with Reese and the kiddies?

There's a difference between honoring someone like that, and spilling your guts about your friendship. Jake's statements in the new interview don't seem to make that distinction.

And yes, once again I think all the talk of doing things for others being more important than making movies is just more hooey. This coming from the man who has basically worked on five films, including POP with its very long shoot, some back-to-back, while hiding his child and partner.

isee said...

Stubborn, do you really care who said what, when and why? This is all merely boring semantics used as a tool when trying to deflect conversation away from the fact that Jake and Austin are clearly not attached at the hip, that Jake is out on the town a lot w/o Austin displaying that he's definitely not Husband Of The Year material nor even Father Of The Year. And THAT makes me think you're very very scared. Scared that what you have put so much hope and faith into all these years might be a big F-U.

really? said...

really?, why do you say that you just want us to accept other opinions when we obviously already do, as they're being posted and not deleted?
Not accept, treat as valid if there are arguments to back them up.

And can you please answer my question? What is the criteria you use to decide whether something is acceptable to speculate on or not?
I've answered that - everything is open to speculation, even Ted's gossip.

destiny said...

My opinions are very different. For starters, I don't think they have a monogamous relationship, and I am practically alone in thinking it is wrong to hide their child. I also don't think there is a second BT.

For another, I don't think all of the family talk, etc. is due to Jake having a child and partner. I think it is all part of the game of doing a Disney family film.

really? said...

really?, read some of the posts and you'll see they disagree on quite a few things about J&A.

They all agree about 2 major issues: Jake and Austin are a couple and fathers.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, can you tell me what your criteria were in deciding that the arguments backing up J&A not being monogamous are valid?

Can you tell me what the critera were in deciding that those sources were credible?

really? said...

really?, can you tell me what your criteria were in deciding that the arguments backing up J&A not being monogamous are valid?

I think Jake and Austin aren't a couple anymore - Austin spending time with the beard instead with Jake, Jake spending time with other people instead being (at home) with Austin, stories like "Jake Gyllenhaal wants to touch my penis".

Stubborn TB said...

really?, can you tell me the criteria why those stories are credible?

And can you tell me why your interpretation of things is the right one? What were the criterias for deciding that?

really? said...

Who said that my interpretation of things is the right one??? I keep saying that all arguments can be questioned and discussed. My criteria for deciding is based on 6 years of following gay celebrity gossip, gossip about Jake and common sense.

destiny said...

THIS IS A JAKE AND AUSTIN BLOG.

You seem to forget that. That is why most people here think they are together. If you don't like it, find another blog.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, are a whole host of arguments being presented here? Is there questioning of different arguments here? Do you agree that Special does not delete everything she disagrees with?

Can you tell me why your criteria that help you form opinions makes them valid and others using those criteria and coming to a different conclusion doesn't make the opinion valid?

really? said...

Thanks Destiny, I love simple, to the point answers.

really? said...

Is there questioning of different arguments here?

I've questioned different things and posters almost always ignore my questions, like Special K did today.

really? said...

THIS IS A JAKE AND AUSTIN BLOG.
You seem to forget that. That is why most people here think they are together. If you don't like it, find another blog.


Is it OK not to believe in BT or those people should find another blog too?

humm said...

Destiny, first of all some here don't believe Jake and Austin has a child or children.
Some here don't think Jake and Austin are together anymore.
And they still can be a fan of Jake and Austin.

Not talking about your emotional feelings about a person close to you when they die is one thing, hanging with Reese dating or fauxmance is another. What should he do, stay in the house depressed and give it all up. What most people do is talk to family or friends. I'm sure Jake talked to his family and friends about what he was experiencing. Whatever Reese was to Jake, I'm sure they talked about Heath's passing. If some could just get over Reese, they might be able to see and understand his actions or respect them. Instead of blaming her or him and PR for everything.
Jake said he did not want to talk about it publicly. It's a done deal.
Why should fans get upset over this? Makes no sense to me.
Unless the fan has some Emotional or irrational emotional investment in the whole thing. Now that gets scary.
Betty White and others chose to speak about their situations. Many others don't but it's not a big issue.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, so you agree that different opinions are posted here, meaning it is accepted to post different opinions?

So, do you agree that what you stated you wanted (the ability to post different opinions here) already exists?

Vanity Fair said...

I have yet to see anyone who says they don't think J&A are a couple post just about Austin. Or even just about Jake. Really the only thing I ever see you do is constantly question others. You don't say "I think....". You say "Stubborn why don't you think... it's just gossip, you don't know anything......"

The first is having a conversation and expressing your opinion, which you are free to do.

The second is trolling.

? said...

I don't think Jake and Austin are still a couple. I have posted about Austin plenty of times. I've posted about Jake only millions of times. Posters don't have to post about Austin if they don't want to. Is that a rule here?

really? said...

So, do you agree that what you stated you wanted (the ability to post different opinions here) already exists?

The ability to post different opinions here does exist, even trolls can post here without their posts being deleted. I forgot to mention one important point - ability to post different JiG opinions without being laughed at or automatically dismissed by posters who 'know' what's going on with Jake, Austin and BTs.

Stubborn TB said...

really?, so what you really want is to be able to post things and have no one challenge it?

really? said...

You don't say "I think....".

Vanity Fair, try reading my posts:

M and M,
one more time: I know Jake is gay, I know his "relationship" with RW was a showmance, I followed that charade from 2006.
My point is that making up 'facts', ignoring facts and logic or turning vague gossip into truths, isn't good for Jake & Austin fandom.
June 3, 2010 11:25 AM

1) what is the objection to Jake being with Austin?
Objection? It's called opinion. I believe Jake and Austin are just friends because with all that work on different locations, for years, they didn't make any visible effort to be at the same place at the same time.
2) what would be the objection to Jake being a father?
Opinion. I don't believe Jake would wrong his own kid and keep BT in the closet and there is almost nothing to support the gossip that Jake and Austin are raising a kid.
June 3, 2010 2:10 PM

I agree that there is no (BT) evidence, but Destiny disagrees so it will be interesting to find out about them.
About huge possibility that there is BT - I thought so during BT Paris pictures discussion, but as time passes by I'm changing my mind into BT non-believer.
June 3, 2010 6:28 PM

really? said...

really?, so what you really want is to be able to post things and have no one challenge it?

Please read my posts before asking questions like that, pretty please.

Stubborn TB said...

I forgot to mention one important point - ability to post different JiG opinions without being laughed at or automatically dismissed by posters who 'know' what's going on with Jake, Austin and BTs.

You say we "automatically dismiss" your opinions. That is your interpretation. Reality is, we disagree with you because we disagree with you. As simple as that.

So again, what you want is to post something without someone posting to disagree with you?

really? said...

So again, what you want is to post something without someone posting to disagree with you?

No. I want posters like you or Special K to be fair and open and say 'stop questioning and find another blog'. Destiny was honest (see 12:45 PM), I respect that.

Stubborn TB said...

No one said to stop questioning.

I have to go shopping now, but it's good to know the real motivation behind your posts here now. You might as well just have said it right away, but I guess saying it out loud just makes it too trollish, huh?

m said...

Funny that the troll is worried about the Mumford guy and Jake when we did not even bring it up. As to the Cavill issue, I think there is truth to it but am keeping an open mind as I said before. There is no reason for Toothy to have confidentiality agreements at ready unless he has occasional need for them. Besides, have you seen how hot Henry looks. Off the charts hot.

Austin has shown remarkable patience throughout the whole Reeking/bearding affair. Jake going to a concert on his own is nothing compared to that.

I think we'll see Jake express himself more freely now that the Disney contract is over. His publicists and managers do work for him, but he has demonstrated a strong need to be obedient and to be liked putting way too much trust in their strategy.

really? said...

Stubborn TB, I don't see anything trollish about insisting that gossip can't be indisputable truth (like BT), or that arguments should be rooted in logic and common sense.

not on his own said...

"Jake going to a concert on his own is nothing compared to that."

In fact he went to the concert with a unidentified blond woman!

"http://i50.tinypic.com/estdz5.jpg"

t said...

2:22 PM - please post tweet/link.

well said...

I am worst than "really" then , I am even not in jake is gay team ( not team at all) but think all these speculations are pretty amusing and I am really curious. I am reading this blog frequently and don't know if that make me troll to say my opinion, I don't think since I respect blog'mind. I just wanted to say many are more open minded than some think.

here said...

"http://i50.tinypic.com/estdz5.jpg"

this is the pic

t said...

Yes, that is the picture of Jake sitting next to a woman. That's it, no info, no link?

prairiegirl said...

Really and well? You're trolls. And you know you are, cut the crap.

In order to detract from that, you focus on accusing some OMGers of making things up and having rules. Read special 's guidelines, disclaimer and mission statement. What do they say?



Thank you.

prairiegirl said...

And I don't even see Reese talked about that much anymore. I was the last one to really bring her up anymore and I haven't even done that hardly for the last few weeks. Reese is pretty much history now - no need to talk about her.

really? said...

"The mission of this blog is to promote friendship and community among fans of Jake Gyllenhaal and Austin Nichols, whatever the nature of their relationship. We strive to have fun, support these actors and each other, and to promote community. Our main goal is to respect Jake Gyllenhaal, Austin Nichols, their relationship, and each other. Insults and name-calling will not be tolerated here."

Mission

Prairiegirl, I don't see anything about people being trolls if they don't believe Jake and Austin are still a couple or fathers. Please post link to that post.

really? said...

Reese is pretty much history now - no need to talk about her.

Who talks about Reese?

just saying said...

maybe the disclamer should be "the mission of this blog is to promote jaustin and their hidden kid...." would be clearer

Net is full of crazy people said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
for t said...

http://twitpic.com/1u2875

Michellemosq
Watchin Jake Gyl put the moves on a girl during Mumford is making me a lil uncomfortable.

t said...

Thanks!

m said...

Jake and the girl are strictly conjecture. He was most likely there alone and just happened to sit next to her. Put the moves on her, yeah right. Just as believable as the Russians.

identified girl said...

m, you are pathetic!! he can out with a friend girl you know, is that too much for your little neurone ( if you have one)

the mystery girl is likely laura marling.

waiting said...

Prairiegirl, I don't see anything about people being trolls if they don't believe Jake and Austin are still a couple or fathers. Please post link to that post.

She Can't. I don't exist.

still waiting said...

Prairiegirl, I don't see anything about people being trolls if they don't believe Jake and Austin are still a couple or fathers. Please post link to that post.

She Can't. It don't exist.

prairiegirl said...

**sigh**

And I wish to go on public record that no, I do not think it is right to hide the kid(s) or his relationship with Austin. I never have. But I have chosen to accept that it is their decision and that it is pointless and a waste of my energy to keep going on about it.

I think he and Austin are in a committed relationship and they have a family. Jake and Austin are going to do what they do to keep it under wraps. People poke ridicule that we don't see "the family" out. That we don't see Jake out to coffee and concerts with his husband. Well, we're not going to! J and A are in the closet.

I have every right to believe what I do. And if you've been lurking for the past six months, I don't need to repeat the pictures, quotes, video, and Ted's mentions to explain how I have come to that belief. Everyone can not believe in BT nor Jake with Austin. But to not believe either and repeatedly question why why why when you know darn well why, what and who if you have lurked on OMG at all only says one thing.

You're trolling. And spare me the false outrage, please.

prairiegirl said...

Nope, I am done. You don't deserve the attention.

really? said...

Prairiegirl,

please answer the question, are people trolls if they don't believe Jake and Austin are still a couple or fathers?

idea of the year said...

It would be fun to watch a debate between BT and Non BT ( pretty stupid but fun)

really? said...

But to not believe either and repeatedly question why why why when you know darn well why...

Prairiegirl, that is not true, most of my questions are about specific arguments. It is telling that you and some other posters are coosing to ignore them.

M and M said...

"THIS IS A JAKE AND AUSTIN BLOG. You seem to forget that. That is why most people here think they are together. If you don't like it, find another blog.

For those who seem to think they know so much, it's amazing how those same folks ignore this simple concept. I have no desire to hang around Sarah Palin sites all day long because I know the majority who communion there have a fundamental perspective about Ms. Alaskan Chillbilly that I do not share. Furthermore, it's not like there aren't a variety of sites dedicated to everyone's fancy. WFT2 is there for all who believe that Jake is gay and a promiscuous hornddog who's been saving his seed for the next "Save the Whale," campaign, or the latest Global Green Initiative. or maybe JG Francis, Chris Fischer, Henry Cavill, Neil Patrick Harris, --fill in the blank---. Maybe throw in that Paris Fountainboy too. Or, maybe Heath when he crosses over to the other side. A free-spirited Hollywood player much too shallow and lust-filled to have a husband, never mind offspring. Geesh, so wonder Jake's so thin. I'm surprised he has enough strength to get out of bed at all. Then, there are also plenty of mainstream sites for those who think JiS. An ubermale, saving himself for that one right woman he's been waiting his whole adult life to find, but just can't seem to locate (After all this time, I'm thinkin' Jake might need a GPS device or change the prescription on those contacts of his). Where a platonic picture of Jake sitting next to a girl at a concert, automatically means they are going to the "submarine races" right after the show. I mean, why else would Jake be sitting right next to her if there wasn't some naughty nookie going on. Open minds are great. But, somehow continually calling people pathetic, ridiculous, brown-nosers, stupid, hausfraus, and looney, hardly points to an "I'm interested in what you have to say," receptiveness.

Hmmm. Now, that I think about it, I'm actually thinking of forwarding Rush Limbaugh's e-mail to Jake since Mr. Oxycontin appears to have no problem in locating the right woman. Hell, he's about to marry for the fourth time already. C'mon, Jake, it can't be that hard.

really? said...

For those who seem to think they know so much, it's amazing how those same folks ignore this simple concept.

Please stop playing stupid and tell us what are the OMG rules: only posters who believe Jake and Austin are still together and have two kids are welcome, others should find another blog? Talk about possibly promiscuous Jake is unacceptable? One BT is acceptable? Come on, tell us since this is such simple concept.

Special K said...

Well Really, surprisingly it is not all about you. Sometimes it is all about me and what I need to do off the blog.

Busy me day today, getting ready for family to visit, coordinating flights, doing errands that everyone has, and some pampering for myself. (the audacity of me!)

Yes people have the right to express their opinion here and they do. Have I deleted you once? The answer is no. And they also have the right not to have answer badgering questions.

Asking once or maybe twice is fine, but what you are doing is it not that.

You seem to think that is okay to cross exam every person who post here.

It is not about the answers it is about the attention. Taking the attention away from the things you don't want people to talk about, and also giving attention to you.

Obviously not everyone here agrees on everything, but it doesn't end up in endless round of interrogation. Because that is what is it from you, not a discussion.

really? said...

You seem to think that is okay to cross exam every person who post here.
That is OK on other forums and blogs, people don't mind explaining their opinions.

Taking the attention away from the things you don't want people to talk about, and also giving attention to you.
People talk what they want to talk about. I ask questions about arguments I don't understand or points that don't make sense to me.

Because that is what is it from you, not a discussion.
It would be a discussion if posters had balls to answer my questions.

destiny said...

Great posts Special, M and M (lol) and PG.

really? said...

But, somehow continually calling people pathetic, ridiculous, brown-nosers, stupid, hausfraus, and looney, hardly points to an "I'm interested in what you have to say," receptiveness.

M and M,

please don't blame other people for your inexperience, old TBs can recognize trolly.

Florida Tom said...

prairiegirl said...
Nope, I am done. You don't deserve the attention.



I think that is a very good suggestion. This battle has been going on for over a week. I think it might be a good time to just start ignoring these people. Let them have their say but let them talk to themselves. Obviously the gym photos didnt go over too well with some folks. Time to ignore.

I have to speak up said...

please don't blame other people for your inexperience, old TBs can recognize trolly.

Don't remember M&M blaming anyone for anything. That comment was hilarious and hardly inexperienced. M&M just about summed up the kind of hypocritical, obnoxious and disruptive trolling that's been going on around here practically all week. And that especially means you too, really? I have an open mind and want to hear what these posters have to say. They seem pretty knowledgeable and articulate to me. Stop the interrogations and let's get back to the fun. Yes, I know. I must be a synchophant (sp?). I hope you guys will just ignore these troublemakers. They probably know there are lots of people who stop by just to lurk. Might be they're afraid we might be "converted." LOL.

really? said...

I have to speak up,

Trolly is calling people "pathetic, ridiculous, brown-nosers, stupid, hausfraus, and looney". I'm not trolly. Old TBs can spot the difference. Hope this helps.

M and M said...

I think that is a very good suggestion. This battle has been going on for over a week. I think it might be a good time to just start ignoring these people. Let them have their say but let them talk to themselves. Obviously the gym photos didnt go over too well with some folks. Time to ignore.

ITA.

really? said...

Stop the interrogations and let's get back to the fun.

I expect answers to my simple questions about 'find another blog', I'm not amused by posters who call me troll or PR just because they can't admit that their "arguments" are invalid.

Sophia Bush: Stella McCartney Sexy said...

Sophia Bush steps out in style as she does some shopping at the Stella McCartney boutique on Thursday (June 3) in West Hollywood.

The 27-year-old actress rocked knee-high nude banded sandals for her trip out. Super chic!

Over the weekend, Sophia, her BF and One Tree Hill co-star Austin Nichols and pal Jake Gyllenhaal all hit the gym together in L.A. to work up a sweat!

JJared

Seaweed said...

Special, you found the correct word to describe what's been going on here of late. BADGERING. Tom, you see it pretty clearly as well as PG does. This has been a full on assault this last week or so. Time to return to the 'don't feed the trolls' mantra I guess.

The crowd here is always capable of spirted discussion and see-sawing on the bulk of so called points of view,analysis of daily photos and commentary from the paps and various media.

Ignore the interrogators and respond to the ones who are eager to live and learn, it's not really that hard to pick them out. It's almost as if the self appointed "christians" are looking to crucify someone, anyone, over daring to bring up a Jake and Austin centric point of view.

I'm here continually, won't go away, and will always believe, so if you're here to obfuscate and try and divide and conquer then just kindly take an overdose of fuck off pills.

Kudo's to Special and those who are much better at voicing those positions that most of the regulars here are accustomed to, keep the faith and thanks.

really? said...

Ignore the interrogators and respond to the ones who are eager to live and learn, it's not really that hard to pick them out.

Don't worry Seaweed, everyone is ignoring hard questions, like that case of the repeated amnesia about Austin's interview when he mentioned dating Sophia Bush.

Lurker said...

Really, nobody gives a flying fuck what you want answered.

And I know that is you over at WFT2 babbling about Taylor Hanson and other nonsense. You have totally lost your mind.

Seaweed said...

Many years ago I was taught to evaluate people not by the things they say... but on observation of the things that they do.

If anything, what I have seen of Austin leads me to believe something far different than what you are prepared to accept just because he gives a calculated response to a reporter who might be digging.

Frankly, really? your statement above gives your intentions away.

M and M said...

Okay, I'm going to embrace the moment. That's right Jake. You are not the only one who can be a hipster.

Did you notice the 1 lb tin of coffee that Jake purchased at Lamill in that JJ photo from yesterday? Let's see, that should come to about 40-45 cups of 6 oz coffee drinks. For someone who supposedly gets his coffee on the go in the mornings, wonder what he's going to do with all that "super-domesticated" House Blend? Either he entertains a lot, or maybe someone else might be enjoying that fresh brewed flavor when he gets home! There's nothing like a stimulating, hot steaming drink, right after a stimulating, hot steaming romp under the sheets!

That a boy, Jake. Down with one swallow!


Coffee Bean Run

really? said...

Lurker The Mind Reader,

thanks for the laugh!

LOL said...

"Hmmm. Now, that I think about it, I'm actually thinking of forwarding Rush Limbaugh's e-mail to Jake since Mr. Oxycontin appears to have no problem in locating the right woman. Hell, he's about to marry for the fourth time already."

It's precisely because he can't find THE right woman he wastes his tima trying one after an other! lol

really? said...

Frankly, really? your statement above gives your intentions away.

I'm listening, what did I give away about my intentions?
(BTW, my intention is to make posters think before they start making ridiculous "arguments" or bending facts.)

Seaweed said...

I like your way of thinking M & M and have always enjoyed your take on all things J&A.

If a good coffee is like morning medicine then it might be fairly often that Jake hears "now take your medicine... open wide!"

Loving mental images... they may not always be acurate but damn they certainly are entertaining, and isn't that what some of this is all about?

Special K said...

Great eye there M&M.

Know all I hear in my head is Squeeze - "Black Coffee in Bed"

Seaweed said...

Someone, maybe you, told M & M to hold up the mirror the other day, perhaps YOU need to do that really? When you speak of ridiculous arguements....

Marcus said...

I like my coffee black!

M and M said...

If anything, what I have seen of Austin leads me to believe something far different than what you are prepared to accept just because he gives a calculated response to a reporter who might be digging.

Absolutely. Whether dealing with politicians, a colleague at work or highly polished and prepared Hollywood types, the behavior is often far more telling than the words. Of course, nowadays, because of a far more savvy and skeptical public, even behavior is being manufactured to tell a story from a pre-sanctioned point of view. Like that Jake/Reese kisscam moment at the Lakers game in 1/09. Or, the proliferation of celebrity fauxmances so Internet Bios and Google Images can be awash with "the truth" that only PR wants you to see.

really? said...

Someone, maybe you, told M & M to hold up the mirror the other day, perhaps YOU need to do that really?

No. Please read my posts first, then trash me for asking stupid and unappropriate questions. Fair enough?

Seaweed said...

Didn't Jack and Ennis like their coffee so strong that the spoon stood 'straight up' in the mug?

Seaweed said...

Just asked a simple question there bucky, don't get your drawers in a knot.

I never claim to have a photo-graphic memory, in fact I'm often know to have a porno-graphic memory instead.

Relax those bunched up crack creepers of yours asking? and enjoy the convo...

M and M said...

I like my coffee black!

LOL. Could be that Jake and Austin might like their brew with a lot of sugar and cream! They're awfully lucky guys. No need to even go to the refrigerator.

really? said...

Just asked a simple question there bucky, don't get your drawers in a knot.

And you got a simple answer, didn't you?

destiny said...

That a boy, Jake. Down with one swallow!

:-D

Marcus said...

I was impressed! Such skill!

Seaweed said...

That's so true M & M, people in general are getting better at that but especially those in the entertainment field. Masters of deception. It's no wonder that a talented and keen observer can point out the 'tells' when someone is being disengenious. (I'm not always good with some of my spelling) Reading between the lines is a great skill that is sharpened by observing that particular person as often as is possible.

Seaweed said...

Not an unappropriate question, poor english *wags finger* you may have meant inappropriate instead, but in any case your simply reply was noted. Don't get testy with me now.... hang in there, hope you don't mind our J&A speculation too much. Stay calm.

M and M said...

Are all your mirrors broken M and M? LMAO You can use some of thi profoujd advice also M and M.
^^^
Here's the quote, Seaweed. But, don't be concerned that you didn't quite grasp the meaning behind the hieroglyphics. There's no way you could glean anything comprehensible from the actual comment. Or, the spelling.

Seaweed said...

My bad....

Sentence should read... in any case your SIMPLE reply was noted.

damn laptop keyboards!

really? said...

poor english *wags finger* you may have meant inappropriate instead

Yes, sorry! *hides under desk*

Seaweed said...

Thanks M & M,

Yea, that was a convoluted sentence of sorts wasn't it. We Canadians a know to be a bit pedantic when it comes to the english language. We need to be humoured for it by times.

Seaweed said...

Honest to God, this was a keyboard bastardization.... in any case I was intending to say:

We Canadians are know to be....

mea culpa. (that's latin from high school - regardless I failed the subject.)

Come out from under the desk really? Appreciate you loosening up a little. Duly noted.

Seaweed said...

And before anyone asks, NO I haven't been drinking as of yet tonight. Just bored cause there is no hockey game on tonight and bugger all on TV.

You're stuck with me ... sorry!

really? said...

Come out from under the desk really?

No! I have my English dictionary to keep me company.

Seaweed said...

Damit PG, I think I scared them all away. What now?

Tom ? You out there?

Special? You doing little old lady crafts tonight?

DL comment said...

'Sex,' 'Prince' Deserted as 'Shrek' Leads Weak Memorial Weekend

After his relationship with Reese, people just weren't interested in seeing him in another fantasy spectacle.

Seaweed said...

Now I'm getting a bit nervous, holding down the fort alone... just really? and I.

So what's new with you really? I mean REALLY, really?

M and M said...

Reading between the lines is a great skill that is sharpened by observing that particular person as often as is possible.

You've got that right. Jake use to talk about how he's the type to demand honesty from people. Always pushing relationships forward. Evidently, he's the exception to that rule. Speaking of PR control that American Way interview was interesting on a number of levels. Especially, this one:

On the day of the interview, I arrived at the Disney building 10 minutes early, and Jake came 10 minutes late. During the 20 minutes I waited, I dealt with two different publicists who went over the guidelines of the interview. Jake was escorted by yet another handler when he finally appeared...

really? said...

Black & White tour DVD
Ricky Martin - Tal vez

Seaweed said...

Thanks really?

I haven't seen Ricky in some time, this was excellent.

really? said...

Glad you liked it! I'll post one more video, I use every opportunity to promote Ricky, lol :)

Seaweed said...

I'm still here... go for it.

really? said...

It's OK if you hate it :)

Ednita Nazario Feat. Ricky Martin

M and M said...

That was a wonderful video of Ricky. The man can definitely connect to his audience with a sensual ease that is drool worthy. My Spanish is a little rusty, but I loved this passage,

"Maybe it was me who did not give you a whole night
Maybe I've never been what you expected
And was not there when you needed me
You may not hear, maybe I neglected
Maybe I forgot that I loved you."


Aww. That was lovely, really? See how nice it is when you're able to play well with others. *smile* Thanks!

Seaweed said...

I have one for you also... still listening to your most recent Ricky and Ednita video. Great stage presence from both of them.

I love Teddy Thompson and this vid has Rufus and his sister along with Teddy. Hope you like it...

Rufus, Martha & Teddy

Seaweed said...

After BBM and the soundtrack I fell in love with Teddy's voice and his album "Separate Ways" even though "I don't want to say goodbye" was nowhere to be found except the BBM CD.

He and Rufus have a long association that comes from their parents being friends from way back.

Special K said...

Speaking of handlers. Check out the two bodyguards who are not much use in the mass of people.

Jake in Times Square

Seaweed said...

This is great Special, seems like Jake was enjoying the moment... no sense of worry from him, just taking it all in.

Will have to watch TMZ and see how the comments go.

really said...

Rufus, Martha & Teddy
Wow, that was beautiful, thanks!

... still listening to your most recent Ricky and Ednita video.
Make sure to WATCH the video ;)

Seaweed said...

Alright really, I'm going back to watch all of it!

M and M said...

Speaking of handlers. Check out the two bodyguards who are not much use in the mass of people.

Jake sure wanted as many women as possible to get as close as possible, didn't he? His little Prince of Persia harum in touristy Times Square. No way could those bodyguards do zilch. Actually, I'm surprised he was able to wade into a sea of strangers like that.

Special K said...

That clip was from back in the spring when Jake was doing the photoshoot for GQ.

Seaweed said...

Well now, that was SEXY as Hell, very hot, soulfull. Thanks again for that and glad you like Teddy and Rufus.

M and M said...

Loved the Rufus, Martha and Teddy video too, Seaweed. The following lyrics are absolutely haunting:

I'm gonna bathe and shave
And dress myself and eat solo every night
Unplug the phone, sleep alone
Stay way out of sight
Sure it's kind of lonely
Yeah it's sort of sick
Being your own one and only
Is a dirty selfish trick

M and M said...

That clip was from back in the spring when Jake was doing the photoshoot for GQ.

Yes, I did recognize the venue and the outfit, Special. But, slowing down the video allowed me to see how many times Jake kept gesturing for the women to come in closer. This was not a photoshoot to just get Jake with his adoring fans. It was to exclusively capture him surrounded by a bevy of women. Russia anyone?

really said...

Well now, that was SEXY as Hell, very hot, soulfull.

ITA :)

Florida Tom said...

You go Seaweed. I hear ya no hockey tonight. I cant believe that the Flyers are just 2 wins from winning the Stanley Cup. Problem is the Blackhawks are also just 2 wins from winning the Stanley Cup. Great series so far.
Be so sweet for the Flyers to win. They have come out of nowhere to make it this far. Philadelphia and South Jersey is wearing Orange. Go Flyboys.

No Seaweed isnt drunk at keast he didnt sound like he was when I was talking to him a hour or so ago:-)

Seaweed said...

I'm only going to impose one other video on you guys tonight and it's from our local boy Joel Plaskett from Halifax/Dartmouth.

He has a great catalogue of material with his band "the Emergency" but also does a lot of solo gigs and is one prolific writer. Thankfully you can tune up to him on Youtube but I'll point you here first...

Bubbles intoduces Joel Plaskett at the East Coast Music Awards

he kind of puts me in mind of Teddy Thompson in some ways. Hmmmm.

Florida Tom said...

keast = least

Special K said...

That scene was for the photoshoot, so I think he was motioning for as many of them to get closer so they could be in the picture.

Seaweed said...

M & M, thanks for the spanish translate on some of Ricky's lyrics. When you take the time to not only listen, but too soak in the lyrics the songs usually pack a better whallop.

Now, just want to say that I've enjoyed this little impromtu evening... thanks to you all!

Florida Tom said...

Ricky Martin is one one hot man Seaweed and also very talented. He looks so happy and content. Seems like his fans have embraced his decision to come out. I am so happy and proud of him. Jake can have it the same way. I cant wait for that day.

Seaweed said...

I like the tone of optimism in what you say Tom. It would be great if Jake could take that step and let the chips fall where they may. Ultimately it's his decsion to make, I don't mind the wait if it's with the crazy bunch of folks around here, but I do hope that neither we nor Jake and Austin get many more grey hairs while waiting.

M and M said...

I like the drum work and energy of the band, Seaweed. A little Saturday night concert and I didn't even have to leave the house. Thanks!

M and M said...

There's do doubt, Ricky is even sexier because of the confidence and serenity that literally radiates from him. I may be projecting, but I can almost hear him saying, with great joy, and quiet satisfaction: "This is me. All of me."

If really? is still around, could you address Ricky performing barefoot in the first video. Is that something he does often? Or, is it something new?

Snow White said...

Are all your mirrors broken M and M? LMAO You can use some of thi profoujd advice also M and M.


should have been:

Are all of your mirrors broken M and M? LMAO You can use some the this profound advice also M and M.

I'm sure you can match the comment to the post since you've saved it.

M and M said...

I don't mind the wait if it's with the crazy bunch of folks around here....

Hey, I resemble that remark! But, couldn't agree with you more. *big grin*

M and M said...

I'm sure you can match the comment to the post since you've saved it.

Naw, I didn't save it. Just framed it and put in on my living room wall. LOL.

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really said...

Ricky performing barefoot - from what I've seen he doesn't do that at all because he dances all the time, looks like that song was the closing number of the night and Ricky was winding down :)

Seaweed said...

Yeah... I noticed the he was barefoot as well. Nice natural touch. He does have incredible presence and what a voice!

Lucky stiff that gets to crawl in with him every night! (did I say that out loud?) Must be the wine I just started on now that the musical portion of the program appears to be over...

really said...

LOL

covering for 9:13 said...

Silence is golden

M and M said...

Sweet nostalgia. Those were the days of the British Invasion. Oh my god. People use to actually hold each other when they danced! *shakes head* What's this world coming to. LOL!

Nice harmonies. Like a lot of groups influenced by the Mersey Beat. Thanks for the calming interlude!

Le Sigh said...

Sigh. I had forgotten what a great song that is. From my Mom and Dad's day, I heard it often. I loved their music, and I commandeered my Mom's Meet The Beatles album for myself. ;)

Seaweed said...

I'm glad you liked that one M & M becasue I posted that for you, but it came up anonymous. After the re-igntion of the mirror comments I was trying to be clever with the song title in having you exercise some silence instead of a response.

In any case I loved your response to that one. It's been a good night all in all. The music from the British Invasion was pretty awesome, and still is for many of us. Cheers!

Sigh said...

Yes It Is, Yes It Is, Yes It Is, Oh Yes It Is, Yeahhhh ....

Cheers Seaweed! :)

M and M said...

I'm glad you liked that one M & M becasue I posted that for you, but it came up anonymous. After the re-igntion of the mirror comments I was trying to be clever with the song title in having you exercise some silence instead of a response.

Thanks, Seaweed. I loved that video. You just can't beat the British Invasion in terms of the incredible music and amazing cultural impact. Those were the days when innovation was everywhere and the folks in the business suits had not taken over the industry. Creativity ruled over Commerce. Imagine that!

m said...

While weeding the front yard, we realized that someone had stolen the plaque with our house number on it. Who does that? They had to come equipped with a screwdriver and remove 4 screws, so it was pre-planned.I have no idea how long its been gone as I did not pay much attention to it. No financial loss as it's been there many years. I ordered a new one today with both the street name and number on it so it won't be useful to anyone else. But the theft is the oddest thing I've experienced in many years.

Anyway, too tied up with chores today to spend much time here, but I must 2nd the notion that trolls are here for attention, not to make a point and are best ignored.

dreamer said...

"I like the tone of optimism in what you say Tom. It would be great if Jake could take that step and let the chips fall where they may. Ultimately it's his decsion to make"

it would, if he really is of course.

^^^ said...

"really is" what 4:37?

realist said...

Jake is really gay.

prairiegirl said...

Good morning! Sorry to have missed out on joining discussion last night. I was out although I don't think I would've been a good contributor since I wasn't familiar with the musical people discussed anyway. I'm mostly mainstream pop/rock, I'm afraid.

prairiegirl said...

Sorry to hear about your house number theft, m. That is just weird.

I have been thinking about the keys in Austin's hands and as someone who went to aerobic classes and health clubs for years, I don't know what I was thinking. Girls have purses but the guys always did what Austin was doing which was merely carry them in his hand. He had spandex on and spandex has no pockets. I'm such a doofus.

Actually, I am afraid what the keys show to me is that Austin lives in his own house. Unless Jake took them to his car in another location but that makes no sense whatsoever.

That is a real cannonball to my theory on Jaustin. I have to be honest and say I was wrong when I know I was wrong. All I ever want to know is the truth, no matter what it is.

prairiegirl said...

And it wasn't just a theory, it was a belief.

Special K said...

PG, could it be that those are Austin car keys and that he going to pick up his own car?

Sorry I can believe that Austin is living in his own place, after all these years of hearing about superdomesticating.

While he may still have a place for show or whatever, don't think that has been home for a long time.

really? said...

Actually, I am afraid what the keys show to me is that Austin lives in his own house.

*faints*

Every trolly who is or has ever been here said...

We <<<3 you, prairiegirl