Sunday, July 26, 2009

Out Spotlight XC

Today's Out Spotlight is writer Katherine V. Forrest

Born in Windsor, Ontario on April 20, 1939. She lost her parents at age 16. She was educated at Wayne State University in Detroit, and UCLA. She became an American citizen in 1976.

Forrest has played a major role in bringing lesbian fiction to the forefront of the mystery and science fiction genres. Citing women writers such as Agatha Christie, Ngaio Marsh, and Josephine Tey as her inspiration, she began her writing career at age 40. She has since written numerous mystery and science-fiction books, and edited several anthologies.

Forrest knew that she attracted to women, recalling at 5 she was falling in love with female friends, but it wasn't until she was 40 that she was truly accepting of herself and who she was. Coincidentally it was the same time that she began writing. Spending many years growing up in repressing her sexuality, and self denial she burned through relationships. But even coming out, and entering relationships with women, she stilled struggled, "I remained essentially in the grip of all the early shame and my own powerful homophobia. Until I was forty years old."

Forrest published her first novel, a romance entitled Curious Wine, in 1983. Known for its breakthrough candor in its depiction of lesbian eroticism, it is her most commercially successful book to date. It has sold over 300,000 copies, and has become established as a classic of lesbian fiction and is the most popular lesbian romance novel of all time.

Speaking about Curious Wine, Forrest is quoted this way "To explain where the book came from, a requirement is sort of just understanding the time, because it was 1983 when it was published, and at that point I had read all of the lesbian literature I could find. There was just no book out there that conveyed, for me, the passion and the beauty of our love and how absolutely beautiful women are together. So I wrote the book I wanted to read, and evidently a lot of other women wanted to read it too (laughs). In the writing of the book I found that I just more fully embraced my own identity and celebrated it, and so that’s why it remains to this day an incredibly beautiful experience for me, and a book that means a lot to me…."

Just over a decade later, an audio recording of Curious Wine was released, which is reputed to be the very first audiobook based on a lesbian novel.

With her next book Amateur City in 1984, she launched her popular police procedurals featuring lesbian homicide detective Kate Delafield. The eight books in the series have been well received by reviewers and readers alike. They provide entertaining reading as well as a realistic, intelligent portrayal of lesbian life. Delafield, a former Marine and Vietnam vet, is a confident, capable member of the Los Angeles Police Department, who finds herself forced to deal with a homophobic atmosphere.

One of her Delafield mysteries, Murder at the Nightwood Bar has been optioned for a film several times, but no film is currently in progress.

Her science fiction book Daughters of a Coral Dawn published in 1984, became lesbian cult classic. In 2002, Alyson Books her long-awaited science fiction novel Daughters of an Amber Moon, the sequel to Coral Dawn. She continued the series with Daughters of an Emerald Dusk.

Her other novels An Emergence of Green and Flashpoint have become classics as well.
Forrest has also worked as an editor, collaborator, and has also written short stories as well. Her non-fiction work includes Lesbian Pulp Fiction: The Sexually Intrepid World of Lesbian Paperback Novels 1950-1965

She has won of the Lambda Literary Award for Best Mystery twice first for The Beverly Malibu and the other for Murder by Tradition. She is also the recipient of the 1998 Pioneer Award of the Lambda Literary Foundation.

Her latest release is a Delafield mystery, entitled Liberty Square, which finds the favorite detective this time in Washington, DC.

Longtime resident of California, she currently lives in San Francisco with her partner, Jo Hercus. In addition to writing she teaches writing in the Bay area.

On July 15, 2008, she and Jo were married in San Francisco in the private chambers of California Supreme Court Justice Carlos Moreno, one of the four justices who voted in favor of the historic decision that legalized same-sex marriage in California.

Jo and Katherine,with Ann Bannon and Gail Lang

89 comments:

Florida Tom said...
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Florida Tom said...

Great Spotlight Spesh. It is always interesting to read about people who arent able to accept who they are till the latter years in their life. I suspect that has changed some but would be curious to know how many young people still face the same fears today. I suspect many. Thats why I am so adamant about peole like Jake coming out. Its so important. Much more important than money and fame.

Blech said...

Looks like Jake is in Philly with Reese, A&D. Right on schedule!

Wicked said...

I've never read any of Katherine Forrest's books. I'm not a real big fan of mysteries. I am kind of curious about the one set in DC, though.

Reading through yesterday's comments reminded me that there is one way to KNOW with 100% certainty that someone is a troll- anyone who tells someone what to do, that they need to move on, stop posting, etc, that IS a troll. We sure had a lot of that yesterday.

Special K said...

I guess that one Philly pap will have work now. Philly.com LOL

Interesting how Reese has stayed out of the paps since she has been in Philly. So it doesn't look like she's the one that is calling for the attention. Maybe they realized that she was about as subtle as an anvil, and are now trying to make it look like Jake's the calling the paps. (You think people are going to believe that one, ahhh no)

While some say its right on schedule for Reeke, I prefer to say it's right on time for Jake to be closer to NC and Austin. (2 weeks since Austin was off from filming and Sophia was in LA, hmmm) All work and no Austin make not a happy Jakey.

Florida Tom said...

Suggestion for the witherspoons while visting Philly.

Family
Art Museum
Independence Hall
Liberty Bell
Constitution Cenetr
Betsy Ross House
Citizen Bank Park

reeke
South Street(great place for stoners)
Head House Square
Olde City



Jake
Woodies
Uncles
12 th Air Command
Sansom Theatre

ihj said...

Jake's PR did alert the media, the same way he did when he was with Kiki.

You don't think it was Kiki calling the paps for the million and one photos rotting on ihj.

Standard Reeke Copy said...

Why do gossip sites/tabloids always call Reeke "the two lovebirds" in descriptions?!! Lovebirds??!!! Reeke is more like two chickenshits. Or a couple of peacocks who are all show and no go, or a pair of PR ostriches sticking their bearding heads in the sand. Lovebirds, my ass. A few more years of bearding and Reeke will be two old spent hens, good for nothing but the Hollywood slaughterhouse.

the nanny said...

LOL!! She sure has her men trained. Sounds like Ryan was watching the kids until Jake showed up. Ryan has been in delaware/Philly all week, took the kids to a Philly game and had some face time with the philly announcers. They asked if he was filming with Nicholson who was a game previously and he said no, his ex-wife was. He was also spotted at a carnival in Delaware later on. He has a place in Delaware. Supposedly he was supposed to stay in Delaware most of the summer to be near the kids because of Reese's filming schedule but i think it's just for July. Reese rented a mansion on the Main line for the summer and Jake, Reese and the kids will be staying there, maye there is room for Ryan, LOL!!

?? said...

I thought Ryan was supposed to have the kids for the Summer? If he is in Delaware and has a place there maybe they s=decided to sahre the Summer.

Special K said...

Think Jake is more beach bound, than Main line. But wonder if there is a room under another name that he's staying at, at the Rittenhouse.

Florida Tom said...

A mansion on the Main Line. I find it hard to believe that anyone who lives in a mansion on the Main Line would be the type of people who would rent their house out. The Main Line is old money and I just find it hard to believe. Main liners are normally the type who would look down their nose at people from HW.


Most HW types normally rent on Rittenhouse Square. I am not sure of which Sabrina the fake couple ate but most likely the one in The Italian Market in South Philly. Which is very accesible to Rittenhouse Square.

odd said...

How odd. The Brazilian filmmaker in LA who twittered about going with/taking Jake to the airport on Sat 7/25 because he was travelling to see Reese (and it must have been true, because Jake is in Philly now) deleted his entry. So far he's kept the one about Reese. But what was so revealing or personal about the Jake one??

danielaragao: This post is to make my friends jealous the: tomorrow I'll Bring the Jake Gyllenhaal at the airport. Has become the home of his assistant...

^^ deleted entry




danielaragao: Then she asked who was in the car I rented it and driving the paparazzi do not follow him. He will travel to see the girlfriend, Reese.

^^ not deleted (yet!)

m said...

Well, Jake has an excuse now to be back east making it easier to hook up with Austin, so the cover story does provide some benefits.

Good out spotlight today. I have never read any lesbian fiction myself. Too fond of the male anatomy.

There are so many u-tube videos up with comic con stuff, I feel like I was there myself. Glad to see the reception John Barrowman got and I loved the kiss D Tenant gave him. I never watched Dr Who but just set it up to record so I'll give it a go.

?? said...

Reese staying in Main Line, If she was staying anywhere near Rittenhouse there would have been more sightings. The Sabrina's was the one in the Italian market. Reeke wouldn't be caught dead actually staying anywhere near Rittenhouse.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/entertainment/Reese-calls-the-Main-Line--Home.html

nanny said...

This is the acurate translation:

She asked me to go in the car that I rented and driving to the paparazzi don't follow him. He will travel to see the girlfriend, Reese.

I assume he deleted it because assistants shouldn't be twittering about clients travel plans even though Jake's assistant hired him. This guy does this for a living when he is in L.A. I gues he didn't delete the Reese one because if you didn't see the previous one, you would have no idea what he was twittering about.

It was the same when someone was twittering about them visiting the WH and then it was deleted, probably about an assistant.

lol said...

Since when paparazzi follow Jake?

Accessories said...

"there would have been more sightings"

Reese isn't going to waste sightings and paps on her walking around alone or god forbid, with a secret gf. She waited to leave the hotel until she got the 2 kids and her fake bf.

odd said...

"Jake's assistant hired him. This guy does this for a living when he is in L.A."

Is this your guess or is it fact? If you say fact, how do you know this?

Florida Tom said...
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Florida Tom said...

All the stars stay at Rittenhouse Square while working in Philly. Oprah stays at Rittenhouse Square when in Philly. Maybe Rittenhouse Square doesnt want a washed up has been hillbilly like reese and a C lister like Jake staying there

PR Whores at Ho Foods said...

Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal at Whole Foods

Sunday afternoon shoppers at the Whole Foods in Wynnewood got an eyeful of Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal, who spent an hour of her day off by filling up a cart with provisions. She handled the checkout line -- breezing past the magazine racks -- and no one bugged them.

Witherspoon is renting a house about 10 minutes away, and she's staying here through at least October while shooting the untitled James L. Brooks film with Paul Rudd, Owen Wilson and Jack Nicholson.

Witherspoon is in incredible shape, as she plays a softball player in the romantic comedy.



Philadelphia Inquirer

Meg said...

5:12.. I was just about to link to that. It looks like the Philadelphia Inquirer is going to be giving us an hour by hour up date of the 'lovebirds' next few days (lucky us eh!).

Don't know about anyone else, but if Jakey G came to visit me after a two week absence I could think of better things to do than brunching and grocery shopping.

Only Reeke can make being an a-lister seem unaspirational.

Cheeep Lovebird said...

She handled the checkout line

In other words, Jake 'You got this babe?' studied the gum rack, glanced at the pocket-sized astrology books and looked up at the ceiling while Reese paid. LOL!

Meg said...

Can I also add, anyone to take bets on how long it takes Philadelpia's lone pap to locate the 'adorable couple'. I'm predicting the usual 65+ pics of the 'oh so private pair' on JustJared fairly soon. At least it will keep trolly occupied for a few hours.

m said...

Actually, I predict a hurricane of twitters. Why? Because weeks ago someone bombarded WFT2 and OMG with comments trying to establish how credible Twitter is when there was really no good reason for it. A form of methinks they protest a bit too much that raised eyebrows at the time. But now there is good reason. No paps, so PR plans on using twitters to communicate and keep the romance alive. Let me guess too, the house has a long driveway and entrance through the garage so a visitor (Austin or Babytile) can be brought in using a car with tinted windows and not be seen exiting the car.

Sunday lovin said...

if Jakey G came to visit me after a two week absence I could think of better things to do than brunching and grocery shopping.

Me too! I'd be sucking and fucking his brains out. We'd both be so exhausted and weak with hunger and thirst we would have to send someone else to the store, you know, like an assistant. But maybe with Reeke, they're into using fruits and vegetables as sex toys so they had to go grocery shopping first, and of course do the shopping themselves so they could pick out the best produce. Or maybe Reese, being a devout churchgoer and all, abstains from having sex on Sundays? No wait, I know I know! Its because Jake is gay and he doesn't have sex with girls.

Special K said...

A little left of topic:

You know what I find ironically funny, is that this morning I got a call from a friend from college who I haven't seen in years and who's up in Boston for the day, and wants to meet before he takes the train back tonight. Where does he live? Center City Philly. Life just keeps amusing me.

sigh said...

Let me guess too, the house has a long driveway and entrance through the garage so a visitor (Austin or Babytile) can be brought in using a car with tinted windows and not be seen exiting the car.

I really hope you're not insinuating that Austin and/or BT will visit Reeke at their rented house. If so, all of them are truly pathetic.

?? said...

Accessories: There wee plenty of solo Resse twitters of Reese in DC before Jake arrived, he was in Europe at first remember? There were also tweets of Reese and the kids in philly last weekend, sans Jake who was in L.A.

I do remember reading that she was staying at a hotel until a place was ready, i took that as a house not a hotel especially if she will be there filming all summer and looks like the kids are there as well.

Wynnewood is near the Main line.

destiny said...

;ake showing up in Philly for the semi-monthly reeking, but no appearance for PoP at Comic Con, says it all.

I'm not logic said...

m said...

Actually, I predict a hurricane of twitters. Why? Because weeks ago someone bombarded WFT2 and OMG with comments trying to establish how credible Twitter is when there was really no good reason for it. A form of methinks they protest a bit too much that raised eyebrows at the time.


No M, what actually happened was a few named posters and a hurricane of sockpuppets tried to discredit various twitter sightings by calling them PR plants and insulting the posters who did believe the twitters. When Wicked said that she believed the twitter sightings to be true and other posters (including me) pointed out how ridiculous the conspiracy theories were and asked you and others to provide some evidence to back up your accusations that these twitters were PR generated, you and the sockpuppets flung out some more insults.

So M, may I ask why you have so mis-characterized the debate that was had? I'll provide links and quotes to the discussions in question. May I look forward to an honest answer to this question and to the one asked in the previous twitter discussion, or (more likely) the spectacle of you avoiding the point and a few more insults hurled my way by sockpuppets?

shit! said...

Twitter troll is back.

Special K said...

Wonder if they thought it wouldn't get enough attention at Comic Con with everything else. I think Disney is going to use D23 to showcase PoP at its fullest.

Is it a smart move? Who's to say. Just have to wait and see what happens in Sept, I guess.

Like someone said they have a lot invested in this movie, and the potential for franchising as well. I don't think they are doing what they are doing without some kind of thought through plan. Will it pay off? That's the wait and see in May.

fake vs real said...

"PR plans on using twitters to communicate and keep the romance alive."

Perhaps. M, tell you what. Why don't you do an ongoing Twitter search for all Philly Reeke sightings and keep track of all the Philly twitters and their owners and what they say in their entries? You'd also have to check their past entries for their posting histories and cross match followers and followings to see if any are in duplicate networks, and make sure that all the sightings fall in place regarding location and time. Then after about a month or so you can tell us which ones you suspect of being PR plants. I would be very interested in the results. I would do it myself but since I am a twitter proponent (no I am NOT P.R. lol) I would be viewed as being biased and I would get accused of all sorts of things. It would be great if someone like yourself could do an experiment on it and have real results to discuss, not just assumptions.

Meg said...

6:08.. please, keep the importance of a few aimless twitterings in perspective. There are far more important (if less amusing) things going on in the world to be agitated by.

fyi said...

On the internet the term "sock puppet" (which is two words by the way) refers to fake personalities who all agree with each other. You should be very familiar with that concept although you're not even trying to disguise yourself anymore. If M and other different posters on one board agree they do not qualify as sock puppets. Back on topic I think some tweets are fake as hell to generate followers or views and others are real. Some are PR generated.

fake vs real said...

Meg, then what are you doing here? Since you won't answer "I'm not logic"'s very logical and rational questions, or better yet leave them alone so that M can, you better go out and save the world. This ain't a sorority, no one needs you to denigrate a poster who is clearly not addressing you and whose post you are avoiding answering.

fake vs real = I'm not logic = twitter troll said...

Please stop trolling, we are not amused.

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I'm not logic said...

Meg said...

6:08.. please, keep the importance of a few aimless twitterings in perspective. There are far more important (if less amusing) things going on in the world to be agitated by.


I was asking M why she totally mis-characterized the debate and asked her to answer a simple question rather than revert to insults. I wasn't agitated, merely wondering at her reasons for painting the argument in the incredibly biased manner that she did. And, unsurprisingly, the first response I got was an insult from a sockpuppet who doesn't seem to understand the definition of a troll...unless they were just announcing their own arrival of course.


fyi said...

On the internet the term "sock puppet" (which is two words by the way) refers to fake personalities who all agree with each other. You should be very familiar with that concept although you're not even trying to disguise yourself anymore. If M and other different posters on one board agree they do not qualify as sock puppets.


Ah, a second person who pops up with an insult instead of an answer. FYI, both your definition of sockpuppet and your attempt to correct my spelling of it are wrong.

Sockpuppet (Internet)

However, if it helps to prevent distractions I'll stop using the term sockpuppets and instead refer to them as "posters who fling out insults and avoid the question".

fake vs real said...

Meg, then what are you doing here?


This is an open blog and anyone is allowed to reply to any post they see fit.

fake vs real = I'm not logic = twitter troll said...

Please stop trolling, we are not amused.


I'm only posting under the name "I'm not logic" , and now I have three insults from the "posters who fling out insults and avoid the question".

big picture said...

"Back on topic I think some tweets are fake as hell to generate followers or views and others are real. Some are PR generated."

"Why don't you take your twitter bullshit somewhere else?'

WOW. Such animosity. No, hatred. ABSOLUTE HATRED. If anything is PR-generated IMO it's the posters who are saying "tweets are fake as hell" and "take your twitter bullshit somewhere else." Why? Because maybe PR wants to instill that all Twitters are to be highly doubted. So that when Austin/Jake/BT twitters happen, and eventually there will be some, they too will be doubted dismissed. How could a Jaustin twitter be believed, when the Reeke twitters weren't believed by you guys? And if you do automatically believe a Jaustin twitter after doubting all the Reeke ones, you'll be laughed at and labeled idiots. Also IMO these "tweets are fake as hell" and "take your twitter bullshit somewhere else" posters are part of PR's ploy to create divisiveness between posters on the JIG sites. Think about it, people. There isn't this much, (if any) anger, doubt and hatred about twitter and directed to the twitter discussions and twitter posters on the JIS sites. Only here.

fake vs real said...

btw I am "big picture" and I am "fake vs real". I am NOT "I'm not logic". "I'm not logic" and I just have the same POV and are posting at the same time. Deal with it.

fake vs real = I'm not logic = big picture = twitter troll said...

Twitter troll,

Why do you care which twitters we believe or don't believe?

Believe what you want and let others decide on their own.

prairiegirl said...

m, you just keep right on talking, girl. Whoever the heck keeps jumping on every little thing you utter is proving themself to be a personal troll. And I do mean, a Personal Troll. I have never used that word before, this is my first time. But this is utterly ridiculous. Whoever it is, knock it off!! Better yet, why in the heck don't you use a real name instead of a different one every single doggone time? I swear to pete, that is the most irritating thing. To pick on somebody relentlessly but to do it hiding behind a made up every time. Have the guts and the self confidence to use the same name every time if you want to get into a boxing ring with somebody. That's the most honorable thing that could be done.

Criminetley's, this is ridiculous. OMG has been taken over by ugly. Ugly with a capital U.

To me, it is very, very indicative of what Jake's career has become. If I were his people, I would be ashamed and I would be worried. Not just because of this.

What Destiny said is very profound.

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I'm not logic said...

fake vs real = I'm not logic = big picture = twitter troll said...

Twitter troll,

Why do you care which twitters we believe or don't believe?


Insult number 4. And what I cared about was M's biased painting of the argument had about the twitters, and the reason I cared about it was because I was part of that debate. All of this I plainly stated in my first post in this thread. Now how about you stop insulting me, since I have responded politely to every comment directed at me so far?

prairiegirl said...

m, you just keep right on talking, girl. Whoever the heck keeps jumping on every little thing you utter is proving themself to be a personal troll. And I do mean, a Personal Troll. I have never used that word before, this is my first time. But this is utterly ridiculous. Whoever it is, knock it off!! Better yet, why in the heck don't you use a real name instead of a different one every single doggone time?


I beg your pardon??? I haven't jumped on M. So far all I have done is ask M why she presented such an incredibly slanted version of the twitter debate that I was part of. I have not asked her to stop talking; quite the opposite, I would like her to actually explain why she did that. And for that I have been repeatedly insulted. Me, not M. And each insult has come at me from a different name.

dictionary says said...

Sockpocket is that anything like teabaggig?

dictionary said...

^teabagging

Bet jake knows what that means.

prairiegirl said...

Yessss! I have internet right now!!! Woohooooo! It's a weak signal but it's a signal nonetheless.

To address what I was referring to in my last comment, I have excellent cable here where I'm at. And there's a channel called G4 that has been livestreaming from ComicCon all weekend, 24/7. lol. You should see this thing. It reminds me of the Chicago Cubs Conventions that I used to attend years ago. I think it's cool because all of these people are into the same thing, which appears to be games and everything that has to do with games. Although, I gotta say, like any similar convention (Cubs included), there are always those who get a little too wrapped up in their idol, and that is to dress up in total character. Some of these people look a little funny. But hey, they're having fun and not harming anything, so who cares.

Anyway, in the times that I've had this on, I've seen some directors and producers of movies on here, like Ironman 2 and I can't remember the name of this other one, Zack Snyder or something like that. These are the Big Wigs on here. They are so young, too, lol. Gee whiz. And they are at this conven to get a feel for their product. That one director was blogging online with fans in a chatroom to get initial feedback. They have a constant scroll at the bottom of the screen feeding blogging comments and they're doing nothing but talking about all the movies coming out, not only this summer but clear up into 2011.

So, like m & Destiny say, why on earth is PoP not there??? I think this is huge. This convention seems to be looking at all exciting game movies, merchandise, videogames, etc. coming out in the future. And it's non-stop. They're all competing against each other. What on earth would Disney be afraid of by not putting their product out there? This convention was an ideal, prime platform to do it. There are hordes of fans at this thing. And PoP is coming out next summer? If the next ComicCon isn't until next summer at this time, that's going to be too late. What kind of a professional blunder is this?

And this business of Jake wandering around, following Reese and doing nothing now for the past 7 -8 months now speaks loudly to me. Because all I have to do is look at my company. A company (be it a business or an individual,say an actor) which wants to be profitable, be prominent, and be current, does not sit back and take a year off. If my company sat back and took a year off from coming out with something new, we'd be out there on our rumps with all the other also-ran labels. You have to keep out there, visible in the public's eye. It's all about staying up to date and staying visible. We do not wait a year before coming out with something new. Good gosh, we'd be looking at 0 profits and our competition would be running off with the market.

I may not be highly educated and I may not be HW savvy, but even I'm not that stupid. It seems to me that Jake's career is just about solely riding on Reese's skirt tails right now. That's it. And I'm not saying that to bash him.

I'm just saying that because it is plain as day to me. Somebody with some business savvy tell me different. I'll stop there but this is just a realization and observation that I'm making.

fake vs real said...

You know what. I'm not going to get worked up about twitter. Sometimes you guys are great but when it comes to twitters some of you get your backs up and hiss and spit and HATE for no reason. I've always been more than happy to post twitter sightings and give information, but now I'm finished with it here. I know some of you will be relieved, overjoyed, whatever. But you know what, it also means I won't be posting any twitter sightings or any info from a twitter or any pic from a twitter on here whatsoever. I don't care if it's 10 sightings and pics of Jake and Austin kissing while walking hand in hand with Baby Tile between them down the street, you won't be getting the information from me. So really, all the hatred? In the end you're only cutting your own throat. It's your loss, not mine.

stupid trolls said...

^^^ Twitter troll, get lost.

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prairiegirl said...

And yes, someone out there comes out and personally crits & attacks m everytime she says something here not only recently but in the past. I don't know who it is, but it's plain as day to me and I am just pointing it out. And I don't like it. Not that anyone cares. But I'm not going to stand by and let one of my friends be constantly picked on.

Hey, I missed alot because I took my Sunday snooze, but I've been watching Torchwood this afternoon. Who watches this show?!!! Tell me that Lanto doesn't die! How can they do this?!!!! Who knows the scoop?!

Hey, and has anyone seen Love Actually? The girl who plays Hugh Grant's secretary that he falls in love with, is she on this show? Is she the one who plays Lanto's sister, I think? That sure looks like her.

Man, John Barrowman is to die for. How old is he? He looks fantastic. And Lanto is so cute. I've seen this show before but not for awhile. I think Jack and Lanto are HOT, HOT, HOT!!! They cannot kill Lanto!!!!

Can somebody fill me in? London, can you tell me anything tomrrow? I reckon you're asleep now, but can you fill me in on any news?

I'm desparate, lol.

Okay, I've got to get off of here. I need to get a life, lol. I've got a cute little dog to walk, a cat to feed, dinner to eat, a story to work on, other stuff now that I have internet!! woohoo, I'm so excited!

fyi said...

I just knew that was a wikipedia link but I clicked and was LOL IRL.

prairiegirl said...

Special? Wicked? It's getting vulgar around here!

Let's clean it up, guys. There's no need for nastiness.

We need to reclaim this blog because it's getting out of hand and I don't like what I'm seeing. I know of one regular that we have lost now due to all of this and I'm very saddened by this news. I don't want to lose anyone else.

I don't know what the solution is, but I would say it's Red Alert right now. There's not even anything signifcant going on other than Jake's been sighted in Philly. Good gosh, here we go, too. Isn't that just lovely news. And might I add why would they be going to Whole Foods when they constantly eat out??? Even their coffees and cappuccinos aren't home brewed. What on earth are they getting at Whole Foods? Yeah, right.

Anyway, this nastiness & ugly is enough to drive me away. But you know what? Maybe that's what someone or PR wants. They want OMG to die. And you know what? As long as Special & Wicked keep it up, I'm not going. I love my regulars here and not only that, but if someone (s) want OMG to disappear that badly to troll this site, then I'm digging my heels in for the long haul.

Okay, now I'm gone. lol

fake vs real said...

Special and Wicked, if you stand by the posters that call anyone who posts about twitters "trolls" and when you don't delete their posts full of hate and meanness, and when you yourselves do not take a position and defend the posters who make well-thought-out, meaningful posts, then you deserve to have a dwindling poster-base and a hate-filled blog. I might read here again but until you make changes and delete the haters and the jesters, I'm out of here.

well? said...

^^^ Troll, you promised to stay away.

I'm not logic said...

prairiegirl said...

And yes, someone out there comes out and personally crits & attacks m everytime she says something here not only recently but in the past. I don't know who it is, but it's plain as day to me and I am just pointing it out. And I don't like it. Not that anyone cares. But I'm not going to stand by and let one of my friends be constantly picked on [...] Anyway, this nastiness & ugly is enough to drive me away. But you know what? Maybe that's what someone or PR wants. They want OMG to die. And you know what? As long as Special & Wicked keep it up, I'm not going. I love my regulars here and not only that, but if someone (s) want OMG to disappear that badly to troll this site, then I'm digging my heels in for the long haul.



I'm the one who is being trolled and insulted on this thread, Prairiegirl, not M. M isn't being picked on, she's been asked a question, a question which has resulted in me being insulted again and again and again. So may I ask why you're defending someone who isn't being attacked whilst ignoring someone who is being attacked? I have been nothing but polite so far, and this politeness has been met with a barrage of nasty comments from trolls. So yes, please dig in your heels, but how about you take a stand against all the trolls? Thanks.

stupid trolls said...

"I'm not logic",

please stop playing stupid.

syl said...

Never thought I'd say this but WFT2 is a civilized tea party compared to OMG. What's that Sitemeter for anyway? Special and wicked, you need to delete the one-line haters who pick on people. You really do. No censorship has let the fleas turn this place into the shits lately and no one wants to post anymore. I would compliment you on your Spotlight today and join in the discussion, but why bother when I'll get called a troll and be told to leave.

m said...

PG, I agree with you that anyone who was anyone was at Comic Con. POP not being there is significant. In my business we have one big trade show and we go every year. If we did not show up, our competitors and customers would think we were getting out of the business. Maybe some gossip about why will leak out in the next few weeks.

I watched Torchwood 2 seasons, but then stopped. Not sure why, I think I was just short on time to watch everything and something had to go. Barrowman is great and I love that he is bisexual in the show, though I think he clearly prefers men in the show, not just in real life.

prairiegirl said...

I do believe Lanto has died on that show. I am devestated and I'm not even a regular watcher. How can this be? There was some very, very good acting in this series they showed this afternoon.

I know I said earlier that I was gone for 8 days but like I said, I found an internet connection to use. So that's why I'm around.

I do not believe just because someone puts a twitter sighting on here that makes them a troll. In fact, I think I only saw one person criticizing twitter. I know I didn't even bring twitter criticism up. Twitter is not the end all or the beginning of all things for me. No one's even been talking about the attitude toward twitter on here all week.

Like Special said, I don't believe that just because someone disagrees with the majority opinion on here that that makes them a troll. I think there are fans of Jake who believe Reeke is real. There are those fans who think Jaustin was real at one time and Reeke is real now. There are those who think Jaustin still exists and Reeke is fake. I mean, there are all several kinds of beliefs out there and none of those beliefs makes anyone a troll.

I think the trolls are the ones who personally attack. And you don't have to necessarily be totally ugly or vulgar to personally attack. Someone who constantly criticizes what one particular individual says, disputes it, and makes fun of what they believe, that's just as bad as if you cussed someone out, like someone did up above, using the F-bomb most immaturely.

I don't know what's going on here, but it's not classy. It's not admirable. It's not honest and it's downright embarrassing. I'm not proud right now to be a part of it.

Like I said, I don't know what the solution is. Maybe there's not one.

m, I must say, I'm not a fan of video games although my niece & nephew have introduced me to the wonders of Wii and I have to say Wii is alot of fun. I can understand how people get really into these games. I think it's great that they have this Comic Convention. It's a way for people to meet others and make new friends; that's always great.

And that G4 cable channel had a stage there that overlooked the convention, like I said, 24/7. They had guests up on stage left and right. They showed previews of movies and games constantly. It was very impressive. And why Disney wasn't there and Jake wasn't there, or at least the director or producer of PoP, is impossibly hard to understand.

Okay, everyone have a good evening. I'm on to check out a few other things and I need to walk Chloe. WGN is showing Barney Miller right now. I LOVE Barney Miller; that show was hilarious!!!

Save Ianto Jones said...

PG, the character's name is Ianto Jones, Ianto with an "I". And, yes, RTD, the bastard, killed him in Episode 4 of Children of Earth.

Yes, he killed the most popular character in the fandom in order to devastate the second most popular character (and make Captain Jack available for the DW finale in December) leaving Gwen, the least popular, standing alone for Series 4.

RTD has dismissed the angry fans as "silly fangirls" to stupid to understand "good drama", and suggested that we go watch Supernatural instead.

The fans, and by fans I mean the loyal ones that watched Series 1 and 2 thus giving the numbers to push it to BBC1, are angry. Livid. Fucking pissed off! And a campaign to show our outrage has sprung up encouraging people to send coffee to BBC Wales to protest this gross error. So much buzz about this protest going on that the BBC itself posted about it on their website. A fund with Children in Need, a UK charity, in Ianto's name has also received over 3,200 BPS, or over $6,000 USD.

Anyone wishing to join can visit HERE, the website, or THE LIVE JOURNAL.

We may not be successful in bringing back Ianto to Torchwood, but our voice will be heard.

podserver said...

"why on earth is PoP not there??? I think this is huge."

IA. Everything about this feels wrong, wrong, wrong. Something is rotten in Denmark.

Special K said...

Just got home from out with friend from Philly and find this.

I sorry to see what has happened this evening.

One thing about trolls, trolls want is people to engage with them and give them attention. We've talked about it many times, that when you ignore trolls, and believe me it is very very difficult to do, they don't like it and go somewhere else.

I am sorry if there are posters who are going after people. It seems like there are those who jump in and want to stir things up and divide and conquer. The chaos and disharmony they create is the goal. Don't let them.

And just an FYI about my thoughts on twitter. It is a means of communication that has caught the trend at the moment.

There are some tweets that are real,

some that are made up (to get followers, attention, 15 minutes of fame, etc)

and others are used for PR (and that's not just for people but products, shows, anything).

If you watched twitter right after the PoP posters were releases you could watch how it spread watching twitter.

PR would be short sided and not doing their job if they didn't use twitter to the maximum their clients exposure.

Special K said...

I still think that with Disney doing the first D23 Expo they need some big movies as the big draw for their movie division. They showed a bit of Alice in Wonderland at Comic Con. But I think they are saving PoP and Alice for D23 for maximum impact for the premier of D23 Expo.

Is a smart move? Like I said before. You just don't know. But Disney very very rarely missteps in marketing and promotion. The wrote a lot of the book on it.

Special K said...

One more from me.

This is what throwing back Chinese Beers in Chinatown will get you.

The movie in Philly is using the Armory which is basically in the middle of Drexel Univ.'s campus for interiors. It has added to the chaos, there is a lot of construction in the area I guess.

And those living in Center City are pretty much meh about them filming there, since a lot stuff has been filming in Philly recently.

prairiegirl said...

Great walk tonight. This has really felt like a vacay; it's going to be sad to have to go back to work.

One observation that I've got to point out.

This twitter or blog mention by the who was he, a cab driver or whatever who took Jake somewhere and called him "the Jake Gyllenhaal" and that he was on his way to see the girlfriend, Reese Witherspoon. This comment by this guy/gal to me appears to be by someone who doesn't speak good English at all. This is more than just type-os or being a little grammar challenged. This is someone who doesn't hardly know the English language.

And no, you don't have to know English to twitter or to know HW goings ons. But I really, really find this one hard to believe. How on earth does this guy even know who in the heck Jake is, let alone that Reeke is supposed to be a couple? Did Jake just spill all his beans there in the cab?

This mention would seem to me to be a "positioning" twitter; one that put Jake in Philly prior to this weekend. Like someone said before, and I beg forgiveness that I don't give due credit; you know who you were, it seems twitter is going to be a prime tool by PR. Especially since the rags seem to have really given their glossy paged space over to the likes of Jon & Kate, Palin, Michael, John T now, and etc.

What we are seeing is a regular washing cycle with Reeke now. Except for a few Reekefests, their entire bearding campaign has read like a place of employment Book of Procedures.

Wash, Rinse & Spin. Wash, Rinse & Spin.

1-2-3-4, 1-2-3-4

red light, yellow light, green light; red light, yellow light, green light

larvae, cocoon, butterfly

fall, winter, spring, summer

lol.

Do you see what I'm talking about?

sienna said...

all the twitter talk confuses me, so instead of reading thru all the umpteen posts about it, would someone mind giving me a recap of what the current general consensus is about POP?
s.

prairiegirl said...

Thanks, Save Ianto! Oops, sorry, I thought it was lanto. I'm always getting names wrong. Oh man, I had a feeling that's what happened. That was a horrible last episode, horrible in the sense that there was alot of killing off of characters, alot of violence, alot of dark distress and unhappiness. There was nothing to feel good about at all. And I felt so sorry for the one who got left behind. When she pleaded with Jack not to leave her, she was so convincing.

I'm unhappy, too!! I think I will need to visit that journal page & sign something if there's something to sign.

Special, you make good points. Some twitters are valid; some aren't. It's a very unstable, unreliable source, though, unless one has pictures to back up what they're saying. That's my big beef with it. But that's just like a blog sighting or a blog even like Michael K. Just because Michael K says something doesn't make it true. Now when there is alot of smoke blowing in the same direction, that's usually a good sign, lol.

Hope you had a great time having Chinese food. Sigh. I love Chinese food. I had my leftover 1/2 Gates & Sons beef/ham on bread sandwich. It was no slouch, I have to say!

I don't know, Special. I know Disney wrote the book on promoting. But to not be at that convention when everyone else & their brother was there promoting their product? It'd be like my company not attending a market show and letting all the other brands have center stage while we punched 7 to 1530 and went about our daily business.

Nuh uh. You don't do that. Prince of Persia was a video game right? And ComicCon is about cartoons, characters, video games, and the like? I don't think you'd sit this one out. For what reason?

Anyway, we shall see. Well, I'm just postponing the inevitable - going to bed. lol!

Sweet dreams to y'all. Destiny, I hope your vacay is going well! Let's hope we have a better start to the week than the way we ended it.

your choice said...

The chaos and disharmony they create is the goal.

Then delete their shit. When you keep remarks on the blog that belittle people, that insult them, and tell them to leave, then you're giving the trolls attention. When you don't delete their crap then its obvious that you value the trolls that throw out 1-line insults more than the regular posters that have something valuable to add to the blog.

If I come back tomorrow and some of those useless, belittling remarks haven't been deleted, then you can count me out as a member of your group. Score 1 for PR, if you don't have a spine.

too funny said...
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yawning said...

Hi Jack.

Delete Trolls = Discourage Trolls said...

Special and Wicked, show some respect for your posters. Would you let "too funny" at 10:58 or "stupid trolls" above heckle someone in person? Call them names and insult them? When you let these remarks by trolls stay, it's embarrassing.

You know who said...

((While I'd be ecstatic if J&A and baby makes three are real, but I don't know this for a fact. I never, never would wish anyone ill will or for them to fail at their careers. And Ted still insists . . ., so I can't give up on them, but even if it isn't true and J&R are real, I won't wish Reese ill will either. People behave they way they will. I hope PoP is a success, because just maybe then Jake can live the life he wants to. :)))

^^This has been one of the most sane-ist and rational post I have read here in some time. Not hate filled and full of contempt for someone we don't really know.

You know who said...

((Special and Wicked, show some respect for your posters. Would you let "too funny" at 10:58 or "stupid trolls" above heckle someone in person? Call them names and insult them? When you let these remarks by trolls stay, it's embarrassing.))

So what you are saying is that If a poster post here and does not follow the leaders and most vocal posters thought patterns such as:
1. there is a babytile,
2. Jake is nothing but gay and only gay with no possibility of being straight or bi,
3.Hate Reese and hurl names at here continuously
4. every move is for PR benefits
5. hoping that Jake's movies (now) fail because most posters here beliefs of him is he's offended the gay community althouhg no one knows for sure what's going on in Jake's head
6. Spec. and Wicked should encourage more shouting of the regulars or posters who change names often (also) screaming: Babbler, Troll, Simply because they can't come up with reasonable explanations when asked a questions and other posters don't see it their way.
So you mean they should delete other thoughts huh.

Believe it or not, Most of the posters talking ill or bad of Jake are the regualar posters. The ones who claim to be fans also... The ones who don't think Jake deserves this on a Jake / Austin site, or won't make any irrational assumptions about his personal life are considered the Trolls or Enemy. Wow, Things have changed tremendously since Dany started her blog about Jake and Austin.
Sad indeed. Posters who like the man for who he is and give him the benefit of the doubt are considered the ENEMY now. Interesting!
Now I see it.
50's Russian or China?
Which One?

m said...

As much as I find some of the comments made unpleasant, I think its great that people can speak their mind with no censorship. There are periodic attacks on WFT2 and OMG in hopes of driving people away. But actually I think it brings us together as we circle the wagons to defend each other. Censorship is what keeps the babbler site small and drove off DC Forum posters. It is more destructive than the occasional rants we have to put up with.

Sienna, there is no consensus about POP. It was MIA at comic-con and the big question is why?

SiennaB! said...

m... good point about censorship. i get very very tired of reading some of the posts that are made here, because they give the appearance of random strangers coming in to attack and belittle the regular users of this blog, and i don't like that.

however, as you said, censorship has driven many of us away from other places we used to like to discuss jake/austin/reese/bt, etc, leaving us with few options for open, vigorous debate. so, in the big scheme of things, i'd rather be able to hash it out here than have limits put on what we can say. that's no fun.

a couple of weeks ago i made a post about REEKE on my own personal livejournal site, and got blasted by a couple of my friends who thought i was obsessed and had a problem because of the way i felt about their relationship. their comments (attacks, from my pov) were very hurtful to me, but in the end i think i'm glad for them, because they prompted me to reevaluate what i really care about in my life, and i've discovered that jake isn't nearly as important to me as he once was. i'm still interested, but it's not critical to me anymore.

however, for whatever reason, if jake is critical to someone - if he represents something bigger than just a mediocre but very hot movie star who's struggling to find his niche - well then, they need to be able to talk about him to their heart's content. and not liking everything about him does not = hating him. i don't like everything about my husband but i still love him overall.

anyway, i was just wondering what ya'll had hashed out about POP after the c/c thing. personally, at this point, i do not find him appealing in this role. the movie with Anne H. sounds much more like something i would enjoy him in. of course, i would never look at Toby Mc. and say "Spiderman!" either, but someone did and that seems to have worked out well. it shall be interesting to watch how it all plays out.

in thinking about J&R - are they real or aren't they - i keep going back to the timing of the whole thing. from what i've heard, they didn't work on R. together at all, yet suddenly, out of the blue, they are dating. when did they hook up? when did they court, for lack of a better term?

we know they really didn't have that opportunity, but the general public doesn't. they seem them in the movie together and a couple after the movie is made, and it all makes sense to them. he was never seen with other girls/women at that time, so no other woman could really suddenly appear as his steady gf and pull it off. and they both had a curse they needed to make go away: she'd been cheated on and dumped, and he was looking awfully gay and unemployable.

and the fact that - in all this time, they've had the most steady, bland, boring, almost inhuman relationship - as far as WE know - just makes it seem fake. it's like the reality version of the Truman Show.

the pics from Hwood Bowl were the first REAL looking pics of them in a long time, and then the movie afterwards, and then there's been nothing much since then. i assume from what i've read here tonite about philly that we are in for some shots from there, but oh well. that's to be expected until this runs it's course. it certainly doesn't do anyone any good to get upset about it. it's much more fun/interesting to watch when your heart's not in it.

hugs all around. s.

Kacie said...

I also wish Jake and Austin both
well in their personal lives and
careers. I know that Ted says that
they see each other in secret so
maybe that is what keeps Jake sane
at times! What caught me in the
story of Tooth Tile and Grey Goose
was the love they seemed to have
for each other despite the movie
business. I know that Ted always
said that TT and GG were both gay.
But there is a possibility that
Jake is bisexual so maybe he really
does love Reese-who knows? What I
would like to say is this: try to
live each day to the fullest, do
in your heart what makes you happy,
and cherish each day for what it is! Remember, you may not have another day. DO NOT LET THE ONES
YOU REALLY LOVE GO OUT OF YOUR
LIFE!! You may regret it for the
rest of your life. Maybe that is
why Jake has stayed in touch with
Austin-he is sort of a refreshing
breath of air!! Anyway, Hollywood
must really be something because
you have to pretend to be someone
else other than what you are! I
had better quit talking now and
I wish everyone a good week! I have
to get ready for work!

Kacie said...

Wicked and Special K, I have to say
that I think you do a really great
job on the blog! Would you if you
haven't already play "A Hard Day's
Night" by the Beatles? Is there
some way that the legs around Austin's neck could be compared with Jake's legs side by side in
another photo? It is always possible that they had a brief fling, called it quits, and have now decided to remain just friends.
It would be hard but I guess it can
be done. Take care everybody!!One
more question-is it possible that
Ted has had wrong information all
this time and was wrong from the
start? I do not think so. What do
you think?

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yay! said...

No censorship = insult and namecalling free-for-all

fangirl logic said...

Posters who like the man for who he is and give him the benefit of the doubt are considered the ENEMY now.

That's is not true and you know it.

Try reading the posts are using your head.

prairiegirl said...

You know who, go ahead & rant. And no, no one knows who in the heck you are; why should they when a regular name isn't used? Those who hide behind a regular name are hiding for a reason. I won't ever be convinced of anything different.

Sienna, I saw your post that day but I didn't read the comments. I'm sorry some people felt fit to criticize - but it sounds like the attitude very much resembles that of You Know Who.

I don't like the idea of censoring either, but that F-bleep up there is constantly bugging the heck out of me. That is an outright phrase of harrassment and if anyone here hasn't been schooled in the rules of professional business and personal harrassment, then that is a prime example. That kind of comment would get someone in my company called into a meeting and filed with a warning. I know that sounds insane on a blog, but there ought to be some kind of guideline. What are the limitations, anyway?

And the person who is namecalling to Sienna & Kacie, the self-inflicted unhappiness this kind of talk causes goes without saying. That is just beyond pathetic.

I think someone (s) are sensing a real weak moment, a chink in the armor here right now and I think OMG is really "under attack" for whatever reason. Kind of like vultures circling its prey. That is no exxageration.

I have to play union steward again and say guys, we need to stand up and fight for this blog. I know it's not mine, but someone's got to speak up here. If you care about OMG, if you care about Special & Wicked and what they've ever done for you in the past or present through this blog, through the Out Spotlights, through their personal conversations or emails or visits, then come here and stick up for this place. It was a beautiful place and right now it's being threatened by blog terrorism.

LOL, I know I'm being a little melodramatic but my feelings are sincere & real. There is a real threat here to silence the regular posters of OMG and what they believe in or once believed in.

prairiegirl said...

This isn't a double post. I'm afraid my ending comment might get lost in my verbal diahhreah (heck I can't spell that word). So I'm repeating it in bold.

I think someone (s) are sensing a real weak moment, a chink in the armor here right now and I think OMG is really "under attack" for whatever reason. Kind of like vultures circling its prey. That is no exxageration.

I have to play union steward again and say guys, we need to stand up and fight for this blog. I know it's not mine, but someone's got to speak up here. If you care about OMG, if you care about Special & Wicked and what they've ever done for you in the past or present through this blog, through the Out Spotlights, through their personal conversations or emails or visits, then come here and stick up for this place. It was a beautiful place and right now it's being threatened by blog terrorism.

LOL, I know I'm being a little melodramatic but my feelings are sincere & real. There is a real threat here to silence the regular posters of OMG and what they believe in or once believed in.

Special K said...

Just woke up. You know sleep is something that has to be done.

We will look at all the comments made.

It also appears that this is someone who is grinding the same axe they tried to grind several times before. And it is a test for myself and Wicked. Because they know whatever we choose to do can be used now and in the future for arguments later.

Thank you all of those who have been patient through this.

It is a community of people here, and it is all of us working together to make it better, no matter the difference of opinions about Jake and Austin.

Thanks PG