While in Uruguay, Austin should take advantage of the culture and learn a few dance moves for floor. The most popular dance in Uruguay and in Argentina of course is the tango.
Early in the history of the tango, it was considered immoral with its flirting music. What about those moves?
The story of Tango as told is that it started with the gauchos of Argentina. They wore chaps that had hardened from the foam and sweat of the horses body. Hence to gauchos walked with knees flexed. They would go to the crowded night clubs and ask the local girls to dance. Since the gaucho hadn't showered, the lady would dance in the crook of the man's right arm, holding her head back. Her right hand was held low on his left hip, close to his pocket, looking for a payment for dancing with him. The man danced in a curving fashion because the floor was small with round tables, so he danced around and between them.
The dance spread throughout Europe in the 1900's. Originally popularized in New York in the winter of 1910 - 1911, Rudolph Valentino then made the Tango a hit in 1921.
Tango is earthy and dramatic. Although walking movements dominate, Tango walks, having a "stalking" or "sneaking" character, are unlike the walks of other ballroom dances. Movements are sometimes slow and slithery, and other times sharp and stacatto, such as a quick foot flick or a sharp head snap to promenade position.
The tango is a passionate dramatic dance, if you have every watched a couple tango you can see the drama and passion that the evokes.
Who would he know who understands the ways of the gaucho and would be comfortable with hands slipped in their back pocket? Who could bring out such fiery passion?
Digital dance - mere flirtation - we are talking a full Texas Tango.
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Uruguay with Me?
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If you want to dance the dance you have to put a name on the dance card.
How? Click other and give yourself a name. What name? What ever you want to call yourself.
If you really believe in what you are saying sign your name to it.
Sorry to repeat myself, but I ended up being the last post on the previous thread, so re-posted. You don't have to read it twice!
"it is hard for them to keep it at a friendly level. They are trying hard, focusing on work and dating other people but I expect them to get back together soon or late. They have no idea how to handle it in HW, with the pressure etc, Austin has no desire to handle paps 24/7 but it is impossible to keep it undercover.
Jake and Reese are together, sure using the media to publicize their affair. Jake likes her and she has been very sweet with him. He is going through some other issues as well and she has been there for him. Lots of affection but the fire is elsewhere. Ready to explode any time I am ready to bet."
I'm with ECF, this makes the most sense to me. Of course, we have no way of knowing if this is true but it could certainly fit with the current sitch.
My POV is that Jeese being real does not make Jaustin fiction. I'm convinced they (Jake and Austin)were together for up to a couple of years. No convincing reports at all during that time of either of them being "lady-killers", just vague cover-ups with various girls.
The next big "relationship" Jake possibly has is a serious one with an older woman. I'm not saying young, gorgeous, successful str8 guys in their mid-20s aren't capable of committment but a LOT of young guys in his place would be at the Playboy mansion, or like Heath and hitting on every model/actress in town.
Jake seems to need support and companionship a lot - again, not to say young str8 guys don't want those things but I don't think Jake is str8, and I think he and Austin have been through the wringer to keep their relationship going. Maybe Reese provides that for Jake, and short of being under the bed nobody here (including trolls) can say whether that has become sexual or not. It could well have, especially if Austin is just not willing to keep risking so much and has backed away from a full-time r/ship.
Unlike the poster above who implies we are all singletons who have never known passion I think most posters on here have life experience. Speaking from that there are some people who you just never stop loving, but you just can't be with for various reasons, including societal. Maybe Jake and Austin will get back to each other again. Maybe not.
That's what attracted me to the Toothy stories, and Jake and Austin. Jake's life is none of my business, but I recognize some parallels with my own life, and that's what keeps me hooked. And I'm a movie fanatic, so as long as he keeps doing films I want to see I will keep going to them.
Let's see how long Jeese stays going. If I'd never heard of Toothy I would say Jake and Reese are a mis-match. But it's his life. Just hope he eases up on the PR - he doesn't need to do it.
Ooooooh mucho sexy and romantic! He must sing to his woman too. ;)
You know what I just realized about Jeese? Looking at that video of them at the Napa bakery, he looks like this magnificent, broad-shouldered, long-legged, firm-assed peacock, and she looks like a mousy severe peanhen next to him. She's really a pretty woman tho, he must outdazzle her. ;)
Thanks for reposting Max. I'm one of those who has had the nagging feeling that J&A may have called it quits for now because the pressure of the HW closet was just too much for them to handle. We know that they've had a tempestuous relationship in the past where they've been on and off. Ted implied that they cooled things off in 2005 after they were caught and warned by the police. Then he stated that they got back together in Nov. 2005 with the bf thinking it was for good this time around. I think they broke things off after Lakers II last year when the gossip was at its craziest and then got back together later that summer. That's why I also think that it's quite possible that they decided to try to be just friends around the time the ring disappeared. Problem is that it's very hard to be just friends when there's so much passion involved. I do believe that they've seen one another, I do believe Ted's sighting in NYC and I do believe the whole Reeke affair is being orchestrated to prove once and for all that Jake is straight. It reminds me of Jake hooking back up with Kirsten in 2005 after he was caught with Austin. I also believe that they will get back together. It may all be fanfic but it works for me. And since nobody knows the truth I'm sticking with the story that seems the most plausible to me. Time will tell so I keep waiting and enjoying these two actors.
And thanks to FNL for the new "FNL" info.
As I said yesterday whether Jeese is real or fake doesn't matter to me. I have no interest in that relationship. NADA! In actually I have no interest in Jake right now. I didn't come to WFT or OMG because I am a crazed fan. I came because I loved BBM and actually believed Jake was gay and then involved with Austin Nichols. Ain't happening right now. I still belive Jake is gay. That is not gonna change. I also believe that Jake and Austin were or are lovers. That will also never change.
So for now I have no interest in dicussing Jeese or J and A. I love this site and I love the people who post. I also love the really nice people I have met. So I am gonna be here and hopefullly at some point be proud of who I think Jake really is. He can't be all product and eventually that will have to show.
What I am going to in the mean time is bring up issues that do interest me from here on in. We missed a huge chance here to honor NPH when he and his bf went to the Emmys together as an out couple. That was so exciting and so important. I hope to bring up events and moments like this that effect the way that same sex couples are seen throughout the world. Hopefully Jake will become a part of that process again. Right now he is not. Feel free to join me.
I know I sound like a broken record, but I still believe they are together. Despite Jake's down in the mouth looks of late, he is still smiling when are around people from other circles in his life. During the summer of the Sad Wolf Boy, there was no smiling and no light to his eyes. He might not have that around Reese but he does have it when with RDJ, and Austin's friends who he is still hanging out with. I don't think this would be the case if they are truly broken up. That summer of no fun should be example of the boy who gave up, he was so bummed out. Even if he was hanging with Matteo and Lance.
I do think they have their ups and downs and this new thing puts more than a strain on them. But I don't think Jake would be all smiles on a Monday and being dragged around Rome by week's end if they had broken up. He would have been sulking in the hotel room.
The whole current circus is a cover to take the heat off of them. While it is being orchestrated poorly it is doing just that. Taking the heat off -- because who's talking about Ted's outing - they're all talking about Jeese and if it's fact or fiction.
They going on vacation alone, kissing, holding hands, touching body parts. They are having sex, anyone who thinks the aren't is just kidding themselves.
For Reese to be this way in public means she got to have the major hots for Jake. You never saw her and the ex act anyway like this.
I'll credit that to having a really really bad marriage. But I'll also use that to support Jake & Reese being the real deal. Because we have to assume that her marriage was in the tanker for a certain amount of time or at the very least majorly strained, yet she and the ex put on a untied front for the press, so which she was acting happily married she never took to PDA's to prove her point. There was drunk Ryan kissing her at on of the award shows but that was it.
Hey 9:48 to dance on this dance floor you need a name.
Like I said, 9.48, Jeese being real does not preclude the Jake and Austin r/ship. I think that was real too.
" They going on vacation alone, kissing, holding hands, touching body parts. They are having sex, anyone who thinks the aren't is just kidding themselves."
Famous last words - from Rock Hudson and Doris Day. They had separate bedrooms too. ;) You'd think that TR Knight and his paramour on Grey's Anatomy were having sex too.
Just because Jake and Reese aren't on stage doesn't mean that they aren't acting. When she looked at the paparazzi before kissing him on the video, all I could hear was 'lights, camera, action'.
You can fake PDA (and these two seem to need an exotic locale in order to do it), but you can't fake intimacy.
. . . yet she and the ex put on a untied front . . .
Sounds like Reeke right now! ;)
For anyone interested in a good movie about the tango, I highly recommend The Tango Lesson by Sally Potter. The soundtrack is amazing too and features cellist Yo-Yo Ma.
Didn't one article say they went to their room and never came out. Now they were riding bikes around the Napa Valley. I like how PR keeps changing the story hoping one of the versions will be believable. Keep selling, no one is buying.
You are right Tom, we should celebrate NPH. I'm still not buying this either. :)
I know nothing about the tango, so I found the history of the tango fascinating. Not to mention thinking of the gauchos makes me think of BBM.
Destiny, you just put an image of Jack and Ennis dancing the tango in my head! :) Maybe that was a deleted scene?
The dance reminds me of Tony Leung and Leslie Cheung danced in the kitchen in "Happy Together", in a rundown apartment in Argentina...
Who do you Austin watch his DVDs with these days?
^^Wow, such lovely images . . . :)
I'd have loved to see Ennis and Jack dancing too. I haven't seen Happy Together.
Urugay - too cute, Special K! :D ;-)
Winterbird -
I think he was watching it with Jake. But I bet he wanted to watch the movie to get a sense of Argentina and Uruguay not because the movie is set there(which it is not), but to really enjoy the time he has there while filming. I think he really embraces new experiences and new places.
^Isn't the new thought that the film he rented was My Beautiful Laundrette?
i hope so too :)
i tend to believe the NYC digital dance sighting (cos i am hopelss roamntic) and i think the Reeke charade reeks a kneejerk reaction, and if jake has cut it quit with austin over the summer, then his team shouldn't have anything to react to. JMO.
Does anyone read Ent. Lawyer's website? Yes, some of the gossip on that site has been nutty but I enjoy reading the blind items and a lot of tidbits Ent. Lawyer posts. Anyway, about two months ago, when it looked like Jeese was on the decline, Ent Lawyer posted what was originally the plan for Jeese: they were to go around to all this different locales, meet in hotels and have these hot and heavy sessions--all to be reported by the press via their pr. Is that not prescient of Ent. Lawyer or what? (BTW, he thinks they're fake and Jake is gay).
i hope so too :)
i tend to believe the NYC digital dance sighting (cos i am hopelss roamntic) and i think the Reeke charade reeks a kneejerk reaction, and if jake has cut it quit with austin over the summer, then his team shouldn't have anything to react to. JMO."
I completely agree.
Hi 12:21 and 12:22
Do you have a name. I am so bad at numbers - I let some else pick my numbers for the lottery.
What will be interesting in the future is if Jake is "allowed" to be snapped with his old friends. Specifically Austin, of course.
I'm expecting an on-set trailer visits from Reese to be reported as well when Jake starts filming. Which is code for hot sex, natch, unless it's two guy friends :-)
I've seen quite a few pictures (here and there) lately of women gazing up at Austin. I think women find him very attractive.
Oh Man, this is excruciating, thinking of him having to do this and watching all this unfold. You can really feel the strain, and it is truly nauseating. And yes, troll, we realize people make love. This probably will have the desired effect on the minivan majority. I figure once alles klar they'll think it's safe for him to be seen with Austin again. Great post above (1st), Max. :)
Oh, forgot to add - thanks for the FNL info, FNL! Austin's character sounds really interesting, and I love the name Noah *sigh*. Looking forward to watching. :)
Max --
About the pictures. Good question. And the trailer visit -- well you now they won't be playing backgammon. : )
And Austin Attractive?
Hello? Hell Yeah. Like Winterbird say he looks like a combination of Tom Brady and Matt Damon. And then just roll him around in a Ralph Lauren ad.
Speaking of which ... Matt Damon was trying to hand off his Sexiest Man award to Tom. “He’s like a taller, better-looking version of me anyway,” Damon wrote in a letter to People actually declining the Sexiest honors.
Sexy Matt gives props to QT/QB
What do you bet Austin picture was in a pile at People's office not for the whole Jaustin stuff but in their round table for the Sexiest Issue.
Max, not just the women, there's at least one hot bachelor who feels the same way ;)
On another note, I know it's already yesterdays news again, but I thought this was worth mentioning:
If you click on the picture of Reeke kissing on PopSugar you get another picture of them in that restaurant and it seems to have been taken right before they kissed.
And now guess what: Jake is looking right at the camera in that one. So much for them just thinking they were unnoticed (which is stupid in itself since they were sitting in a small cafe surrounded by other people, but well...).
Jake is also wearing sunglasses indoors again, which just screams romantic date, doesn't it?!?
And just for the record, I too think Jake and Austin are still together.
There would be no reason for him and Reese to be so desperately trying to convince people that they're genuine, if there wasn't something there that he doesn't want the public to know.
Why beard when he's single and therefore not in any danger of being photographed with a boyfriend, but not when he's in a relationship, which could at any point be revealed?
Jackson's postgame comments get NBA's attention
Associated Press
Updated: November 14, 2007, 10:39 PM ET
1st and Ten Reacts to Phil Jackson's CommentsHOUSTON -- Coach Phil Jackson said he deserved the reprimand he got from the NBA on Wednesday for making a sexual reference in a comment following the Los Angeles Lakers' loss in San Antonio.
The Spurs made 13 3-pointers in their 107-92 victory on Tuesday night, and Jackson was asked if too much penetration was leading to open outside shooters.
"We call this a 'Brokeback Mountain' game, because there's so much penetration and kickouts," Jackson said. "It was one of those games."
The 2005 film, which won three Oscars, depicts two cowboys who conceal their homosexual affair.
"But in retrospect, it wasn't really funny," Jackson said before the Lakers played Houston on Wednesday night. "When you take it out of context, it wasn't funny. It was a poor attempt at humor and I deserved to be reprimanded by the NBA."
Still, Jackson couldn't resist making another joke as he apologized.
"If I've offended any horses, Texans, cowboys or gays, I apologize," Jackson said.
Jackson thanked beat writers and other journalists who covered Tuesday's game for dismissing the comment as an innocent joke. He said several of them laughed when he said it.
The NBA did not.
NBA spokesman Brian McIntyre said: "The remarks are in poor taste, and the Lakers have assured us such remarks will not occur in the future."
Jackson admitted he should've known better -- that coaches can't get away with the jokes that Jay Leno and David Letterman do for a living on their late-night talk shows.
"It's societal right now," he said. "Some people can do it. Some people can't. That's something that's appropriate for certain categories."
Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) president Neil G. Giuliano issued a statement saying: "Phil Jackson's been coaching long enough that he should be able to talk about the Lakers' performance without resorting to cheap gay jokes."
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
I congratulate the Lakers and the NBA on their stand. I am also very happy that peolple like Phil Jackson are now being called on the carpet for being a$$holes.
If I've offended any horses, Texans, cowboys or gays, I apologize," Jackson said
He still doesn't get it. And yes Tom he is a a$$hole.
I'm very proud of the Lakers and the NBA right now. :)
From Celtics fan to the Lakers and the NBA -- Thanks for being a leading in Professional Sports.
stb: I went to the popsugar site and clicked on the picture you mentioned. He is not looking directly at the camera, he has his head down and Reese is looking straight ahead, but they are not facing the window. It was taken from the outside but appears that Jake and Reese are sitting to the side against the wall, it doesn't look like they are seated like the rest, it looks like they are waiting to be seated to me. Neither uis looking at the camera.
Max I'm quite open to your theory :), make perfect sense.
So he is rebound boy and she is rebound woman or at least somebody, something to hold on to. And clearly there are not deep genuine feelings of love as between lovers suppose to be , because then I believe they wouldn't be willing make their relationship into "public theater" and pimp each other to Press but rather protect the beloved partner from prying eyes and enjoy him/her as Jake once did with Austin or allegedly was doing almost year with her.
So they lick each other wounds and along the way make the most benefit of it as possible.
sad
I know I shouldn't, I'm sorry Special, but here goes:
??, Jake might be slightly looking down, it's hard to tell what with him wearing sunglasses, but as the only one in the whole picture he is facing in the direction of the camera.
But once again, why would a couple that wants to have a private weekend make out in a crowded restaurant? Why would a couple that doesn't want anyone to know they went away for the weekend have a conversation with several waiters while rubbing each others back?
How come no one ever managed to get even one cellphone picture of them being couply (not that anyone got a photo of them even together) prior to Ted outing Jake? How come no one ever got pictures like that of Ryan and Reese or Kirsten and Jake?
After this weekend and how it was "announced" on Friday already, there are only two possibilities: 1) It's a showmance and they're going out of their way to make people believe it's real or
2)They are a real couple, but they're now pimping the relationship out to the max
Either way, it's obvious there's no real love there between them or else they would treat the relationship with the respect a real one deserves.
Stubborn, you need to enlarge that pic. As someone else just said, Jake is looking down, probably at the menu. And he doesn't have his sunglasses on in that particular pic.
I think your eyes are playing tricks on you.
stubborn said. . .
(which is stupid in itself since they were sitting in a small cafe surrounded by other people, but well...).
And just wanted to bring this up as well - have you seen a photo of the interior of Slanted Door? It is MASSIVE. Not a small cafe at all
You said that he was looking directly at the camera in your 1st comment which was false. So now he is looking slightly down and it's hard to see because of the sunglasses, which one is it?
It doesn't look like he is aware to me.
How is it obvious to you that there is no real love between them becuase they are not treating the relationship with respect? Are you for real?? They are 2 self-absorbed HW actors. If one was to choose option 2 and they are real and they are pimping their relationship now, then that doesn't speak highly of either of them. If it's fake then shouldn't they have doen this months ago? Some alleged "insider said months ago that they were going to go public after Rendition, and they were right. Unfortunately they are going overboard, but that's their decision, because I believe they are calling the shots and their PR are more than happy to help them.
? Going overboard must the understatement of the year.
On a brighter note, can we have more pictures of Austin please, the current one you have up is just delightful, lucky woman whoever she is.
Well, looks like I did it.
Now making out surrounded by lots of other costumers in a restaurant (it doesn't matter how big it is) is being private and some "insider" that has been saying Reeke would come out after the car pooling pics a few months back, after Reese being seen in MV, after the LA premiere and then after the Rome premiere is credible. And let's not forget that using your relationship for publicity means true love.
And once again, let's all just forget the first pictures came right after Jake was directly outed by Ted...
Looking at the pictures again I will admit that the sunglasses distracted me, since he seems to have pushed them up onto his head which makes it look like he's looking right at the camera, I'm sorry about that.
But that doesn't change the fact everybody is looking in one direction while his head is turned to the direction of the camera.
And it doesn't change the fact that they wanted someone to report about and possibly photograph the kissing.
Meg -
That is Emily Rose Austin's co-star from JFC.
I still wonder if JFC will get a nod at this year's Golden Globes. You never know!
Thanks, she looks likes she's enjoying dancing with Austin, but then again who wouldn't.
have you seen a photo of the interior of Slanted Door?
I don't need to crawl the web for pics, I had lunch there on several occasions. They were on Valencia for long time in a more modest setting, then they moved to the Embarcadero area. Yes, it is a pretty big restaurant, and always rather crowded. If you are a pair of very famous HW actors and go make out at Slanted Doors it is rather obvious you want people to notice, bring out their camera cellphones and go tell everybody they know that they saw Jake and Reese make out over lunch. And plese stop by the window and take a good pic we will do the kiss again for you to snap. No kidding.
Great Vietnamese/French cuisine btw.
have you seen a photo of the interior of Slanted Door?
I don't need to crawl the web for pics, I had lunch there on several occasions. They were on Valencia for long time in a more modest setting, then they moved to the Embarcadero area. Yes, it is a pretty big restaurant, and always rather crowded. If you are a pair of very famous HW actors and go make out at Slanted Doors it is rather obvious you want people to notice, bring out their camera cellphones and go tell everybody they know that they saw Jake and Reese make out over lunch. And plese stop by the window and take a good pic we will do the kiss again for you to snap. No kidding.
Great Vietnamese/French cuisine btw.
Spesh, thanks for the tango history and the pic of Austin with Emily Rose. I kind of liked the dress-pulling one myself :) A has that Matt Damon vibe, far more than Jake.
Thanks also bltb for your post on the previous thread (the nuclear one) and the real Me for yours.
I'd like to reiterate FWIW that I haven't a single doubt that this is a showmance. We will never *know*, because when someone writes the book, A will definitely get a mention but R will still be presented as the real thing. It's happened to every closeted star since HW began. And this folks is why it's never an issue for the woman - it's just never owned up to. Sad days.
Also FWIW the whole SanFran trip was signposted here LONG before it happened ... despite posters' efforts to the contrary on the previous thread.
We are being snowed, and this is a war of attrition. Don't fall for it.
Seeing all the pictures of Jake looking not so happy this last month made me think about the time when he still genuinly smiled regularly.
And that could of course lead to nothing else but thinking of Jakes "Austin smile" ;)
That little smile that just lights up Jakes face and you can always tell that Austin is close in person or thoughts when it shows up on his face.
This is what tells you that there is love for another person more than any over-the-top PDA ever can.
And now the 1 million dollar question:
Whose name do you think popped into Jakes head when Regis asked him about his social life or what he did after the taping of Lettermann?
^ So lovely, stubborn *.
When will we get the real Jake back?
Talk about a happy chappy! Those smiles express such joy and happiness,he can't contain it.
Here's hoping those grins come back soon.
We will never *know*, because when someone writes the book, A will definitely get a mention but R will still be presented as the real thing"
Not if Andrew Morton writes the book.
Lovely, scylla. That Borders smile will always own my soul, sigh. So completely unguarded and full of love. As I've said before, it cemented J & A for me for good. And the Lakers photo right above it in your collage becomes more special every day. Truly, Jake has smiles just for Austin.
Jake has smiles just for Austin.
Doesn't everyone have special smiles for their SO? I know I have smiles that are only for the Mrs.
I am so glad to see the NBA continuing its no tolerance of asshole behavior policy. All the sports leagues need to do this.
Doesn't everyone have special smiles for their SO? I know I have smiles that are only for the Mrs.
Oh, absolutely, wicked. I look back on photos of myself taken by one particular SO and I can see literally everything I felt - and still feel - for that person coming out in my smile. I almost don't recognise myself!
stubborn tb come on dude if you will just lighten the pics you can clearly see that Jake is not looking at the camera he is looking down...you can't even see his eyes and no sunglasses. Also in the other picture if you lighten it that is some face sucking and no looking at the camera.
Also if the pap's are so obvious then why is no one else looking at the camera? Do you think that all those people in the restaurant are part of this PR crap too? I do have to say that I find your vivid imagination quite entertaining...come on now though no need to make stuff up though when clearly the pictures do not show what you are saying they show....sad as that may be...
There is something when grin on talking on the phone, grin when you listen to their messages on the answer machine, and have been with them you can't understand why you cheeks ache. It's because you never stopped smiling the whole time, and neither did they.
http://trent.blogspot.com/
There is an account on this blog, just scroll down to the Jake & Reese section. It tells you who took the photos and how.
Jake stayed at a hotel when he was in NYC, he did not stay at his families west village apartment, he had a driver and his security guy with him. The sighting of him with the Austin Nichols type guy was made up by the same blogger person who made up the stuff about the baby and all that other stuff.
There was a sighting of Jake & Reese in the NYC hotel by somebody who saw them get off the same floor and head to the same room.
There trip was planned well in advance to Rome.
You all forget two big factors in this, she has kids and an ex. Do you honestly think he would be going along with this and she would be subjecting her children to this. Especially a person like her who seems to shelter her kids more than the average hollywood type. She doesn't prance them around on red carpets, she doesn't do photo shoots with them and she really does seem annoyed when they are photographed or upset by the paps.
That said, they are out as a couple and they have a right to live their life, should they hide and not eat a places and so on because they might be photographed.
Just as we have the right to eat at certain places in the heart of San Fran, why shouldn't they.
They simply decided to keep things on the down low while doing press for Rendition, this way they wouldn't have to answer questions about it, they also waited till she was legally divorced. But those two things are over now and they are just living their life doing things that couples do, eating out, going on vacation, getting breakfast, driving in cars, sightseeing.
Max at the top of this Thread, I totally agree with you 100%. That's the way I see it also.
On the Jake Gyllenhaal Subject, life and life experiences as gay or bi in our society can get to you. One has to stay strong.
I think most people probably give away how they feel about their SO in their smiles and body language, if you're observant. This discussion reminds me of how my family told me, in reference to the missus, "hey, we know what's going on here" without my having to come out to them. They could just tell from the way we were with each other even though I thought we were being "careful".
I still wonder if JFC will get a nod at this year's Golden Globes. You never know!
you ARE kidding, aren't you? Please. that show was way to out there. jmo! love Austin though.
Re anon 5:16.. It would seem that the trent blog has changed it story, must have been when he realised that the slanted door 'candid' had been sold to the Sun (that classy UK tabloid, nice one Jake) by Splash photo agency.
max said...
Like I said, 9.48, Jeese being real does not preclude the Jake and Austin r/ship. I think that was real too.
Max, I'm really lost for words why some can't comprehend this.
The sighting of him with the Austin Nichols type guy was made up by the same blogger person who made up the stuff about the baby and all that other stuff."
That publicist Jonathan Jaxson did NOT make up that sighting, you moron. I have no idea if that guy was Austin but Jake was sighted with a "skinny gent" along with his bodyguard and publicist in a restaurant in gawker early that week--a few days before he went to Rome and Reese arrived in NYC. I have no idea again if that was Austin or another guy, but clearly he had a male friend with him. What's the big deal to you if Jake is super straight and madly in love with Reese?
max said...
Like I said, 9.48, Jeese being real does not preclude the Jake and Austin r/ship. I think that was real too.
Max, I'm really lost for words why some can't comprehend this."
I guess because we're not as evolved or as super-sophisticated as you. BTW, here's a blog for you to go to and spend all your time at: www.gyllenspoon.com.
Bye, safe journey.
Reese the wonderwoman strikes again!!
She is photographed at the airport in LA leaving for NYC when she has actually already been in NY for two days hidden away in Jakes hotelroom!!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Note to all anons- you need to use names. It isn't that much of an imposition to ask you to at least come up with a fake name if you want to post here.
There is an account on this blog, just scroll down to the Jake & Reese section. It tells you who took the photos and how.
I work right by Slanted Door and my co-worker's friend emailed us a pic from her phone saying she knew it was Reese and Jake making out because she saw them when she walked in and called us right away.
No, Anon 5:16, that doesn't say the friend took the published pic, just that she took a pic. Big difference.
(I guess because we're not as evolved or as super-sophisticated as you. BTW, here's a blog for you to go to and spend all your time at: www.gyllenspoon.com.
Bye, safe journey.)
Were am I going? I will post were I want as long as I am respectful. This IS a MUST for me. I have lived a straight, bisexual, Now gay life with a man. Although everyone's experiences are different, I know how it is and how these types of situations play out... Something tells me that you are a straight female.. if so, Cool! And love the SUPPORT. But may I suggest not getting caught up in the Harlequin Romances. Most times life is not like that.
^Were = Where^
I've decided to go official. :)
BLTB -
Woo Hoo!
Well, go ahead with your bad self, BLTB!
Sorry, I've just got to...
ARGH!
If I have to read one more time how wonderful a mother Reese is and how she has kept her kids out of all of this and that she never puts them in the spotlight and wouldn't ever use them, and everything she does is for her kids and all the hiding and lying and subterfuge was because of the divorce I'M GOING TO SCREAM!!!
1) If Reese and Jake have been a couple since January, she was schtupping him while still married.
2) If she stayed with Ryan, even though their marriage was fork stuck, for Oscar purposes, then she has a pattern of lying to the press and her fans for gain. Include her children in that one, too, 'cause they saw mommy and daddy together for the cameras only.
3) Reeke took her children right into the thick of things by her visit to MV and by trick-or-treating with them outside of her gated community.
4) If Reeke is real, then she has introduced another man into the place of mommy's companion less than a year - months before the actual divorce - parading their relationship around to the world, complete with PDA and innuendos of a sexual relationship, word of which cannot help but filter back to her kids.
5) If Jake has been spending all his nights over there, then her children cannot help but be aware of his presence in mommy's life.
6) By doing any or all of this, Reese as committed just about every mistake when it comes to helping children deal with divorce ever written by the American Psychiatric Association and countless other professional groups.
All those that claim that Reese is a good mother obviously do NOT have children of their own, ever been through a divorce or coped with both as a single mother. I know whereof I speak on this matter. Your life becomes your children, and your needs, your desires, your life becomes secondary, sometimes even fourth or fifth.
Or it should, at least.
Of course, I guess having millions is a balm to a child whose family is forever broken, and mommy is off with her new boyfriend - a man who was known previously as daddy's friend. Or being an A-List actress exempts you from fault.
^^Don't forget, Reese hauling Jake up the church steps to Mass one of these days. :(
interesting post suspicious tb.
Ryan Phillippe After Reese Witherspoon Split: “I Was Ready to Kill Myself”
Tuesday November 13, 2007
Ryan Phillippe at the 2007 Vanity Fair Oscar Party Hosted by Graydon Carter in West Hollywood, CA. on February 25, 2007.
Jeffrey Mayer/WireImage.comRyan Phillippe has said he was suicidal after his 2006 split with wife of seven years Reese Witherspoon.
“After the divorce, I was a physical wreck. I wanted to die,” he told the Autumn-Winter 2007-2008 of U.K. magazine Man About Town. “I was ready to kill myself. I was not taking care of myself at all. I would wake up and cry and vomit.”
The actor, 33 – who shares custody of their children, Ava, 8, and Deacon, 4 — says the experience has ultimately made him a better actor: He can cry faster on cue.
“Now, it’s f---king easy," he says. "When I was younger, I didn’t have enough to cry about. But since I’ve had kids, I feel my work has become better, because my life is fuller and more complicated, and I’ve experienced so many highs and lows.”
Phillippe will return to big screen in the March drama Stop Loss — which again teams him with former flame Abbie Cornish, who he was seeing right before he split with Witherspoon — but don't expect him to star in any commercials anytime soon.
He dissed Catherine Zeta-Jones' decision to star in T-Mobile ads, saying, "When I see her in a movie it’s hard to disassociate the two.”
Ok, let's entertain the obvious troll with more argument and we are definitely goin gto read more on here about how wonderful Reese is as a mom and as a lover. Just saying...
Oh great, let 's just start pouring how wonderful is Ryan and how horrible is Reese. Jeez
Thanks, special and wicked! This is home now for me so it seemed like the right thing to do.
Stop that...
Ryan Phillippe cheated on Reese for years. The had a bad marriage and that is true, but he always wanted to be another place. He was sick because he let sleeping aroung get the best of him and he didn't think she would have the courage to dump him, but she did.
He never thought she would meet anyone either and she did. His sick feeling is a result of guilt and the fact that he never once factored his children into things or that they would have a step-dad.
Trust me, he is an ass in every sense
Don't trust anyone without the integrity to post with a name.
If Ryan cheated on his wife for years, why did Reese wait until AFTER the Oscar was sitting on her mantel for the break?
Anon 8:22- we are not here to bash Ryan, Reese, or anybody else. You are on the wrong blog if you want to do that and also if you want to post without a name. That's not what we do here.
Oh my, oh my!!!
Looks like Ted is warning Jake--don't piss off your old friends or else you're going to be outed.
Warning? Looks more like a threat to me. Ouch.
Ted is NOT threatening to out Jake himself.He already explained he wouldn't do so in the first paragraph. But it looks like Jake's old friends may be wanting to do that on their own.
He already outed Jake a few weeks ago before the PDA adventure in Rome and in wine country.
Ted's column begs the question why everyone is up in arms about Toothy now? What has happened in Toothy's life that would cause such geshreys and kvteching with disenchantment?
*wink*
Oh fuck… Is an imminent outing in the cards?
Great Austin pic and very, very interesting insights about tango Spesh. If you guys like it, you might want to check out Yo Yo Ma's album (thanks for the film suggestion Wicked!) featuring the music of Astor Piazzolla called "Yo Yo Ma Soul of the Tango". I wouldn't mind hearing some of it over here. ;) ;)
The dance reminds me of Tony Leung and Leslie Cheung danced in the kitchen in "Happy Together", in a rundown apartment in Argentina...
I haven't seen this movie Winterbird but I watched that scene at Youtube and I found it very sensual and strangely poignant. It looks like a movie that literally grabs you heart and soul.
FNL, thank you for bringing those good news. Now will we ever know which role Austin will play in The Informers?
Thanks for the NBA update Tom. Kuddos to them and to the Lakers. Will athletes finally understand that the times they are indeed changing???
And yeah! Bltb's got the blue too!
And my daily take on gossip:
Matt Damon Sexiest Man Alive?!??!??!??!? Who votes on these polls???
If Ryan cheated on his wife for years, why did Reese wait until AFTER the Oscar was sitting on her mantel for the break?
Word Suspicious! She looked the other way and kept appearances as long as his flings were discreet and the perfect family image was kept intact.
Anons- post with names. Just click "other" and make up a fake one. It's not hard.
Looks like Ted is not taking the heat off Toothy.
Does any of you remember how it went for Ellen and NPH? I've often read they came out because they felt pressured to do so by the gay community but I never paid attention to the details at that time.
Maybe people forgot - and maybe this info has been given in the previous thread but the FNL episodes are available for free on NBC's Web site.
Wicked, re: 8:30 unfortunately, you seem to allow lots of bashing of Jake though.
I hope this doesn't happen (Jake being outed), however much I despise the current public lovefest *puke* Whatever Jake is and whatever he's done, if he's gay or bi it should be his choice alone to come out. And if he's outed, then Austin would be too, how is that fair, especially if they've split up now.
nd if he's outed, then Austin would be too, how is that fair, especially if they've split up now." That's the ONLY reason whY I wouldn't be in favor of outing Jake--because it would lead to Austin being forcibly outed and I don't think he deserves that--whether he's Jake's ex bf, his on-again, off again bf or his still current bf--whatever his status.
Odd that Ted doesn't mention the BF in his latest hissey fit. You would think that he would be the first person mentioned, not a bunch of friends pissed of at cancelled dinner dates. i'm surprised you didn't catch that.
If his friends are pissed he knows it, he doesn't need to read ted's column.
Why would hus friends contact Ted? Like the friends that contacted him regarding Jake and Reese: BS.
The bottom line: Ted's is disembling here,all year it was baby tile, TT thinking about coming out to Time/Newsweek, still with the BF and than WHAM!! It makes Ted look like he was lying or making things up and he is pissed and the reason why he won't let it go is because he is trying to save face by implying his "friends" are going to rat on him because he didn't come out. Those are not friends nad Ted is full of it, he is the one that is pissed. If Jake had any concerns, he wouldn't be doing this.
Ted should be ashamed of himself, the missives sent to him are nothing but ramblings from certain members of his online fandom, a fandom Ted desperately needs. Pathetic.
Outing is certainly not the best solution but IMO Jake has played with fire. How could he expect not being burned in the long run? Did he think Reese's position would protect him? Is this why he's bearding with an A-lister and not with some d-list actress à la Clooney?
I think he's still with Austin. What will be the impact of this veiled(?) threat on their relationship?
And what will be Jeese's publicists reaction? They're already doing it over the top! What's next? A wedding?
I agree Broadwayfan. This would be unfair to Austin. He's barely and IMO still precariously in the saddle career-wise.
Frenchy, I'm afraid these friends are Ted's main Toothy sources, the ones who told him all those details about Toothy and his bf. (I had heard awhile back--and I wasn't sure how accurate this was--but that Ted's Toothy sources were Jake and Austin's friends who are based in NY). At this point, I don't care if Jake goes down--but I don't think it's fair to Austin who hasn't deserved this. Austin will most surely be outed if Jake is.
Is this why he's bearding with an A-lister and not with some d-list actress à la Clooney?"
True but also bear in mind that Clooney like Reese is an A + Lister and doesn't need another actress on his level to be his beard. Jake isn't on that level...yet.
(I had heard awhile back--and I wasn't sure how accurate this was--but that Ted's Toothy sources were Jake and Austin's friends who are based in NY).
Do you think the feeling we sometimes had that Jake was "playing along" with the TT game was not so far-off after all? He's no fool, he must have known where Ted got his info.
I have to agree that the friends complaining to Ted scenario seems a little over-the-top and not exactly realistic (but who knows). As was mentioned, Jake himself would already know how his friends feel and they would be communicating directly with him. I wonder if "friends" is coda for fans and/or the public at large? What I do like seeing being mentioned is how this stage has been cleared of all of Jake's friends and family to leave the two lone, romantic players: Jake and Reese. Ted encapsulates that with the disgruntled friends mention.
I don't want to see Jake forcibly outed. I want nothing more than for it to be on his own terms and on his own time, and for Austin to be ready as well. A forcible outing would be upsetting to see for Jake alone, but he's not alone in this. However, as Frenchy said, he's playing with fire. He's gone much, much further than I ever thought he would. I'm not sitting back and waiting for any sort of comuppance, but I wouldn't mind him receiving some sort of wake-up call. This situation absolutely needs shaking up because it's becoming more dire with every photo and video op. It's not working. I feel like he's already heading towards a crossroads. My biggest fear of all is that he'll suffer a breakdown.
Some of you really are cruel to Jake. Not even caring if he gets outed? If Austin is so innocent and wants to come out he could. He has made it seem like he doesn't like the rumors. He seems to be the one to get a free pass. I love Austin but I really don't know anything about him or Jake. You never know if Austin was the one to distance himself from Jake because of the rumors.
I wonder if "friends" is coda for fans and/or the public at large?
I don't think his unique fanbase nor the general public (who's still not really familiar with him) measure up to the power of 380Management & CAA's machines, not to mention the tabs' appetite for hetero romances. The showmance is raging on, notwithstanding the uproar from those who believe he's gay.
It's working IMOand he is upto his neck in it and has dragged Reese and her kids into it to boot. Why didn't Ted mention the BF Btw???
Do you think the feeling we sometimes had that Jake was "playing along" with the TT game was not so far-off after all? He's no fool, he must have known where Ted got his info."
Most definitely. I do think Toothy Tile I saga--2005 was mostly correct. But I think when the Toothy Tile saga resumed in the fall of 2006 with the bigwig and later baby tile, Jake and Austin were onto who were the sources for Ted's Toothy items and were feeding false info deliberately.
That was me.
Well Takes Two some of us clearly stated that we don't like the idea of a possible outing.
As for Austin, I personally don't think he's "innocent", whatever that means, just that he hasn't had the opportunity to establish himself in HW yet.
Oh no Broadwayfan, you're "me" too? :D
Me, it's time you get a Blogger ID!
Uh, if one believes that Jake and Austin are still together, then it would make sense that all of their decisions are mutual ones, and Austin was, and is, aware of the the inherent dangers of the Reeke game everyone is playing, including a possible forced outing.
If one falls on the no longer together side of the fence, how can Jake being outed now tarnish Austin? Cripes, they haven't been seen together for over 6 months! Could be all chalked up to rumors and gossip. That is unless Jake drags him along as he goes down.
(Gee, that last sentence sounded rather dirty, didn't it?)
Frenchy--no--I meant the post above me was ME!! (not our beloved "me" poster). If that makes sense.
Uh, if one believes that Jake and Austin are still together, then it would make sense that all of their decisions are mutual ones, and Austin was, and is, aware of the the inherent dangers of the Reeke game everyone is playing, including a possible forced outing.
Good point suspicious.
Lissen, (smoking a cigar), I'm going for the gold. I'm on my way to the big time. And if dis Reese broad is going to help, then there's no stoppin' me. Next stop: Oscar! See ya around, suckers.
Yeah BWF, I knew what you meant. :D
Sometimes I write my sentences so I can use "myself" instead of "me" to avoid confusion. ;)
"This situation absolutely needs shaking up because it's becoming more dire with every photo and video op. It's not working. I feel like he's already heading towards a crossroads. My biggest fear of all is that he'll suffer a breakdown."
Alright. Everyone needs to calm down. Time out. Remember: Jake is the victim here. The gay community has completely ignored the familial difficulties he experienced this summer, the emotional impact of Nichols screwup arrest/break-up, the anger he must have felt getting muscled out of Farragut West, and the fact that the gay comunitry did absolutely nothing to curb Ted's embellishments (domesticated boyfriend/ babytile).
Ted is totally right about Jake's gayness (through the verifiable parts of TT), but he's also a relentless shark, and he forgets how much abuse Jake has had to take for the gay community - for *Jake's" community. jake should have ten films lined up now. He doesn't because he's defended the gay community.
Jake has got to know that he has friends in the gay community, and he's need to know that through people he trusts, not vicious gay gossip-columnists.
The problem with Reeke is that Jake's PR people seem to think that Jake must prove he's straight by faking a showmance, alienating his gay fanbase and minimizing contact with his family and best friend (at least publicly). This is a combustible mix, and I must admit that I am a little nervous about a breakdown. I don't know what he's going to do, but we need some kind of gay emissary or intermediary, an honest broker. And the incendiary rhetoric has to stop.
I think that the huge furor is going to end when Brothers starts filming.
Smoking is very bad for your health Jake Sinatra.
Now pay attention to what Brooke Shield once said on the subject: "Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life."
Sweet dreams everybody. :)
If you believe there's nothing wrong with homosexuality then why are you getting all up in arms about outing? It's just simple reporting, after all. Actually, you could call it homophobic to treat it any differently than a straight relationship.
Here's Fridays Awful truth:
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/awful/index.jsp?uuid=042600bd-1240-408f-9795-0e9d7860a8a3&page=2
.......a lot of Tooth’s queer friends are mad as hell and preparing not to take it anymore
Heres the blind TT item from Thursday:
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/awful/blind/?uuid=c5132b3f-383e-444a-913b-00368276ef9a
Sorry, I don't know how to do the fancy links.
10:23, oh give me a break. No ONE put a gun to Jake's head. He did this WILLINGLY. He's not a victim here. (I suppose you would feel that way even if he murdered a few people, robbed a couple of banks and dated Rasputin).
And I'm SORRY but I thought the rumors of Toothy, the domesticated bf and Baby Tile was incredibly sweet. It's a shame it wasn't true and your implication that it was SO awful reeks of homophobia, my dear.
Also, your subtly snide attack on Austin makes me think your're a JIS troll in disguise. Austin was barely over the DUI limit. He just made a bad judgment call. He's hardly an out and out drunk or screwup--despite your protestation otherwise.
Jake should have ten films lined up now. He doesn't because he's defended the gay community."
Yes, the GAY community is SOOOO EVIL, isn't it?? SOOOO EVIL!!!!!
Maybe Jake doesn't have ten films lined up now because people are unsure he can CARRY a film considering only me and crickets showed up for both Zodiac and Rendition. And it has NOTHING to do with the gay rumors. They don't think he's a star...yet. Perhaps Jake needs to play characters that are not as exciting as ashtrays--certainly the characters he's playing next may help.
But you're on the wrong site to blame the evil gay community. I suggest you take your attack on the EVIL GAY JAKE-BAITING COMMUNITY to the pseudo-Christian conservative blogs where it belongs.
Back from the Christmas Fair set up (yes all the old ladies are now home probably still baking and sewing -- I am such a taskmaster)
: )
Wow. Ted is not letting this one go. And from the sounds of it neither are the friends.
Jake is suddenly all alone. Like I mentioned before you don't see family or friends and that is just not Jake.
Removing him away from his friends creates a create opportunity to mold his image in the direction his team thinks not what he thinks. No wonder the guy looks like he is elsewhere,sad and out of it his friends are not approved - how much does that suck. And that he decided to do this and now finds himself in the middle of basically PR quicksand.
I know I know he has the choice to do this - he can still stand up and say that's it and walk.(fingers crossed) He would be so much happier if they just let him live his life the way he wants to live it, and with whom he wants to spend it with.
oops sorry, I didn't know the articles were already posted by maria. Is it better to post just the link or the whole story?
And 'nuther thing. This Austin guy. Nice guy but where did ya broads ever get this cockamie idea that I wanted to make TIME with him? I'm single for the ladies!! (Putting cigar in mouth). I don't do guys. Neither does he. We're men, ya see. Men don't do guys. Those are queers. I'm all man. What do you think (looks at statuesque bimbos-they nod). Ya see. Let's go girls (putting arms around each of them).
You said it, Jake. Tell the girls. (smoking a cigarette in one hand and holding a shot of vodka in another). I love the ladies.
Jake
Get back here mister. No more practicing for you next play it straight date. What have I said about these cigars? - It's never just a cigar for you is it. ; )
Special K, I agree with you about where are Jake's frinds and family now? Seeing those pictures of him leaving the medical building on Tuesday I think, in the plaid shirt bothered me. He didn't look happy at all, like something was bothering him, upset. And maybe I'm wrong but in the first pic (I think on IHJ) it looks like he has a Kleenex tissue in his hand, but he keeps it tight in his palm in the other pics, like so no one can see it. At first I thot it was a piece of paper, and it shows him in another shot (on another site) with a car park ticket or something. But I'm pretty sure that the 1 shot on IHJ shows a tissue. Maybe he has a cold? But the 1st thing I thot of was that he was at a therapists office, and it was dark outside, like at 6 pm. Kinda late for a medical physical but I could be wrong. Did anyone else see the kleenex? His eyes looked sad, too. I feel bad for him. :(
btw the kleenex (I think it is) is in the same hand as the water bottle, and it looks like he hides it in his palm, holding the bottle tight next to it in the rest of the pics.
"10:23, oh give me a break. No ONE put a gun to Jake's head. He did this WILLINGLY. He's not a victim here"
Oh yes, and Montgomery Clift did what he did willingly too. The homophobia of Hollywood has absolutely nothing to do with his decision-making process, or break-down. Give *me* a break.
"And I'm SORRY but I thought the rumors of Toothy, the domesticated bf and Baby Tile was incredibly sweet."
Who cares if 'it was sweet'? Babytile was demonstrably and verifiably untrue. We're dealing with the facts of Jake's life, not your wishes. Just because Jake is in the closet does not mean that gossip columnists, gay or otherwise, can make up any story about them. And if they do, we *in the gay community* have the right to call them unprofessional sharks.
"Also, your subtly snide attack on Austin makes me think your're a JIS troll in disguise."
I'm not a JIS troll but I'M not a big fan of Austin either because I remember seeing pictures of Austin and Jake walking down the street, and Austin is clearly pulling away from Jake, trying to distance himself. I'm not going to deify Nichols. The point is that Jake was traumatized by their semi-break-up. Reeke is almost a delayed emotional over-reaction to Austin's screw-up this summer.
"Maybe Jake doesn't have ten films lined up now because people are unsure he can CARRY a film considering only me and crickets showed up for both Zodiac and Rendition. And it has NOTHING to do with the gay rumors. They don't think he's a star...yet"
And why don't *they* think he's a star? You think that it's just because of the performance of his films? Wearing a dress on SNL, playing an authentic gay cowboy and supporting the gay community for years has nothing to do with his box office appeal? Give me another break.
"But you're on the wrong site to blame the evil gay community.'
As a gay person, I have no problem blaming the gay community when they screw-up, especially when they eat their own. Remember : hollywood is just run by 'pseudo-Christian conservative' businessmen. We're running it to, and I'm sure that we are not entirely without blame in terms of reinforcing the macho image of gay male actors. There's plenty of blame to go around.
I heard from a source (and again, take this for what it's worth) that Jake has been in therapy for well over a year. I was told this in the late winter (before the Jeese crap started).
Sorry, forget the kleenex, I just looked at the pic again and its a reflection. My bad, my big imagination. But I still thinks he looks unhappy and upset.
I have reached a point where I think it may be for Jakes's own good to be outed. He's gone off the deep end which, cant be good for him. I think his friends and insiders want him outed now because they know he will have a breakdown if he continues on the current path. Honestly, I think Ted has only ever had good intentions for Jake. You can't help but love the guy and want the best for him.
On another topic, here is a another PR mistake that came to me today. Lots of criticsm of Jake since he is dating his friend's wife. He has known Ryan since they were kids and acted in a film directed by Jake's dad. What is the socially acceptable time period after which you can date your former friends wife? Anyway, now he is doing a movie where he gets involved with his brother's wife? Did PR ever think this through or what.
I do agree that there is a hint of desperation in this entire campaign and I'm not sure why.
The point is that Jake was traumatized by their semi-break-up."
What's a semi-breakup?? Is that the same as a quarter-breakup? Or a third breakup?
I think your post is sad and if you're a gay man, I feel bad for you.
It's no big deal to be in therapy. Almost everyone I know has been or is doing it. I've been doing it on and off for 16 years. Good for Jake.
Oh yes, and Montgomery Clift did what he did willingly too. The homophobia of Hollywood has absolutely nothing to do with his decision-making process, or break-down. Give *me* a break."
Monty had an awful, awful life and much of it was brought on (not only by the aftereffects of a severe car accident which marred his once perfect face) but by alcoholism and drug-taking spurred on by the pain of hiding who he was--a gay man in a homophobic, heterosexist Hollywood. He was in pain, emotional and physical constantly and he died too young (I'm a big Monty fan by the way).
Jake reminded me of Monty in BBM. I certainly don't want Jake to suffer the same fate as poor Monty but I don't think bearding with Reese is a solution at all. That will make it worse. I think HW needs to grow up and LOOK at the calendar. It's nearly 2008 and the public has become a lot more accepting and sophisticated than they were in say , 1957. Hollywood needs to step up to the plate, stop projecting OLD, dated attitudes onto the public who are far more accepting than they realize. I think the EW article from a few weeks ago was very revealing and insighting about how Hollywood is still entrenched in old attitudes about gays, whereas TV (ruled by younger people) is moving apace.
I agree Broadwayfan. This would be unfair to Austin. He's barely and IMO still precariously in the saddle career-wise.
What is THIS! OUT Jake, after he has been draged through the mud and called all kinds of names. No one had to follow his career or his life. No one. And, he does not owe anyone of us anything. I you or I don't like what he is doing, stop following his life, do something else. And to leave Austin out of it. Please, this unique fandom was set up because of J/A wasn't it? How is it that some still think that Austin is pure and that Jake should be outed but leave Austin alone! They WERE or ARE together, Right? As some have said. I am not for any outing. I don't care how mad the fans and friends get, but if Jake is outed then the one who he is involved with should be known also. Please stop the double standard. (If J/R are a fauxmance ok, but Austin called the rumors Junk and Shit and was with the Jennifer E. girl. Remember. Stop the double standare if you care for any of these beautiful guys. Yes, I am a TB.
standare = standard^^
I still want to know if Jake really did sleep with that hot model Justin.
Only thing I can say perhaps being outed would be for his own good. AND Austin's. I have some trouble understanding some of the opinions here. It is ok for Jake to go down but you are sorry it takes Nichols doem too because his career is not established? I thought he would not have to anything to worry being a TV actor and that it was ok for Jake and him to come out, what has suddenly changed now?
Also if it is not a good thing for Austin to come out, have you considered perhaps one part maybe small ok, but one part of Jake hideous current bearding is for Austin's sake as well? Given how uneffective Austin's attempts at distancing himself from the rumour and at quasi-bearding were? Just thought I'll point this out, because I don't think it is fair when it gets all unbalanced in one direction
I'll say it. How about a name. why the anons?
Piers, who was the source behind the bogus Baby Tile rumors? Matt Katz-Frost?
I finally wrestle the computer away from my gf to find this. Wow. I think what Ted says sounds real, it's something I've wondered about myself. I think that is one reason why all the pda occurs outside LA, because he doesn't want to be caught doing it in front of people who know him. And the visible lack of not only Austin but Chris and his family seems strange for someone who in the past has spent so much time with them. And yes, I know it's HW and this stuff goes on all the time, but this is someone who spent several years not living that way, and then boom, Jeese!
Although I'm usually against outing, I kind of agree with m's post about outing. Also, if he is really doing a 180 degree turn and cutting out his "gay" life, and is now saying things like he did in that British interview about how only straight actors could've played Jack and Ennis, is that really any different than a closeted politician who doesn't support gay rights?
I do wonder about Austin. I do believe he was Jake in New York, but how can all of this not affect him, even if he agreed to go along with it. And what must his friends and family think--they didn't grow up in HW, unlike Jake's family and friends.
How come no one ever managed to get even one cellphone picture of them being couply (not that anyone got a photo of them even together) prior to Ted outing Jake? How come no one ever got pictures like that of Ryan and Reese or Kirsten and Jake?
Since you haven't seen engaging in Jake PDA Kirsten...of course how could you, you would have to have been a true Jake fan for a while...I suggest you please go over to his fan site..leave the Jake hate here...where you'll find all the pics your Jaustin hearts can take.
There are plenty of Ryan Reese PDA pics when they were happier. Jeez!
Please enjoy, if you can, Kiki and Jake in happier times.
Jake and Kirsten PDA @ Poolside...7/2005
you really should pay attention to gossip bloggers who publish facts, they can do that once in a while...and not some washed up has been gossip blogger like Ted C. or that fake blogger JJE something or other.
Ya know what I just noticed, that the J/R Rome pics are like the SF ones. Jake is wearing a blue teeshirt, I think the same jeans. Reese is in black, the exact same black hoodie. I don't know about her top under it, but it's black in both sets of pics. And looks like she has the same shoes. This time its a smaller purse (even tho it's still big). She probably read the comments all over the net about her Huge Big Bag. Different necklace, tho. Funny how we haven't seen her wear the Jake sapphire charm lately.
Black and blue, they look like a bruise. And ya know how bruises get after a few weeks, with some yellow? Yep, in SF Jake is wearing his yellow and black shoes.
I just wanted to add I know you can't out Jake without outing Austin. But I tend to think it would not hurt his career because it seems to matter less and less in television, where he does a lot of his work, and he tends to do mostly independent films.
I couldn't believe it when JJ actually called Austin's father to find out if it was a true that his son and Jake had a baby through a surrogate!!!!!!!! Austin must have been so pissed. And I'm sure Jake found out about it.
Hey all you Anon-numb3rs, put a name to your bad self. All you have to do is click the circle next to "Other" and fill in a name - any name - in the little "Name" square. And you can skip over the "Your Web Page" square, nothing needs to be done with that. Got it? Thanks.
New Austin interview!!
"Friday Night Lights: Julie's Hot for Austin Nichols' Teacher!"
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/339964_tvgif16.html
Thank you pure! Wonderful interview and his character will come back in future episodes :)
^from the interview about 'The informers':
"I'm actually sitting in the sun right now because I'm on my way to Uruguay this weekend to finish shooting, and I have to be really tan. My hair is belched blonde, I look like Billy Idol. I'm so 1983-fabulous, it's ridiculous."
"I play the best friend of John Foster and I'm having an affair with his mother, who is Kim Basinger.She's sort of a pill-popping depressive wife, and Billy Bob is her studio executive husband."
Oh and his bleached blond 80s hair sounds scary...
about the interview, here's the tvguide.com link:
http://www.tvguide.com/news/friday-night-lights/071116-01
Thanks pure... wow, Austin looking like billy idol, with spiky bleached blond hair, that would be fun. I'd love to see austin rock the punk look.
I don't know if can handle Austin all Billy Idolesque I must admit. I might be too much. Since Billy was the guy I had plastered all over my wall in all his leather and crucifix glory (oh that went over well with Dad). Yes Billy is my FG Achilles heel and finds me squealing Billy Billy even now when I see him in person. And yes I admit it I still go see him when ever he comes to town.
New Post!!
I LOVED Billy Idol and I adored that look (I'm an 80s gal).
NEW POST!
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