Going a little Colonial today since Thursday was Thanksgiving. For a long time there wasn't something called coming out. 1868 is looked upon as the first time someone publicly stated in print that they were homosexual, that was Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, who dropped his pseudonym and used his real name. But that is not to say that there weren't men and women writing about their feelings long long before then, even when then were unable to come out.
Today's OutSpotlight is Micheal Wigglesworth. A Puritan minister from the Massachusetts colony, Wigglesworth struggled with the conflict between his religious beliefs and his sexuality, setting his feelings down in the encoded pages of his diary.
At the time, religious ideas shaped the law, the European colonies of North America, which set harsh penalties for homosexual activity. Yet as they settled, the Spanish, French, and British encountered native cultures that allowed for expressions of same-sex love. And within the colonies as well, there is evidence of same-sex activity despite the violence of the law, which is included beatings and even death.
Michael Wigglesworth born in England in 1631, his father Edward,arrived in New England with his family in 1638, and in October of that year moved from Charlestown Massachusett to New Haven,CT. Michael returned to Massachusetts to attend Harvard College, graduating in 1651. A fellow and tutor in the college from 1652 to 1654, as he continued his studies toward becoming a minister. Like many Puritan clergymen, he kept a diary for recording his daily life, meditations on faith, and his battles with lust and temptation. For Wigglesworth, however, these feelings took a form that seemed dangerous to record even in his private papers.
Wigglesworth was plagued by his attraction to his male students, many of who were close to his age. The passages in his diary about these attractions are written in a secret code, allowing him to be explicit about his feelings and his fears.
On April 5, 1653, he wrote, "I find my spirit so exceedingly carried with love, that I can't tell how to take up my rest in God." On July 4, 1653, he struggled with "filthy lust" inspired by "my fond affection for my students while in their presence." Marrying in 1655, his attraction to men continued. The day after his marriage Wigglesworth confessed to his diary: "I feel stirrings and strongly of my former distemper even after the use of marriage --which makes me exceeding afraid." In 1656, he became minister of the church in Malden, Massachusetts.
In 1663 he made a voyage to Bermuda in search of health, and during his absence an associate minister was ordained at Malden. His health prevented him from officiating in the pulpit for about twenty years, during which time he studied medicine and became a skillful physician. In 1686 he resumed his pulpit labors, continuing to practice as a physician.
In 1662, Wigglesworth published an epic poem about the Last Judgment called The Day of Doom. The first 1800 copies sold out within a year, and the poem quickly became the most widely-read and frequently-memorized text of the age. The poem he pictured in vivid colors the terrors of the judgment-day and the awful wrath of an offended God. Thus the poem recommended itself to the sternest of the Calvinists as well as to their children. Excerpts from the poem are often used in college courses now to illustrate the grim and fiery tone of New England Puritanism in the 1600s. Wigglesworth's private torment, however, is seldom, if ever, mentioned in considerations of his work. Knowing Wigglesworth's private fears gives added resonance to the descriptions of the eternal torment of damnation in his writing.
Several stanzas of The Day of Doom refer to the futility of attempting to keep a secret from God:
"No hiding place can from his Face sinners at all conceal,
Whose flaming eyes hid things doth spy, and darkest things reveal."
Later he adds: "Deeds of the night shunning the light, which darkest corners sought,
To fearful blame and endless shame are there most justly brought."
No matter what Wigglesworth did to conceal his desires from his contemporaries, he felt sure that the truth would out, and damn him forever, when it really mattered.
His carefully encoded confessions were not revealed until the 1960s, when historian Edmund Morgan decoded the passages and published a full version of the diary. Wigglesworth seems to have taken his secret with him to the grave. However, a passing comment made by another minister upon his death reveals how important his decision to encode his thoughts had been. When he died in 1705, the son of one of his former students--the renowned minister Cotton Mather--preached the sermon at his funeral. In the published edition of the funeral sermon, Mather wrote that he could attest to Wigglesworth's great love and concern for his students, since he had read about it in the teacher's "reserved papers."
Sunday, November 29, 2009
OutSpotlight CVIII
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And I was going to address Bitter Haterz comment but it's not even worth it right now. As I have said before, I'll offer a rocking chair & a kitty to stroke if you want to go on believing that business. Go right on ahead.
Fascinating OutSpotlight - just fascinating. This one is right up there with your very best. I wish people would stop fighting the natural inclination of humanity to love, no matter if it is one of your own sex, or a different race, etc, causing people to hide their feelings or feel shame about them when they are natural and God-given. :'(
I agree old tymer - people should stop fighting the inclination of humanity to love - a good example is Reese and Jake.
Reese and Jake are a good example just for false marketing and faking a relationship to get publicity.
No, I think that whatever may or may not be going on with Jake and Reese is small potatoes in the scheme of things for same sex rights.
I agree, but one thing is certain - Jake's bearding with Witherspoon won't help the fight for same sex rights.
Interesting spotlight today, Special. Man, that's digging into the past alright. Poor guy. How tough was that to live like that back then? At least things aren't quite that repressed now.
I agree Old Tyme, people should be able to feel free to love who they love.
I have to say that while it is great to see Brothers getting accolades and it's nice to hear Jake say that he doesn't care how much he gets paid for a movie, he'll make it if he wants to. I'm still not quite so sure about that statement from him because frankly, his behavior isn't endorsing what he said. Quite the opposite and I am not referring just to the bearding.
I also wonder just how much impact the kids from the juvenile depts. have had on him. He can talk all he wants but until I see a change in what I've seen these past couple of years, I don't know about that one either. It sounds good. Looks good in print. But again. This comment was made when? And Brothers was done early last year. So since then, we've had behavior that is not reflecting this big impact.
So while I am glad he is getting praise for this movie and yeah, Ted is saying he & Goose are still together, I am not putting myself out there and going to fall over myself to get good & cozy. My chalkboard is not going to be that easily erased. I have to remind myself to keep it even keel. There's been too much stuff these past 3 years to just shove under the rug this easily.
Hey, this Tiger Woods thing is kind of spiraling, isn't it? He better say something.
You know, my brother & sister in law both said the same thing without hearing the other say it first. They both said he has a small child and when they heard what time it was that he went out, their first thought was that the child may've been sick and he was making that run to Walgreens for some kind of over the counter help. But like this article on CNN.com said, when you don't speak out on what happens & you dodge the press, all it does it swirl up the curiosity and get everyone to talking.
Jake's quote "If it's a big movie, I want to do it. If it's a small movie, I want to do it. I don't care how much I get paid for it." is very old.
I think it's from BBMt or Jarhead promotion time, but I'm not sure.
This is such an interesting spotlight, thanks Special K.
... it's nice to hear Jake say that he doesn't care how much he gets paid for a movie, he'll make it if he wants to. I'm still not quite so sure about that statement from him because frankly, his behavior isn't endorsing what he said.
That quote is from 2004:
May 28, 2004
Q: Are you going to keep making big films like this? Or balance it with smaller indie films?
GYLLENHAAL: Well, after this movie, I did a movie called Proof with John Madden, Gwyneth Paltrow, Anthony Hopkins and Hope Davis – which was a really incredible experience. That is a smaller-sized film. I'm about to go do a movie with Ang Lee called Brokeback Mountain, which is with Heath Ledger. So, already I'm back kind of doing sort of smaller films. But, they have a little bit more profile to them, you know? But, yes, I'm going to continue doing what I want to do. And if it means I want to go and make a big movie, if it has something to say, I will want to make it. I don't want to spend my life wasting my time. If it's a big movie, I want to do it. If it's a small movie, I want to do it. I don't care how much I get paid for it. I don't care what attention it brings, or what attention I have to bring to it – I'll do it anyway.
Interview with Jake Gyllenhaal - We talk to the Day After Tomorrow star
"Ted is saying he & Goose are still together"
I doubt he would say the contrary.
The current ciconstances make me seriously perplex.
"I think it's from BBMt or Jarhead promotion time, but I'm not sure."
I think you 're right
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Reese and Jake are a good example just for false marketing and faking a relationship to get publicity.
^^ Come on now, You don't have to buy it, do you?
"I wish people would stop fighting the natural inclination of humanity to love, no matter if it is one of your own sex, or a different race, etc,"
This seems so natural, but yet some here continue to really bitch about Jake and Reese. If you believe they are faking and you don't like it, then why watch?
It's been awhile since I have been
on here posting! It took me about
2 weeks before I started feeling
like myself after getting over the
pneumonia! Anyway, I went to the
doctor on Friday and got a chest
x-ray and a Swine Flu shot. So I
guess everything is okay!
I would like very much to have a
new recipe corner. I have maybe 1
or 2 that I can share.
About Jake and Austin, why worry
about them? They are going to live
their lives the way they want. I
just hope that they stay in touch
with each other. I do not mean to
sound so smart but it took me a long time myself to stand back and
let the situation go.
You are right, Prairie Girl, we
should be thankful for all the big
and small things in our lives!
I can't believe that Christmas
will be here before you know it!
If you believe they are faking and you don't like it, then why watch?
Reeke are fake, there is nothing to like about it, but you can't ignore the showmance if you are Jake fan.
Even WDW regularly reports about the showmance - after all PR is part of Jake's job.
^^ Well, deal with it, or move on.
OR, Except it, and "or" Move on.
It's Very Simple.
http://twitter.com/peoplemag
Breaking News: Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have broken up! Check people.com for the full story
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Breaking News: Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have broken up! Check people.com for the full story
That would be SO GREAT!!!!!!
Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have split, a source close to the actress tells PEOPLE.
No further details were given.
People magazine
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20323257,00.html
Breaking News
Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal Split
By Ulrica Wihlborg and Stephen M. Silverman
Sunday November 29, 2009 02:45 PM EST
Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal Split
Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have split, a source close to the actress tells PEOPLE.
No further details were given.
Witherspoon, 33, and Gyllenhaal, 28, costarred in the 2007 movie Rendition, after which rumors started flying about them as an off-screen couple.
By the summer of 2008, however, the rumors appeared to be confirmed, thanks, in part, to an extended Bastille Day holiday in Paris – followed, the next month, when they were seen in Marrakech, spending a Saturday strolling hand-in-hand, checking out bazaar stalls, before stepping into the shade for lunch, according to reports.
Come that Sunday, the couple reportedly stayed in their suites at the 5-star Amanjena Hotel, described as a beautiful, romantic getaway boasting a view of the Atlas Mountains.
'Very Supportive'
By that fall, Witherspoon was telling Vogue about Gyllenhall: "He's very supportive. Suffice it to say, I'm very happy in life, and I'm very lucky to have a lot of really supportive people around me who care very much for me, and, you know, that's all you can hope for in life. I am very blessed in that way."
This spring, in April, the two enjoyed a steamy escape to the Southern California desert, where they looked cozy together at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival. "Reese looked cute in a hat and bikini," an eyewitness told PEOPLE. "She was in a great mood and kept chatting with Jake between sips of a piƱa colada."
And as recently as last month, things still appeared to be running smoothly between the two, with Witherspoon telling InStyle, "We spend the weekends outside L.A, in Ojai, where I have a farmhouse. We have chickens and we grow cucumbers and tomatoes. I love it. It reminds me of where I grew up in Tennessee."
Oscar Recognition
Witherspoon, the 2006 Oscar winner as Best Actress for her role as June Carter Cash in the Johnny Cash biopic Walk the Line, was married for seven years to her Cruel Intentions costar Ryan Phillippe, until their 2006 divorce. They have two children, Ava, 10, and Deacon, 6.
Gyllenhaal's high-profile roles included those in Brokeback Mountain, which earned him a 2006 Oscar nomination.
Last year, Witherspoon costarred with Vince Vaughn in the holidays Four Christmases, about a couple who all but split due to pressures brought on by their respective families.
The end is near? Could it finally be over? The people article sounds like a spoof, going through the various bogus storylines trough which their "relationship" comes across as incredibly false.
I really really hope this is true
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'Even WDW regularly reports about the showmance'
If you think so, you can't be reading WDW.
Glory Hallelujiah - it's their headline story. I can't believe it.
'Even WDW regularly reports about the showmance'
She did.
She even posted Reeke tweets, not to mention ALL, and I mean every single Reeke photo op.
But Reeke is done!!!!
Yeaaah,finally.
I'm soooooooo happy...
:)
Daily Mall has rumors about Jake and Anne....
Went to the Christmas Parade, Thanks Santa. Guess I am on the Nice list this year.
People is kind of the go to get the "official" news out.
I am, how do I put it,optimistic.
Who in the world is consoling his sad broken heart? A long tall Texan. Hook'em horns.
Tom,
will you go and see 'Brothers'?
I thought Anne was dating Josh Lucus.
It might be a good thing that filming has just finished on the new movie Love And Other Drugs, starring Anne Hathaway and Jake Gyllenhaal.
Jake, 28, is currently dating Reece Witherspoon while Anne is seeing actor Adam Shulman – but with 3,000 miles between Anne and her man, it was left to Jake to help her celebrate her 27th birthday recently.
‘Jake and Anne have been getting on really well in Pittsburgh where they are filming,’a source said. ‘They have been spending a lot of time with each other off screen and Jake surprised Anne with a special dinner party in his trailer for just the two of them as a birthday treat.’
The pair starred in the 2005 hit Brokeback Mountain, in which they played husband and wife. ‘They have had to film a lot of love scenes so the ice has definitely been broken,’ added the source.
I'm not going to jump for joy yet. Could be just another attempt to steal publicity by Reese. That is her forte and this is just before Jake's film opens. It fits her timing with Ryan events. Besides, it's just been a bearding contract anyway so there could be some pre-arranged terms prior to its ex date to milk the publicity.
WDW has a link to a Brothers spoof that is pretty funny.
I do hope Jake uses this opportunity to openly rebuild his true life with Austin.
PINB says he is doing cartwheels all over his house and down the street at the breakup news. I think that will be the predominant reaction to the fauxmance.
Can you imagine my celebration?
Can you imagine my celebration?
I am. ; )
I would build a shrine for Anne if Jake left Reese for her. Only makes me like Anne even more than I already do. But then that would indicate Jake has good taste in women and Anne has good taste in men--something neither has been guilty of--sadly.
I really would not think we're going to see Jake "hooking up" with Anne. They're just doing a movie together.
He's probably going to be portrayed in the rags as "grieving" for awhile and then will get to be single & unattached just in time for PoP.
I wonder if this or the BIZARRO (what is that about??) Tiger Woods story will be the US Weekly cover story?
Finally. I guess their management finally figured out what we'd known all along -- that the fauxmance was a flop. (I sort of also wonder if the Oscar buzz around Brothers didn't embolden Jake or his reps to move him out of Reese's shadow).
If Jake decides to beard again, I hope he does so in a more low-key way, with someone whom he actually, say, enjoys being with for the occasional photo op. (Anne would be fine with me, not that I have a voice in the matter).
marcmalkin: Jake's rep just told me not true. Jake and reese are still together!
http://twitter.com/marcmalkin/status/6180442625
Story that Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal have split up is 'false.'
A spokeswoman for Reese Witherspoon has told EW that a story which broke earlier today about the star having split with Jake Gyllenhaal is “false.” The two actors first started dating after they were both cast in the 2007 film Rendition.
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/11/29/story-that-reese-witherspoon-and-jake-gyllenhaal-have-split-up-is-false/
I smell a rat. I think they are done but didn't want the story to come out so quickly. I smell a Jessica Biel/Justin Timberlake reprise here.
I smell a Jessica Biel/Justin Timberlake reprise here.
More info, please.
So not quite the time to break out the champagne just yet, but looks like the end is nigh. Just think that the 'source' jumped the gun a bit.
Amazig how quickly sites like just jared react, you can tell who pays their bills can't you.
I smell a rat. I think they are done but didn't want the story to come out so quickly. I smell a Jessica Biel/Justin Timberlake reprise here.
Kind of smell a Reese here, pulling the trigger early, just days before Jake's first release in 2 years. Kind of how she could't let Ryan get the spotlight alone. You wonder if he went off on her for pulling this crap like this.
But come on People just don't write stuff up like this, they are usually the mouthpiece for information like that. And man the denial was quicker than they have ever done any corrections before. It lends me to think that it wasn't the right time for it. Maybe because of the Jake and Anne story and Reese could not look like he was with someone else.
Lot to think about. But they have to see how many people were excited for them to break up.
The news I want to see on Nikke Finke is that Jake fired his manager and moved to a new agency. That may actually be behind the retraction, since they shared agents. That would be the real sign that he realizes what a mistake the bearding has been.
Kind of how she could't let Ryan get the spotlight alone. You wonder if he went off on her for pulling this crap like this."
I agree with every word you say, Special K.
I smell a rat, too. A big one.
There's no way People is going to put a headline up like that and come out smelling. People is the source for HW news, sorry. The fact that it was so definite tells me, too, that the end is near.
Special, you might have a point about that Jake/Anne story. That was going to make Reese look like she might be getting dumped for another lady. And she is not going to have that, uh uh.
And who comes out with the denial? US Reekly. People comes out with the lead story. Who are you going to go with?
Reesey baby, just hand over the reins and be done with it. The damage has been done and the story leaked.
More games. More shenanigans. I hope this blows up in her face. And it is her behind all of this. She's the one pulling the strings & calling the shots. I bet the lights are on in that PR office right now and a little OT being done on a holiday weekend. Let's see, is that time & a half or double time for that office?
Reps: Jake and Reese Are Still Together
Despite reports, Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal are still very much a couple, according to their reps.
Although a source close to the couple says their relationship has ended, reps for both say, "it is not true." Nanci Ryder and Carrie Byalick, who rep Witherspoon and Gyllenhaal respectively, tell PEOPLE, "They are still together."
Developing story ...
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20323262,00.html
And what a big distraction from his week of opening up for Brothers, like you said, Special. It's his week and he was getting the accolades for his performance.
Now this "are they or aren't they" business is going to be a distraction. If I was him, I'd drop kick her into a silo full of chocolate pudding so fast her head would spin.
LOL - when I was googling US Weekly, I typed in www.usreekly.com. LOLLLLL! I did it again. oops!
You got to love dlisted
"Blind Items will EXPLODE over this shit. Ted Casablanca passed the hell out. Some source tells People that Jakey G and Reese Witherspoon have said "so long, farewell" to each other after 2 years. No, seriously. Jakey totally performed "So Long, Farewell" from The Sound of Music for Reese. Jakey did it in costume and everything. He's serious about his goodbyes.
The source didn't give any details on why they split up.
Jakey just decided that his beard was getting too itchy and it was time to shave it all off. And Reese got bored with listening to Jakey and his "friend" rough house in the next room while she knitted a little bag for his favorite pair of anal beads.
And the line to be Jakey's next beard forms to the left. That wasn't meant for you, Squinty Zellweger. You've got your own!"
"I think they are done but didn't want the story to come out so quickly.
I smell they aren't, just pub for movie!
Wow, what a surprise: People run a story saying that Reese and Jake have split up, Jake and Reese's reps deny it, and Special K and Prairiegirl blame Reese. No evidence to suggest that she has anything to do with this story, just the same bitterness and eagerness to paint Reese as the evil villain in their fairy tale.
Publicity for the beard, Jake doesn't need Reeke shit to overshadow his movie.
Reese pulled stuff like this even after she was broken from Ryan when he was getting good reviews for Stop Loss. She kicked stuff up when Abby got good press for Bright Star. It is always the within days of an opening.
Weren't Jake and Anne seen at Newark Airport recently? I thought it was for odd--but then I thought maybe he's going to LA and she's flying there too. Then I read here he wasn't in LA for the holiday...
Reese pulled stuff like this even after she was broken from Ryan when he was getting good reviews for Stop Loss. She kicked stuff up when Abby got good press for Bright Star. It is always the within days of an opening.
That's not true. Sorry, but I remember all the predictions on how Reese would be arranging a Reeke outing to overshadow Abby in Bright Star, and the only photo opportunity we got was Abby and Ryan out with the kids. Strangely enough, you never said anything about Abby and Ryan using the children to get more PR for her film. So, that's one lie dealt with. As for Stop Loss, tell me Special K, how does Reese getting her picture on the front cover of US Weekly do anything to overshadow Stop Loss? Please use your brain and answer that one. Stop Loss was a small film; it's not as if she stole column inches that would have gone to Stop Loss.
So, you pulled out two examples, one of which is false and the other is dubious at best. Anything else?
Sheridan got it right. Jake likes to be the center of attention, but so does you know who. She cant stand to let anyone else have the limelight. Reese is and always will be a villain.
If PR was wondering if the Jake is gay knowledge ever dissipated, this story is a good barometer. Toothy Tile, Austin, bearding, are all being mentioned in comments. Their efforts to shift his image have been a failure.
But since when People magazine is reliable source?
Visitors aren't happy. And their tower is ready to fall.
"Toothy Tile, Austin, bearding, are all being mentioned in comments. Their efforts to shift his image have been a failure"
In fact i am surprised to see it's 50/50
Man, what a deal. I'm sorry, but in this particular case, either something got leaked beforehand for whatever reason or they're going to milk this thing out.
Prime example: LeeAnn Rimes. Rumors of her & that actor co-star having a fling plus video confirmation. Then they both deny it. "Everything's fine" "They are working through their problems" storylines come out. Then a couple weeks later, the truth comes out and before you know it, voila! both couples are divorcing and now you see the both of them carrying on in front of the cameras as if they were brand new lovebirds.
That's how these HW things go. First come the leaked stories of trouble in paradise. Then both sides deny it, say everything is fine, stories are false. Then the truth comes out couple of weeks later.
It's a Simplicity pattern for HW breakups.
we can hope
It isn't about overshadowing it is about taking the spotlight away from others. And if I remember she she had the cover and the spread in In Style about her amazing life when Bright Star opened in London. And all the press coverage picking up those quotes.
And hmm how does getting the cover of national celebrity tab like US Weekly take away from her ex' opening, well putting her faux relationship on the cover gave her the sympathy of her "rebuilding" and refinding love, especially when her ex and his girlfriend were both in Stop Loss. Poor Poor Reese, the dumped divorcee, the struggling single mom. Bullshit.
She made Ryan stay together for the press (even when they were living apart) until after the award season and she got her Oscar for Walk the Line. Why the hell do you think Ryan was so sauced with Shirley MaClain, just to get it over with. When did she have the huge blow out - DURING HIS premiere party at Flags of our Fathers. Couldn't let him get the accolades that night could she. After he put up and played nice for her. But it doesn't work the other way round.
Reese can't let anyone else get more than her. From stories in her past like she's been like that all her life and doubt it will ever change.
Real Life's been a bitch for me this year, so my spirits would be lifted no end if the end of the Reeke charade really is nigh, or has actually occurred!
The greater distance Jake can put between himself and that creature and pronto, the sooner he'll shake off how he has been tainted by the ill-judged liaison/business arrangement. Not sure I'll ever feel quite the same about him as I did pre-Witherwitch, but it would be good to have back the Jake we thought we once knew...
It's over, it's over, it's OOOOOOOHHHHHVER!
Ahem, sorry. Just had to get that out of my system. ;)
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How about them Chiefs.
In response to the very sudden denial that the split has not happened I have to use a quote from someone at ONTD...
"Shame, he'd suddenly become attractive to me again for a minute there."
What difference in your life, would it make if Jake breakup with Reese or continue with her? Do you all live vicariously through Jake? All Jake owes the fans is a good performance. He's not a god, I don't worship him.
SK said
And hmm how does getting the cover of national celebrity tab like US Weekly take away from her ex' opening, well putting her faux relationship on the cover gave her the sympathy of her "rebuilding" and refinding love, especially when her ex and his girlfriend were both in Stop Loss. Poor Poor Reese, the dumped divorcee, the struggling single mom. Bullshit.
Trolls never leave! lol
Could be, too, that they are going to milk this out for awhile.
Now here's the interesting thing, people. It's Jake's rep who denied the story. So Jake is confirming through his rep that they are a couple.
Or do reps ever put something out w/o the star's consent? I doubt it these days.
The fact that Jake's people are denying the split is just as good as Jake getting on Letterman and saying it. Of course, it's still not him saying it in his own voice, it's printed word and it's his rep. But that's just a tiny detail at this point.
Someone gave People this story. It did not appear out of thin air. Now whether they're just going to use it for publicity for Jake's movie & also get her some as well since they've been having a drought, remains to be seen.
It would be pathetic if this was just done to get him attention for his movie. I was thinking it could all be Reese but now that I see it's his rep who's doing the denying, that puts a whole different spin on it.
I don't know what everyone else's thoughts are on this. To me, it's unbelievable to see People put this up on their web page as their top story and then put up another secondary story (under Tiger Woods, lol) just a couple hours later retracting their own story!!!
That is totally unbelievable for me to see People do that.
Here she is again, haters, the woman you adore to hate and can’t ignore. She bamboozles you. You envy her, so you hate her, and yet you can’t ignore her because you are fascinated by her. Pooooor pooooor little haters, must be psychologically very difficult for them. LOL
Grace, please chill, will ya? Nobody's taking it all that seriously, we're just havin' a little fun is all.
It isn't about overshadowing it is about taking the spotlight away from others.
Yes, and Stop Loss wouldn't have had the spotlight, so Reese couldn't take away something it never had.
And if I remember she she had the cover and the spread in In Style about her amazing life when Bright Star opened in London.
I think you're remembering incorrectly, and even if you were correct, how does having one spread in one magazine in one territory at around the same time that Bright Star opened effect anything in any way? And since you ignored it the first time, why have you never made any comments about Ryan and Abbie (correcting the spelling of her name) having a photo op with the kids around the time Bright Star was opening in the US?
She made Ryan stay together for the press (even when they were living apart) until after the award season and she got her Oscar for Walk the Line.
For heaven's sake Special K, are you ever going to provide any kind of evidence for the stuff you say? Reese "made" Ryan stay with her? Really? What's your source for this latest fantasy? And did you happen to forget that Ryan's film, Crash, was also in the running for some Oscars? And, if we're actually using our brains here, isn't wouldn't more likely reason to want to "stay together" til after the award season be to avoid having to announce a separation at a time when you're going to be under intense media scrutiny? Or is that option too logical and not nasty enough for you?
Why the hell do you think Ryan was so sauced with Shirley MaClain, just to get it over with.
How the hell would I, or you, or anyone other than Ryan know why he gets drunk? Why did he get so drunk that he missed doing some promotion for The Big Bang club at Cannes whilst with Abbie? Why did he get drunk and stumble around being abusive to people in Australia whilst with Abbie? Does the fault lie with the woman in his life, or with him? Or does your answer change based on whether you like the woman or not?
So congratulations, you've still only managed to come up with two examples, one of which is a lie and the other is dubious, but now you've made your argument even weaker by showing how you turn a blind eye to all the things which run counter to the fairytale you tried to tell.
are you ever going to provide any kind of evidence for the stuff you say?
Any evidence that Reeke is a real couple? Just tabloid bullshit and paparazzi photo ops? Yes, we know.
Mmmm Bitter you can't stand it. Your head is ready to explode.
Ryan was drunk on the Golden Globes on TV when Reese won for Walk the Line. I saw the interviews of him talking about making bets and drinking with Shirley MacLaine that year.
Go back and check about the argument for Flag of Our Fathers. Special is right about that too.
I looked up the In Style magazine and she is right it came out the week Abbie's movie opened in London.
Bitter haterz, can you explain something to me? I want you to address this question and this one only. I don't want to hear any babble about the blue ring or how bitter we are or twisted psyches. I want your take on this and I don't want you disappearing on us. Let me hear it.
You tell me this.
Jake + Heath in a photo together at a BBM event. Jake with a full, head on boner in his tux.
Jake + former co star at lunch last year (or was it this year? I can't remember) in his blue shorts. Shaking hands goodbye. Flagpole at half/full mast.
Would you explain the possible such cause behind said physical reactions? Would you tell me if Reese or any female was anywhere in the vicinity of these 2 occurrences that could have been the indirect cause? Are you seeing something I am not because I'm not seeing a skirt anywhere in the direct vicinity during both of these instances.
I've also heard a mention that there may have possibly been a third such drawbridge raising that happened between him & Ryan Philippe when working out but I've not gone to IHJ to verify this, lol.
That's beside the point, tho. These 2 are right there; we've all seen it.
"That is totally unbelievable for me to see People do that."
if it's a PR plan , why not? People is a PR magazine right?
Jersey Tom to see "Brothers".
I will wait to hear your take on this, bitter.
Oh, and btw, that was a male co-star at that luncheon. The red haired guy. I can never remember his name.
Funny how when the JiG mob attack everyone else, they never address the issues:
* Proof that the blue rock means that J&A are together
* Proof that it is Jake sitting on Austin's shoulders, keeping the back of his neck moist.
The lack of response is proof that it is all fantasy.
They have waited with bated breath and moist panties for this day when Jake & Reese announce their "break-up". Well, you had your 36mins of moistness, now it's back to fantasizing for another 2 years about cheap blue rings and butch female legs.
They ARE still together L-O-L.
A representative has denied that Jersey Tom will be seeing Brothers. A friend of a friend has told us that the only way in hell Jersey Tom will see Brothers is if he gets a Jake and Austin pic first.
Sorry Smiley.
Ryan was fine in Australia until the paparazzi hurled insults at them and then he yelled back and took off after them for a minute and then moved on and left. The Aussie paps are shockingly vile. Most American celebs are really taken aback by what they get away with. I doubt Jake who can't even handle TMZ's ass kissing when he's sober would have reacted much better.
He skipped early morning interviews in Cannes that were scheduled the morning after Abbie's premiere but went to the luncheon later in the day looking fine.
Don't try to make Ryan into David Hasselhoff to defend Reese.
I'm waiting....Irony/Bitter/Nick D/Chris/Them Weekly....
still waiting....
Reese told InStyle in October, “We spend the weekends outside L.A, in Ojai, where I have a farmhouse. We have chickens and we grow cucumbers and tomatoes. I love it.” Translation? Reese has been spending her weekends in Ojai growing cucumbers and Jake has been in West Hollywood with his (ahem) “good friend” Austin Nichols.
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Translation? Their relationship was a publicists’ construct from the get because it was good for both of their careers at the time. Reese needed a publicity boost after Ryan Phillippe left her for Abbie Cornish, and Jake Gyllenhaal needed a beard because, well, he’s gay. There’s been a Hollywood MEGA rumor for ages that Jake is gay. And not a minor rumor, I mean, like a have you heard Lindsay Lohan does drugs-type no shit Sherlock rumor.
Ryan was drunk on the Golden Globes on TV when Reese won for Walk the Line. I saw the interviews of him talking about making bets and drinking with Shirley MacLaine that year.
Go back and check about the argument for Flag of Our Fathers. Special is right about that too.
I never said Special K was wrong about that. I asked her how anyone but Ryan could explain why he gets drunk and I asked her to explain why he got drunk in Australia and Cannes, since she seems to have some kind of source that tells gives her information.
Don't try to make Ryan into David Hasselhoff to defend Reese.
I'm not. Special K mentioned a time Ryan got drunk with Reese and so I mentioned a couple of occasions when Ryan got drunk with Abbie. And, yes, he got drunk at Cannes and missed scheduled interviews the next day. I suggest you complain to Special K about bringing up drunk Ryan in the first place.
Yes keep waiting for them to break-up LOL
Why is it “obvious” Reese is his beard? Is a woman who dates a man in Hollywood always his beard, if you say so? Where is he hiding his boyfriend and who exactly is the boyfriend? Furnish proof. That's right - the blue ring is proof. Subliminal messages oooooh aaaaaah
The reason I repeat what I say is that people here keep telling the same lies and when I ask for proof they fall silent because they have NO PROOF. Sorry, the proof is that photo where you can clearly see the face of the person sitting on Austin's shoulders.
I'm waiting for the proof...
Still waiting....
Funny how when the JiG mob attack everyone else, they never address the issues...
Funny how JiS trolls post on JiG blog all the time and demand to be respected. LMAO
I'm waiting for the proof...
Still waiting....
Go back to GB. No one wants to waste time on trolls or care what you believe.
prairiegirl said...
You tell me this.
Jake + Heath in a photo together at a BBM event. Jake with a full, head on boner in his tux.
Jake + former co star at lunch last year (or was it this year? I can't remember) in his blue shorts. Shaking hands goodbye. Flagpole at half/full mast.
Yeeeeah, you saw a slightly off-color mark on Jake's shorts and claimed that it was baby tile's footprint, a baby you now think doesn't even exist, so I'm going to need to see some links to these pictures before I believe Jake had a boner.
So, post links to the pictures please.
Waiting...
Still waiting...
No, bitter, you answer my question first. There is no 100% proof it is male or that we know who exactly it is.
And I asked you to address my question. Quit sidestepping it. You don't have one, do you?
I'm not doing a link for you. You go to IHJ and look at them. The proof is there.
I am literally laughing my behind off at this. Unbelievable.
a other "brothers" report
"http://www.gossipcentral.com/"
lol, you don't have an answer, do you? So you have to resort to the namecalling to try & distract.
Thanks. We have our answer now.
Back to our regular programming.
prairiegirl said...
I'm not doing a link for you. You go to IHJ and look at them. The proof is there.
Hahaha. You ask us to comment on these pictures and then don't even have the courage to post the links to the pictures so that we can look at them? You don't even know what YEAR one of these pictures come from, but you expect us to find it??? What a joke! Unbelievable. I'm literally laughing out loud over here. It's almost as funny as the baby tile footprint theory. How's that one holding up, Prairie?
Still waiting for you to post the links to the boner pictures...
Still waiting...
bitter...
how about this: you prove that they are dating and in love. prove that there is more going on that getting coffee and a couple of stale kisses in front of a pap camera for the sake of publicity.
go ahead. i'm anxious for all the juicy details we've been missing out on all this time. :)
Let me present the 4 Wonders of Jake's World
1. Mysterious blue ring that hypnotizes people
2. Disembodied she-male legs
3. Jake can crack a fat (waiting on photograhic proof)
4. Footprint of the elusive Baby-tile - taken by a dingo.
You know exactly what I'm referring to, give me a break. I'm not linking them for you; 1) I'm too lazy 2) I don't have to. As if the Heatherection picture hasn't been posted on WFT2 1000 times already. And don't tell me you don't go over there as well. Whether you just troll OMG or you troll both OMG & WFT2, you know full well these pictures exist and they exist in full technicolor. I don't have to give you a link because the proof is in black & white, chartreuse, blue, green, red, green & olive. I'll stake my name on it. That's good enough.
Hey sienna! Sorry for the false alarm. Can you believe this stuff today?? I was going to PM you again but my email is bogged down with requests to friend. Which I should be doing right now; well, I sort of am in between comments and putting up Christmas lights. I can't believe my email.
Until I hear an answer/explanation, I"m done with you. You're all the same person anyway, just using different names.
Finis.
Special has a ton of better things to do than deal with me inviting trouble and having to monitor this garbo. sorry, Special; my fault, my fault.
But I stand by my original question.
don't worry about the false alarm, PG: they would never let it be this easy. that would take all the excitement and last minute umph out of it if they just said, "we're over" and walked away. that nevers happens.
but i think they've either done what they set out to do - got themselves over an awkward period, or just realized they were beating a dead horse and decided to let it go. either way, i'm sure it's in its death throes. :)
Can't find the one with Heath right now but two out of three aint' bad.
Jake and Mike White
Jake and Ryan
Um, you know the interesting question here is wtf is going on with the People stories. People is really the most publicist-friendly mag around, particularly when it comes to A-ish-listers like Reese and Jake. The breakup story would not have shown up without a big green light from their reps. So why the quick denial? Is it usual for public breakups to be reported, denied, and then finally confirmed? Is there some lack of co-ordination between the Jake and Reese teams? (Although they share some management, so you'd think they'd all be on board). Given how much they've invested in the fake relationship, planting a breakup story in People isn't something they'd do without thinking it through (I'd hope) -- if they just wanted to get Reese's name out there (for instance) there are a million better ways to do it.
Aw, thank you, something's up. It takes me so long to do those things.
Hey, think I'll take a gander at that Jake/Ryan one, LOLL! I had just heard a rumor on that particular one, not actually seen the pudding proof.
tr, if you are out there, I would love to hear what you have to say about today's caught-off-guard occurrance. Did I spell occurrance right? Is it ance or ence?
You know exactly what I'm referring to, give me a break. I'm not linking them for you; 1) I'm too lazy 2) I don't have to. As if the Heatherection picture hasn't been posted on WFT2 1000 times already. And don't tell me you don't go over there as well. Whether you just troll OMG or you troll both OMG & WFT2, you know full well these pictures exist and they exist in full technicolor. I don't have to give you a link because the proof is in black & white, chartreuse, blue, green, red, green & olive. I'll stake my name on it. That's good enough.
Stop with the inane babbling and the claiming to have psychic powers that enable you to know what I have seen and where I post. Was it really that hard for you to just post the links? I don't buy the too lazy argument for one second, since it takes less effort to copy/paste a link then it does to type out that pile of weak excuses.
But since something's up has finally done what you should have done already, I'll take a look and comment after.
I know, charbydis, that's what is puzzling me. I don't get it. I mean, we all know People can spin with the best of them but they are the "go to" of the rags. They are the cream of the crop.
I mean, one part of me thinks it's publicity for Brothers.
But there's still something funny about People putting it up, retracting on it, and yet still saying that their source says they have broken up. What the heck?
tr, where are you?!! Need some insight as to how this works! Are you watching the football games? Putting up your tree? Watching 60 Minutes? Snoozing? Can you help an in-the-dark blogger?
I'll take a look and comment after.
Don't bother.
i haven't seen the heath pic with the boner. i'd like to. does anyone have a link?? =D
i love boner pics!
how is this good publicity for Brothers? i can't figure that out.
Ok, I've seen the two pictures and, hahaha, you call THAT an erection? Have you ever seen an erect penis? There's barely a bulge there! If you think Jake's shorts are tenting then you must believe Jake has a penis smaller than my little finger. No wonder you weren't keen on posting the links!
My theory of Reese pulling the trigger while it is infuriating some, still stands with me. That's why I think they were so quick to do the retraction. She got called on it by Jake and the management had to bandaid it up and quick because they still have to provide him the services he pays them for, especially weeks like this, and especially after two years since his last premiere. They had to patch it, get the attention back on his work this week, and then deal with "fauxmance" after. Reese has her own publicist aside from management at 360. It could have been her publicist who did the call to People without 360 knowing.
Flak jacket and helmet in place.
I think it is fairly common to have a story about a pending breakup, divorce, a denial and then later a confirmation. One example that comes to mind is Brad and Jen. We'll have to wait and see.
Heath would give anyone a boner, goes without saying, needs no proof. But the best defense is a good offense, I guess. Sigh. Look at the number of posts.
Things always get wild when I am crazy busy and on the way out of town.
Lots to think about, and i think everyone but the trolls has valid points. Agree it seems to have reese' finger prints on it* would love to see ;ake get a new manager, and agree with PG (who was kind enough to give me a heads up on the story) about ;ake's manager being so quick to deny when they never confirmed anything in the past. It is as good as jake shouting to thr world about her.
Another boner
Jake must be attracted to the white pole on the ground AND that means the white pole and Jake are ghey.
Ok, I've seen the two pictures and, hahaha, you call THAT an erection? Have you ever seen an erect penis? There's barely a bulge there! If you think Jake's shorts are tenting then you must believe Jake has a penis smaller than my little finger. No wonder you weren't keen on posting the links!
Bullshine aren't guys the ones who write about Jake boning Reese all the time? Deflated fantasies for you guys,so sad.
Bitter - Give it a rest. That picture is the day he was working out with Ryan.
Sienna, I'll look it up for you. It's the best of the 3, Matt being second best. I admit the Ryan one is a little disappointing, but uh....there's a little excitement/titillation going on there, LOLLL!
And I mean Jake is giving Heath a full eye-you know what while he's at attention. It's awesome.
Your theory doesn't infuriate me, Special K. It's full of holes, assumptions and lies, and as such if I had to categorise it I would call it "amusing". And, after I pointed out your errors, baseless assumptions and lies you've chosen to pretend it doesn't exist and made a new post in which you yet again paint Reese as the villain, making a whole new series of assumptions for which you have less than zero evidence. Now that's a pattern.
Bloody trolls.
Reese in Nashville? No Jake
# A little byrd told me Reese Witherspoon is hanging at Whiskey Kitchen tonight. about 1 hour ago from web
Tweet
# props to @heatherbyrd for breaking the news that Reese Witherspoon was at Whiskey Kitchen havin dinner with her Dad and no Jake Gyllenhaal! 16 minutes ago from web
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Full of holes? She gave facts, you choose to ignore. You won't even look them up. There'll out there. Come on Special has messed up some dates and a picture or two, but she's never lied. You just can't stand that she FINALLY called Reese out.
Here is dlisted's theory on the retraction "UPDATE: Reese's spokesbitch says this shit ain't true. Her rep told UsWeekly, "It's not true. They have not split." Hmm. Reese must still be trying to renegotiate with Jakey. Reese, give Jakey weekends off and throw in a monthly anal bleaching and he will sign on the dotted line. Guaranteed!"
Seriously, its obvious there was a miscommunication on the timing of the breakup notice. With on line ticket sites now in use, the studio already has a pretty good idea if tickets are selling for Brothers. The last thing they need is Reese stealing the movies thunder and I do believe that was her intent. Hell hath no fury like a beard about to be dumped, or exposed. And again, she does this every time. Cant stand to see Jake, Tobey and Natalie mentioned but not her own name.
To the trolls, keep typing and wasting your time. It keeps you occupied and off your own site, but will have no impact on us whatsoever.
One commenter elsewhere did say that pissing People off by feeding them a false story is not a good idea. They may retaliate against Reese just like the paps who post all those unflattering pictures.
UPDATE: Reese's spokesbitch says this shit ain't true. Her rep told UsWeekly, "It's not true. They have not split." Hmm. Reese must still be trying to renegotiate with Jakey. Reese, give Jakey weekends off and throw in a monthly anal bleaching and he will sign on the dotted line. Guaranteed!
Jake little boy standing to attention! lol
Full of holes? She gave facts, you choose to ignore.
I didn't ignore anything. She gave me facts, like Ryan got drunk when he was with Reese. But she invented the reason why he got drunk and has repeatedly failed to provide any evidence to back up her assumption. She's also ignored my questions about Ryan getting drunk with Abbie, which is pretty rich of her considering she asked me to explain why he got drunk with Reese. She talked about Reese and Ryan staying together during the award season, assuming it was all down to Reese and her desire to win an Oscar whilst ignoring the Ryan had a film in competition and ignoring the less nasty reasoning that announcing your separation at a time when the media spotlight isn't on you would be a lot less stressful. Special K went so far as to say that Reese made Ryan stay with her. Either Special K has some incredible sources or she's just making this stuff up as she goes along.
So Special K makes up some kind of "pattern" for Reese's actions, except that she can only find two examples of this pattern and they are both either false or weak in the extreme. Don't get mad just because someone is finally calling her out on her fantasies.
Friendly warning: My browser just blocked Stiff's link, so it might be a virus. I suggest you don't click on it.
Don't get mad just because someone is finally calling her out on her fantasies.
LOL
We are getting mad because you keep trolling and posting BS.
Sheesh, that's harsh! But in the interest of this website, I do agree that if they want to be taken a lil' bit seriously, that gal needs to STFU, lol!
Like the pattern of baggy shirt=Reese pregnant Mmm Bitter?
Thanks to our friends at WFT2 who came through with a quick guide to the exact awards that it happened at, Sienna, here is the link:
http://www.iheartjakemedia.com/displayimage.php?album=239&pos=50
Sorry it's not the full link. It was at the Directors Guild Awards 2006. File 51 of 77 if you want to just go to IHJ.
8:34: Someone posted the other day on another blog that Jake and anne flew from Pittsburgh to Newark early morning on Thanksgiving so that Anne could celebrate Thankgiving with her family in NJ and Jake could connect to a flight to Nashville. Claimed that was the only connecting flight that early in the morning. Also claimed that he stayed for that one day and then flew back to Ny on Friday to spend the rest of the holiday with his family while Reese and the kids stayed in Nashville with her family.
I called BS, thinking she was in L.A. avoiding the paps but then i saw that tweet from Nashville with her Dad.
Also after that tweet of Jake at the airport on Thursday, there were no more tweets of him until Friday, late afternoon and night in Soho shopping and at dinner , solo. I think there was a tweet of him yesterday and that's it.
Now it could be that he was actually in Brooklyn or Manhattan on Thursday having dinner with family, no need for him to go out and be spotted, but I did take note of the time, the poster could have done the same but were they guessing about her being in Nashville? Hmmm.
I think the original story was PR approved, anyrhing for publicity.
And if for instance he was in Nashville and he or they weren't spotted that day they could say he was indoors having dinner.
As far as him not being seen in Nashville today? Some tweets claim that he has 2 more days of filming (tomorow and Tuesday) even though IMDB says that the film is in post-production.
And yes Jake's rep was the first to deny the split.
Jake in NYC Tweet 11/27
Thanks to our friends at WFT2 who came through with a quick guide to the exact awards that it happened at, Sienna, here is the link:
Because I'm not gutless, I'm going to say the same thing here that I said over on WFT2:
Hey Prairie, next time you want to shit talk someone, have the guts to do it to their face instead of playing holier-than-thou on OMG and then bitching about them on WFT2. What a two faced piece of work you are.
And because I'm capable of being fair, I'll say that at least this picture shows some evidence that Jake might have a semi-semi-erection, although if you think that was caused by a full erection then you're still saying Jake has a tiny, tiny penis. A flaccid penis could produce the exact same effect though.
You know, now what's funny about Jake's people denying the split is he hasn't even said one single word about them until he "sort of" indirectly did in that interview when that guy asked about the paparazzi.
3 years and Jake doesn't say one single word about Reeke. Himself, that is.
But this story comes out and boy, his people are on the horn saying they're still together and I mean within a couple of hours.
Now there just isn't something right about that, I don't care how one explains it.
Once again, anything Reeke does makes no sense.
Tweet, yes that was the twwet that I was talking about. It was Friday, in Soho in the afternoon. It was the first tweet of him in NY after the tweet of him at the airport early Thursday morning.
That's over 24 hours between tweets and what i was trying to figure out: was he in Nashville out of sight or NY out of sight? And did the poster on the other blog just guess that Reese was in Nashville and did they post BS based on a lucky guess and his IMO plausible "disappearence" after the airport sighting?
NY? Nashville? Then on cue a sighting in Nashville with a family member? And odd that on previous occasions, Jake was at least spotted with Maggie or Peter but on Friday and Saturday he was solo and what at least appeared to me as shopping after Thanksgiving, then today so far zero. On his way to L.A.???
Just odd, I dont trust either of them.
I'm confused, PR. Was there a tweet placing him in Nashville?
Icicle lights look fabulous above the patio doors. Have a new patio tree on the little 5 x 5 slab as well.
lol, well, I think it's a little bigger than 5 x 5, but it sure seems that small.
And my little light up snowman is out there as well.
Next up? Lights in the windows while Barney Miller is on.
Totally agree PG. Maybe one reason is because, as I have speculated before, this is tied to POP and they know Disney would not be happy with a breakup.
One thing is for sure, Jake's mission to be tabloid fodder continues with that denial.
Fascinating spotlight today Special. It's wonderful that we have his secret diaries.
I haven't led by the best example today and I must apologize for that.
This is a lot going on of course many people jump over here to strike. One thing about OMG, we don't go to over sites and try to convince people about Jake, people find us. We don't find the need to proselytize JIG and Jake and Austin, yet there is an imperative for some that they must convince us that JIS.
Hope that everyone can take a step back, watch things shake out, and see what happens.
I have proven that I can snap back and engage and what do you get from that? Really not that much except shouting and name calling. Doesn't change my mind about Jake, or Reese, or their fauxmance. I can't change anyone else's mind, they have their own mind to make up, so basically is just nothing but aggravation. Guess I need follow my own advice and not engage, and just let them grow bored and leave.
Ok, I take it back. Apparently you have no problem lying on both OMG and WFT2. I hope you're proud of yourself for calling me a troll because I had the nerve to ask you to post links to the pictures you were asking to be commented on.
And you have the nerve to talk to me about filthy language? Oh, see, I was just saying that you weren't a two faced, but here you are saying I use filthy language but you aren't saying anything to special who used the word bullshit. So I guess you are two faced.
You're the one who's acting like a troll, calling me names here and then going to another site and abusing me there too. Calling you out on your disgusting behaviour on WFT2 isn't trolling. And stop acting like you know me. You don't. I've commented on the pictures, as you requested, so you can stop trolling now.
Don't think this is attached to PoP unless it is a breakup. Why?
The thing Disney wants is Jake unattached. They need a single sexy hero, not one attached to a divorce mom with two kids. It doesn't really sell the fantasy of the dashing, epic romantic hero.
And stop acting like you know me. You don't.
We don't know who you are because you are hiding behind different names, but we do know that you're a troll, that's more than obvious.
I have proven that I can snap back and engage and what do you get from that? Really not that much except shouting and name calling
Err, Special K, all you've done so far is avoid engaging with my points. I've made them a few times now, and none of them have involved shouting or name calling. Please don't pretend that you've been forced to disengage with me because you've been getting attacked, because you haven't. You have the right to ignore me, but don't act like the victim when all I've asked you to do is provide something more than fantasies to shore up your theories.
Trolls, stop wasting out time with your BS.
As usual, Michaek KM cracks me up. And boy did he lay it on thick this time, even throwing in Ted. :-D
I would agree with that, Special. I don't see how that's going to help sell him as an action hero on PoP.
But man, I'm the last one to offer a concrete opinion.
LOL! First I post on here early this morning that I'm not jumping excitedly on any bandwagon, it's been 3 years of you know what, blah blah blah.
Then I get all excited over People's lead story.
Then it's all retracted & I look like a schmuck. LOLLL! Well, what else is new?
Heck, I don't know what in the heck is going on.
All I know is something either went very wrong or it's all publicity for Brothers.
And only time will tell, won't it?
Special, I'm done. You don't have to apologize for nothing. I'm proud of you for sticking to your guns and saying so & speaking up. Sometimes one has to do it.
Now I entertained it too long and in the process drained myself. You would think I would learn.
But I'm done. It's so futile, pointless, nonproductive, and only escalating. It's time to draw the shade.
Destiny, I hope you have a productive time. Be careful and yeah, wouldn't you know all of this happens when you don't have the time you would like.
It will be interesting to hear what Ted has to say about it.
Disney needs a straight hero, they are almost pathological when it comes to their closeted gay stars.
You just have to read that pr release, I mean NYDN story, to see that. It implies they needed Reeke to. Promote it.In light of that, the People thing really does not make sense.
Sorry for all the typos. I hate texting.
lol, that pr release.
Well, I will sign off for the night. I have one more strand of lights I want to get up.
Well, Tiger is stealing the headlines today on People.com. Stole them right out from under Reeke. So if it was a PR ploy, they got upended by Tiger. lol.
Although they are the 3rd top story being hit on there. But their stay at the top waa shortlived.
I'm hoping tr visits maybe tomorrow?
I am back to my lights and then back to my emails. Sweet dreams, sayanara, buenos noches, au revoir, and all that.
The one thing I think maybe didn't pick up on in the NY Daily News article is right in the headline "Acting A-lister and local man about town" it makes it sound like Jake has made NYC his home base or is making it is his home base. Austin has talked about how much he loves NYC, and Jake in the City is always great fit. Wonder if going to LA is just going to be strictly for business for a while.
PG: i finally got to see the 06 awards pic. that is a very interesting situation he's got going on in his pants. it's almost as telling as the look on his face... he's really working the whole bedroom eyes and lips thing. makes me sad.
thanks for finding it for me. you're the best. s.
PG needs a man said...
Prairiegirl lol, Jake has an erection on those pics??? Get laid girl, would you, it would help clarify ahem ... a few things ...
Yeah he does have one, its easily seen in the pic, I don't know if Ledger cause it but you can't dispute Jake's jovial mood when in pics with other people such as Heath, Natalie, Mike etc as oppose to his "do I have to be here" pics taken with Reese. But why did Jake and Reese not spend the family holiday together since you has the kids. makes you wonder. Filming is over in Pitts and by the way Anne lives in New York, where Jake has been glued.
I think the trolls are in a tizzy because the break up might mean Jake is thinking about coming out again. Not out of the realm of possibility. Do we know if Austin was back in the US in time for the thanksgiving weekend.
I forgot to mention that I saw the POP trailer on the ultimate trailer show. I like R Wolinsky, the host. He was a very thoughtful interviewer when he had his own show. He did not seem impressed by the trailer, nor was I. Seeing it on the big screen, in hi-def made the cgi look obvious and I could really hear that it was mainly not Jake's voice with our good sound system.
I cant wait to see if Ted addresses the break up story this week. I'm betting he will have a good time with it.
Austin's USO tour officially finished up (Wed)Nov 25th. Looking at the itinerary of the tour it looked like the travel over on the 19th, did Germany 20-21st, Turkey 23-24th, and traveled home on the 25th. Where Austin was when he got home no one knows, because OTH was on a break until this week. Hmmmm... Where's Jake again? ; )
ted will have to be really careful not to out Toothy if he addresses this, but it's really too good to pass up. i bet he will have fun with this adventure.
s.
Special K said...
I haven't led by the best example today and I must apologize for that.
Oh yeah you have. I have been waiting for this for a long time. I love it that are going for it.
It will be interesting to see what
Ted says and his reaction to this
story! It also makes you wonder
about Austin's reaction. It may even start Austin to start drinking
again! I hope not. From now on, it
will be "Are they off/on again?"
or marriage rumors from these two!!
The CAA lackeys have been out in force spamming the JiG blogs to counteract the prematurely released news (but soon to be fact) that it's over.
Reese blew a gasket, and her spokesholes were forced to come in off holidays and clear the mess up. Jake didn't even know what she was going to do - she controls the show ;)
Bullshit. Jake would not allow this shit to happen the week his movie was about to open. Besides "Grapevine", Jake's rep. was the first one to deny it to Marc Mailkin at E, it wasn't Reese's rep.
Unless you are implying that their reps fed the story to People and that's why they went with it, they can't reveal that it was their PR since People is a PRwhore magazine.
Does mke them look stupid.
Plant a fake story and deny it.
Two Words....
Chris Fisher
If J&R are offically over, it won't be long before we see Jake based in NYC and Chris Fisher hanging with his BUDDY once again.
Chris has been keeping a low profile on MV for the last year.
I concluded that grapevine was implying that they thought Reese's rep leaked the story first, not both of their reps.
Am I right, grapevine?
Well, kind of interesting to see the aftermatch. Nothing hit more major news sites that I took a gander at anyway.
Same old, you make a good point re Jake. I thought for awhile that it could have been a joint mktg. effort but something like this would seem more like a distraction from the movie and a star would not want that on opening weekend. They want the focus to be on the movie, not their personal life. Plus, then it really would be conversation fodder for the talk shows, which would put Jake in an even more precarious position.
BTW, has anyone heard any mention of Jake being on any talk shows this week? That's kind of odd, isn't it?
Off subject, but I was reading on US Reekly's site that New Moon had a 70% drop in ticket sales this second weekend versus last opening weekend. It doesn't take away their humongous $$$ from opening weekend but it's one of the biggest drops ever for a movie. I wonder if it's because it's a sequel and everyone who wanted to see it, saw it last weekend in droves.
Does anyone think that JG had anything going with Chris Fischer...maybe before Austin??
Hey Kacieeee! In the midst of all that nonsense last night I am sorry to have missed you. I'm sorry. Sorry to hear about the pneumonia, too, but glad you are on the mend? You have had a rough year, Kace. I have a hug for you right here.
Sienna, your comment on the DGA picture cracked me up.
And now I must get ready for work. I kind of snoozed past my alarm so I did not get to walk - my own fault! I set my alarm wrong and that buzzer thing came on instead of the radio. I even had my walking stick right by the door this time - man, was I ready. Everything ready but the girl.
Does anyone think that JG had anything going with Chris Fischer...maybe before Austin??
Yes, some people think that Chris is gay (after watching his videos) and that he was Jake's friend with benefits.
^Thanks...I have watched his vids and he does give off a vibe. He's quite hawt
Where's TR????? Can't wait to hear her/his take on this.
Who is TR ?
Of course it's Chris Fisher for you, PassingBy. Anyone but Austin, right?
Who is TR ?
Who wants to know?
Had a curious thought when I woke up this morning. Do you think that Reese did this so that Jake would have to come back and be seen with her again?
Their "official" last picture was Sept.3 in LA, that yogurt picture, where the mood didn't look the happiest. Remember kidding about how she scooped the kids up straight from school and popped up where Jake was going to be? Clearly there were other people (small ones?) Jake was buying yogurt for either that or he wanted a lot of yogurt and seeing he was in his "fighting" movie weight doubt that.
Now we've heard about Reese showing up in NY a few weekends but there were no pictures released. We've read about a trip to Pittsburgh but no pictures either. Makes you wonder why? Who wouldn't allow the release of pictures (NY Maggie?) or if there really was a trip to Pittsburgh.
But clearly for 3 months there wasn't one picture together. That doesn't seem like something Reese would be too thrilled about. And really how many pictures of her out and shopping by herself were getting picked up by mags and sites? Two stars always sell better than one.
So how do you make sure there's not another month that goes by without a picture together. Well do something that ensures that you have to have pictures together. What do celebrities have to do when there are breakup rumors They have to be pictured together?
BINGO!
Can't log in so I'll use the name Oracle-
The breakup story would not have shown up without a big green light from their reps. So why the quick denial?
So they can do a "Jake and Reese more in love than ever after break-up rumors" and get more publicity for both of them?
Jake's PR planted a fake story to get publicity for Brothers?
Reese's PR planted a fake story to make Reese and Reeke part of Brothers publicity?
Hello all OMG fellows,
Don't know how to start but in first I would say I feel a bit stupid to be back after a so long absence like this one. I missed the blog very very much and I was sure anyways I would need to be back to us.
Well it's delicate but personal issues keep me away from internet what was, after thoughts, better for me. When your mind isn't very well, you aren't in mood for lighter distractions so...
The positive side it's the pleasure to discover all I have missed LOL and there are a lot lot of news, some good, some less good!
I am a bit annoyed to do my come back in the middle of a "battle" but I couldn't wait anylonger lol.
I hope everyone is fine. I haven't read all the previous posts, I just saw what happened to you Prairie Girl and I can't find the words but my thoughts are with you and your family.
In a lighter note, I am really really really waiting for Brothers release despite the sadness of the subject and it possible effect on my mind, but I take the risk. I have to read all the articles, reviews,interviews... so much in perpective. And about the new movie with anne too ....
I thought of you Special K cause I recently saw Harold and Maud! Great great movie, moving, full of hope and which make you think about your own life! Everybody should follow Maud's precepts.
Here is, it's all for now. I just too happy to see again your little team more alive than ever!!!
PS : I understand nothing about the current debate : People PR ,People not PR, LOL I need deep explication.
transparent said...
Of course it's Chris Fisher for you, PassingBy. Anyone but Austin, right?
^^ What is your PROBLEM?
There is nothing Wrong with someone thinking that Jake and Chris could have been more than friends. I am one who thinks this also. I also think Jake and Austin had something in the past.
Are you 10 yrs old and only thinks a man that you obviously thinks is totally gay can and would only be locked in a realationship and have/had no other experiences with others. Or are you so overly romantic about J/A that you can't see the forest for the trees?
Please get a Clue and grow up.
(If) JG friendship with Chris was more, it does not mean he did not have something with AN.
sheeeeshhhh! Really exhausting!!!
^^Go back to Babbleville trolly
I always thought he had something going on with Chris F. During the time that i paid attn to him, which was from summer 06 up to now, his most regular pre-Reese companion seemed to be Chris.
Spesh... that is a very curious and interesting thought you had about Reese's PR "accidentally" releasing that info to force Jake's hand.
However, the other option, imho, is that this is just the way they decided to start the ball rolling. Release the news prematurely, deny it, gauge the fall out and then figure out how they are going to spin it out. Whose fault is it or why or what to say, etc. It's kinda how they started, right? Rumors they were together, followed by assertations by reps that they weren't, etc.
The only hole i can see in my theory is the timing. It doesn't seem like this is a good time for Jake to be running around with distracting news over his head. It will make it even more obvious if the interviewers don't ask him questions about them, and after hearing him talk about his movies, i don't really know if they want him to try to start talking about THIS particular bit of fiction. Can you imagine the gyllenbabble that might come out of that attempt???
However, if she really is the vindictive media slave that some folks think - i'm still on the fence about this issue - then maybe she popped early, hoping to get to steal some of his thunder and the advantage if possibly he hasn't been playing nice the last few weeks. Maybe he's even taken a stand and ended it early. Wouldn't that be nice for him?
S.
Nothing wrong with speculating about Chris & Jake but transparent just pointed out the fact that pre Reeke, trolls had a field day going on and on about how it had to be Chris not Austin who is with Jake. Anyone but Austin!
It's annoying to go through the same motions over and over and over.
There is nothing Wrong with someone thinking that Jake and Chris could have been more than friends. I am one who thinks this also. I also think Jake and Austin had something in the past.
Why am I not surprised that you used to think Jake dated Chris at one point, Former TB. Nice new name btw, or should I factor in your other posts in the last few days and say names?
We all know by now (from your infinite knowledge) that Jake used to be gay. I'm not terribly surprised that when he was gay, it was with many people. That way explaining away the all the time that J&A have been seen together as just friends after a hook-up is so much easier.
But he's straight now, right? Or at least bi, not gay, never!
Maybe you should say it one more time, there might be someone in Siberia that hasn't heard your words of knowledge yet.
reading the last few comments, i see that some folks have issues with the idea of J&C together. hmm. i didn't know that and wasn't trying to inflame anyone with my comment, but since it's out there, i will say that back in the early days - when i wanted to be with heath but he obviously wasn't - of the 2 folks mentioned as his lover, i always thought it was CF, bcuz of the pics i saw of them together, and cuz CF seemed to go with him as a guy date to lots of things.
s.
But he's straight now, right? Or at least bi, not gay, never!
Maybe you should say it one more time, there might be someone in Siberia that hasn't heard your words of knowledge yet.
^^ What your problen is, is you want to gay politically correct. All things gay. You seem to be threatened if your gay assumptions are challenged and you go hay wire or beserk.
I could careless what Jake's true sexuality is, but I have my thoughts and I speak them, just as you do, and loudly I must say. It's you who run to the defense to Keep Jake gay in your mind and you will hold the book over your head and swing the gavel and yell it to everyone. (Jake is gay I tell you) We all know your MO.
(Said, LOL, and whatever other name YOU choose to use.)
Yet another name my Ass!
Pot calling the kettle black.
But he's straight now, right? Or at least bi, not gay, never!
Maybe you should say it one more time, there might be someone in Siberia that hasn't heard your words of knowledge yet.
^^ What your problen is, is you want to gay politically correct. All things gay. You seem to be threatened if your gay assumptions are challenged and you go hay wire or beserk.
I could careless what Jake's true sexuality is, but I have my thoughts and I speak them, just as you do, and loudly I must say. It's you who run to the defense to Keep Jake gay in your mind and you will hold the book over your head and swing the gavel and yell it to everyone. (Jake is gay I tell you) We all know your MO.
(Said, LOL, and whatever other name YOU choose to use.)
Yet another name my Ass!
Pot calling the kettle black.
The story is that Chris was the teenage boyfriend, then Matt Katz, then Austin. Probably others in between, but those were/are the key relationships.
The guy has no "just friends" then ?
m... thanks for the background. even tho i've been interested in J for 3 yrs now, i'm still learning new stuff all the time. i liked him with Chris, and i wouldn't be sad to see them palling around together.
honestly, i'll be happy to see him with anyone other than reese. anne would even be a giant improvement.
s.
Anne is great yes.
other great review.
"http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2009/11/review-brothers-harrowing-post-war.html :
"If it all sounds forcibly dramatic, it's not. Benioff's script is brilliantly methodical, and it's the surprisingly strong performances from the cast that give the film a truly resonant tone. Tobey Maguire has the flashiest performance, and no doubt its one that will be recognized come awards time as his lean frame, shaved head and Travis Bickle-channelling performance utterly smashes his image as the squeaky voiced Peter Parker. However, Jake Gyllenhaal arguably has the toughest role of the bunch having to believably shift from a good-for-nothing ex-con to a reliable family man. But not only does Gyllenhaal do it, but he knocks it out of the park. In the early stasges of the film, his charming asshole routine is largely lived through his dancing eyes and a perma-smirk etched onto his stubbled face. But when Sam is declared dead, the eyes and smirk are still there but become softer and his attitude, though still somewhat immature, is slowly shaded by the weight of responsibility. It's a great performace."
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