Ed. note: Sorry for the delay. It's been a bad bad bad bad blogger day.
Couple things more things about Lotus.
You've seen this picture before
But look at this picture of Austin at the Wrap Party for Full Count/Lenexa 1 Mile down at a Westport bar in KC.
Notice anything?
And there was someone else who was at Club Lotus that night. And it is significant in this toothsome tale.
Yes Maggie was there that night as well.
So not only was Jake out with Austin so soon after meeting, but obviously Jake had introduced Austin to his sister. Looks like she knew from the beginning what her brother had found and who he had found it with, that's pretty significant. Just another little thing that shows that this was serious right from the beginning.
And it also makes you look at the timeline with a different perspective.
May 2002 Austin Graduates from USC
June 26 2002 Club Lotus Party - Jake, Austin and Maggie attend
July 17 2002 Jake in final negotiations to be cast in TDAT
July 21 2002 Announced. Maggie to film Mona Lisa Smile with Kirsten Dunst
Sept 18 2002 Jake and Kirsten start dating after being introduce by his sister Maggie at the after party for the premiere of Secretary
Oct 4, 2002 - Jan 2003 Mona Lisa Smile in production
November 7, 2002 - March 2003 TDAT in production
March 2003 Report that Jake is "so smitten" with Kiki he's desperate to marry her
Hmmmm.
Just waiting for Austin to tweet about these. ; )
Thanks again to everyone who helped with making this post possible.
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@adamlevine your music is playin in my gym. Got me all pumped up. (Or romanced up) Love you tender
about 5 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
"Just another little thing that shows that this was serious right from the beginning."
Just cause he presented austin to his sister?
I thought austin and jake have known since hight school ( from austin words)
See you are ignoring the whole issue of the timeline. AGAIN.
Sorry blue eyes, Austin didn't say that but the press release back in April 2006 said they had been friends since high school.(which was false)
ok thanks specialK
I can't decide for this period, I think jake was unsure about his feelings. I really think ( just my opinion) he had a thing for kiki and feeled attraction for austin in same time and austin won at the end. It should have been a hard time for him.
Prairiegirl said...Of course since Ramona was born, he's been an uncle. When she was born, Jake wasn't an uncle for one year, then he took a sabbatical for three months. Then, Oh hey, I think I'll be an uncle again. Then he's an uncle again. That's not something he could have been before her birth. When she was born, he became an uncle because that's what you call it! When one's sister or brother has a child, that person automatically becomes an uncle or an aunt, whether one wants to or not, lol.
But if he ever gives Ramona a whistle and a drum, he's going to be her full time caretaker...at least until they get "misplaced."
I don't know many people who introduce someone they have know for a little over a month to their family. Usually you wait a little while before you spring the family on them.
I don't call attending some industry party introducing them to your family. Sounds more like Jake and Maggie were invited to the party, most likely it wasn't to introduce anyone, methinks that would have been done in private.
Jake used to attend these types of events often early on, not so much now, same with Maggie and if searched I bet you can find pics of her and Jake together at these events.
Most likely they were just freinds at this point IMO
The point I made was, Maggie knew about Jake and Austin in June and she introduced Jake to Kiki AFTER she knew about them (J&A) and had spent time with them.
Dear dear Special, pray tell how you know Jake and Austin were anything more than just friends back then? Were you moonlighting as both their hearts and minds? Inquiring minds...
Dear dear ??, pray tell how you know Jake and Austin were just friends back then? Were you moonlighting as both their hearts and minds? Inquiring minds...
Oh you know what's really interesting about those two pics you posted? The pic where Austin is purported to be in the background? That's not him. It wasn't clear to me until you posted both those pics as if to compare. That right ear is waaaaay off from being Austin's right ear. Have also done some comparison shopping of my own. Yep. Not him.
So ya got nuthin, huh Special? Good comeback. And by good I mean lame.
Oh you know what's really interesting about those two pics you posted? The pic where Austin is purported to be in the background? That's not him. It wasn't clear to me until you posted both those pics as if to compare. That right ear is waaaaay off from being Austin's right ear. Have also done some comparison shopping of my own. Yep. Not him.
You did picture comparisons, but only now with one quick glance at a pic Special posted it became clear to you? Wow, you must have some amazing shopping skills!
Who is the guy (that Jake was pressed up against earlier - see Specials other post about this) then? Wait, let me guess, sitting on bench work-out buddy, right?
So ya got nuthin, huh Special? Good comeback. And by good I mean lame.
She just posted the exact same thing you did. Are you saying that your post was lame? Cause yeah, I agree.
Daddy's found a replacement for us ...and he has a pony. *cries*
Austin Collie
It's not Austin in the background in the first pic. If you look at the profile in the first pic you can see the guy has the beginning dip of a sideburn. If you look at the second pic, you can see Austin's profile and see that his sideburn is shaved all the way up.
LOL which guy in the white shirt in pic #2 is Austin, the guy on the left or the guy with his back to the camera?
So ya got nuthin, huh ...
Sal Maroni, is that you again? :)
Well, not only is that Austin's ear, but it's his cheekbone, chin, height, and signature body language (notice the way both pictures show his casual way of resting his hand on the other person's back.) Hands are the same too. With that photo anaylsis concluded, the fact Maggie was at the same party is significant. It shows she knew Jake was with Austin as early as June 2002, yet somehow she sets him up with Kirsten on September 18, 2002. Now, considering Maggie knows her brother is gay, I always found that bit of news rather interesting. With a blockbuster movie on the way, and a truckload of publicity anticipated, it was time to get little brother mainstreamed.
Lets see, Kirsten starts filming Mona Lisa Smile on October 4, 2002 and Jake starts filming TDAT on November 7, 2002 with production ending in March 2003. Yet, somehow Jake has grown so smitten with Kirsten that tabloids announce he's desperate to marry her. Of course, we then get the inevitable engagement rumors, shopping and working out at the gym photo ops, public piggyback ride, promise ring exchange, cat gift, dog adoption, undying love proclamations, wild sex stories over a July 4th weekend, hot action in dressing rooms and cars, and most importantly the inevitable girlfriend generated breakup in July 2004. Naturally, followed by the conveniently ambiguous on/off relationship scenario. Whew! Oh, and let's not forget how the "romance" heated up again in June-August 2005 because of a certain parking lot public sex arrest between Toothy Tile and his BF. Now we have to kick it up a notch so we get stories about prenatal vitamins and rumors swirling about a pending pregnancy.
Of course, Austin can't be left out of the fun with his bearding activities so we suddenly learn that he supposedly has a bitter break-up with his "girlfriend," Claire, sometime between September-December 2004. Even though we see both him and Claire attending the Vanity Fair Oscar Party on February 27, 2005, with Jake. The official version, however, never changes. Claire and Austin had a bitter parting after seven years together at the end of 2004. So bitter that Austin slept in cars and had to stay with "friends." So both men breakup with their beards in 2004 and begin to be seen together soon thereafter (e.g. Casanova premiere). Oh, and let's not forget that we learn in early October, 2005 that Jake has decided to get engaged with himself. An awkward explanation for that black diamond ring he begins to sport in early May, 2005.
Of course, all of this was surely just a sequence of coincidences, but as any good Hollywood director will tell you, there are no coincidences in Tinseltown.
I know it is sometimes hard to explain having a neice that is older than you PG. Actually all my neices and nephews are my age. When my folks first got married it was boom boom boom boom and then over 20 yrs later BOOM!
That is definetly Austin in both pics. No doubt in my mind.
Closer Look. Hello?? The Lotus picture was taken in 2002. And the second picture was taken in 2006. And Austin's hair in the second picture was cut for the Lenexa 1 Mile move. that the wrap party was for. And the haircut was to look like it was in the 80's the time period when the movie took place.
How sweet it is SK.
Special, the way I read your post, it implies that both pictures are from the same party. I didn't see any dates with them. If the pictures are from different years, then that explains the difference is hair. I made an observation based on what I thought.
The ears are totally different. Ears don't lie.
Btw: I love the Austin manhole imagery. The message certainly fits the "romanced up" talents of a certain tall Texan. Possibly not very "sanitary," but bet he can get down and dirty for sure.
I think you're right, 11:26. This reminds me of that photo of Jake outside the Staples Center & U2 and the guy behind Jake that Special keeps trying to convince is Austin. I have no horse in this race but I've seen enough photos of Jake and Austin and Jake and Chris to know the guy behind Jake is NOT Austin. As you said, the ears don't lie. Or in this case the ear, the right ear, lol.
Special, the way I read your post, it implies that both pictures are from the same party.
This is what Special posted (emphasis mine):
Couple things more things about Lotus.
You've seen this picture before
(first picture)
But look at this picture of Austin at the Wrap Party for Full Count/Lenexa 1 Mile down at a Westport bar in KC.
(second picture)
How would you get out of this that it was the same party? Don't blame Special for not reading the post.
Sides, you could have always asked before hopping in to say how Special is oh so wrong.
Then you might have even found out that almost everyone here already knows the picture of Austin at the wrap party and Specials explaining where it came from wouldn't even have been necessary.
That is definitely Austin's ear and his hand. It's one thing not to believe Austin is gay, it's another thing to say that Austin doesn't even exist.
The hands look the same too me. However, i am still not convinced Kiki was a complete beard ala Reese
Never thought about it before, but interesting about the timing with TDAT. So looks like we have pattern of playing up relationships real or not, for tentpole movies. So that seems like further evidence it is all about the career and hiding the gay, not hiding BT.
I think you're right, 11:26. This reminds me of that photo of Jake outside the Staples Center & U2 and the guy behind Jake that Special keeps trying to convince is Austin. I have no horse in this race but I've seen enough photos of Jake and Austin and Jake and Chris to know the guy behind Jake is NOT Austin. As you said, the ears don't lie. Or in this case the ear, the right ear, lol.
So, who do YOU think Staples guy is? Let me guess... Chris, right?
Well, I gotta say Chris sure can make himself magically grow when he needs t0.
No wait, I know, I know, he stole Tom Cruises shoes and those sneakers are really hidden heels!
Also gotta say, you really do have an amazing eye.
Why, you're actually able to see the guys ear in the picture! Amazing!
In all seriousness, is this the new gameplan? Going through every maybe-Austin picture one-by-one claiming it's not him and making an ass out of yourselves?
Cause it's kinda working. Actually, scratch the kinda.
Two other things. I thought Austin broke up with Claire in 2005--the interview he gave on that I thought was in 2006??
Regarding KIKI and the prenatal vitamins, I seem to recall there was a lot of chatter about it being drug related--apparently used by lot of heroin users. So the pregnancy chatter may have been as much about covering that up.
Jake is career-minded like anyone who is a professional, but I think the TDAT bearding was related to him knowing he was going to be scrutinized by the press because of a blockbuster role.
No, Austin and Claire allegedly broke up in 2004 sometime between September 13th and December of that year because there is a picture of them together at the Wimbledon premiere. Austin also indicated that they were together for seven years and they supposedly starting dating when he was in high school in 1997.
Destiny, the prenatal vitamins probably were related to Kirsten's drug use, but the tabloid press was that she might be pregnant. Which, obviously, benefited the image of Jake the stud.
Nice work to who all and whoever assisted Special in putting it all together. This is what helps me, I know that, and that is to look at the time lines.
This is what makes J&A's relationship stand out. That they have been together for as long as long as they have. In Hollywood, no less. No, you don't decide on a whim to have a child through surrogacy. These guys had known each other and been together for four years before they made a commitment and started the process of starting a family via a surrogate mother.
And this decision would have started taking action sometime in 2005 maybe? Early 2006 because BT1 conceived in Feb 2006, born in Oct 2007. Who knows how long the actual process takes of even starting - I don't remember if they actually said in that Tony & Gary documentary.
Ted's infamous Jake's Digital Dance with BFF who looks an awful lot like Austin occurring in Oct 2007. LOL - AustinLookAlikeGuy. lol.
Hey, you guys know what? Looking back at some of the blogs when they were talking about the Digital Dance write up by Ted and some of the news items on Jake around this time (Oct. 2007), re: Rendition debut and Rome. Guess what Jake has?????
A real thick beard. I wonder how long he had that thing in 2006?
I do think however that Jake ran back to Kiki after the parking lot scare.
Regarding Maggie, personally there is not enough for me to form any opinion, too many of the factors have multiple possibilities.
So that seems like further evidence it is all about the career and hiding the gay, not hiding BT.
I would say that Jake's bearding is about both. He wants to hide his sexual orientation and his baby.
Hey Tom, guess who the Chiefs are playing this coming Friday night? The Eagles!!
I don't even remember any of the game tonight. I remember more about the pizza we had, LOL.
LOL! I think you meant that BT1 was conceived in January 2007 (not 2006), and born in Oct 2007. Please don't start the rumor that Jake had a baby elephant! *grin*
Regarding Maggie, personally there is not enough for me to form any opinion, too many of the factors have multiple possibilities.
Let's just say, it's awfully convenient that Jake's sister is the one who hooks him up with KiKi. She knows, after all, that Jake is gay. The timing is more than a little suspicious.
What a bunch of moonbats. Please keep the lolz coming.
Ah, yes another, dismissive comment. Name calling is always a good alternative to actually having to use your brain. That is if you have one.
Oh yeah, lol. I said Jan 2006. I meant Jan 2007. So process started in 2006. I thought 2005 didn't really sound right - it sounded rather early.
Destiny, I don't understand why it always has to be about Jake being all wrapped up in his career. If that was the case, I would think he'd be bearding already with a high profile young lady to prepare for that LAOD promotion tour. Because he kind of needs a box office hit right now.
But he did not follow through with the hints about Isabel Lucas, Rachel McAdams and Olivia Munn. One has to wonder why on earth he is still wandering this earth Ridin' Solo? It's been about 7 1/2 months since the break up of Reeke. I'm going to give him credit for Ridin' Solo so far, regardless of what Austin's doing with ol Soapy. Because I'm sure his people have a full dance card for him just waiting.
Well, off to bed. I am tired!
What?! I missed this so Daddy could go on a trip? Bastard.
all-you-can-eat
*cries*
"Let's just say, it's awfully convenient that Jake's sister is the one who hooks him up with KiKi. She knows, after all, that Jake is gay. The timing is more than a little suspicious."
maybe but the pics with kiki are telling in my opinion. Unlike Reese with whom he never had chemistry and never looked affectionate.he was with kirsten. They were natural and really cute. It's the reson why I am sure he had a thing for her.
Again: which guy in the white shirt in pic #2 is Austin, the guy on the left or the guy with his back to the camera? Please answer because I can't tell which one is Austin. Thanks.
which guy in the white shirt
^^It's both of them. The haus fraus would spin whatever fits their sad little made-up world
Name calling is always a good alternative to actually having to use your brain.
Not using your brain is believing everything that Ted says
"Not using your brain is believing everything that Ted says"
Teddy uses to forget some little tiny things sometimes.
For instance his last BV was really revealing if you forgive the omission that Harland and "his beard" are going to have a babe( for real).
In all seriousness, is this the new gameplan? Going through every maybe-Austin picture one-by-one claiming it's not him and making an ass out of yourselves?
COMEDY GOLD!! You just described what the jaustinuts do with every picture - scanning it for fingers and ears, and rings LOL in some desperate attempt to link J&A together. Who is the ass now?
Let's see. Here's our troll tally of dismissive, ridiculing and contemptous comebacks so far:
No Austin in Jake's Life. Nope can’t be him. Not his ear. Not his sideburns. Not his hand. Not his hair. (That’s right. If Austin doesn’t exist, then there can be no Jake and Austin. )
Jake is bisexual. Jake was truly “in” to Kirsten. Had chemistry, seemed to be legit...just a pair of star-crossed lovers. (Heaven forbid Jake be gay).
Name calling. (Tried and True) Delusional allegations, scornful contempt. Application of misogynist and homophobic personal attacks on bloggers. (Because direct and indirect evidence and the reliance on rational thought is a pesky thing)
Canon Shippers. Ted drink the kool-aid aspersions. Never give an inch. Disparage by minimizing and castigating all points of view that conflict with agenda. Suggest that OMGers are merely robots, towing the Ted party line. (Trolls can't stand original, thoughtful research)
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